It is a sad day 
LD Di
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When hate, hysteria, and seemingly willful misunderstandings and misinterpretations rule Curezone.
Perhaps best if each of us re-examines ourselves regarding what we have lent to this mess, then change our own course??
All this finger-pointing and blaming is a bad idea, no matter who initially might have started it and no matter who is now doing most of it.
Can't we just stop this and treat each other with a modicum of respect???
Can't we make some attempt to be slow to anger and take offence???
If we do not, I fear for the whole of Curezone. I certainly would no longer refer anyone here!!!
Who will the mob target next?
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- Re: It is a sad day Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,495,881
Who will the mob target next?
I don't know. Who else is giving out bogus and dangerous advice resulting in the injury of people? Then ranting and raving against anyone posting these injuries to chase them away?
- Re: It is a sad day spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,495,885"When hate, hysteria, and seemingly willful misunderstandings and misinterpretations rule Curezone."
The only hate, hysteria and actual lies came from the person that has now been banned. Trying to get others to take the blame for this persons failings is disrespectful to the many people this person has harmed, demeaned, patronised and lied about.
I don't believe there is a 'mob', and to label people in this way is also disrespectful to the people who have spent a lot of time and effort defending those who have been misstreated by the person that has now been banned. Standing up for what is right and just, in how people are treated, is not hate or hysteria, it is a good and proper thing to do.
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- Re: It is a sad day spudlydoo
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- Re: It is a sad day grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,495,881>>"Who will the mob target next?"<<
the mob rules... and apparently, there are moderators on the mob's side.
What is up with "refreshed's" banning?
That is most confusing.
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- Re: It is a sad day wuzwad
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This is a reply to # 1,495,899grz
did refreshed get banned because she posted the first response here from Morless?
I too am baffled by it.
wuz- Re: It is a sad day mu-shen
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This is a reply to # 1,495,910So?? - has Refreshed been "silenced" as well by the democratic mob on HateZone?..... or am I starting to loose it and getting hysterical as well???
Yes Di - ´tis a sad day. I tried to stay out of this whole mess - but that too may have been a mistake. Guess the ones who scream the loudest are the ones that get heard here. Especially if you want to be a part of the "gang" and accepted by them.
Sad day and sad place.
- Re: It is a sad day mu-shen
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- Re: It is a sad day wuzwad
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! Donn
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This is a reply to # 1,495,881When all this dies down there will be a lot of peace and harmony on curezone.
One person is capable of stirring up disharmony amongst many.
Pitting one against another.
This is clear with whats been pouring out since the eviction.
Sometimes these things have to run their course.
But the real positive is that the source has been removed and no longer in a position to cause continuing disharmony.- Re: It's not a sad day!! grzbear
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,495,905>>"But the real positive is that the source has been removed and no longer in a position to cause continuing disharmony."<<
Are you sure about that?
My experience has been that even though ML made himself a very viable target, and perhaps in some cases deservedly so, he also experienced many who delighted in provoking him... people like this will find another punching bag at some point.
They have been here all along, before ML and will be here well after he is gone... if that is what comes to be.
Who will it be next?
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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This is a reply to # 1,495,911Grz, why don't you do as others have asked, move on and start your own forum?
Everyone has the greatest respect for you my friend, please let go for it's not you that's insulted other members, why stand up for those who have?- Re: It's not a sad day!! grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,495,928>>"Grz, why don't you do as others have asked, move on and start your own forum?"<<
The time commitment... is what holds me back more than anything else.
>>"Everyone has the greatest respect for you my friend, please let go for it's not you that's insulted other members, why stand up for those who have?"<<
Thank you... I hope I am standing up for those on both sides of the fence.
While ML, and some in his forum may be insulting to others, I have seen the degradation of such behavior clearly on both sides of the fence... one, fueling the other.
No one is without sin here... we have all thrown stones.
Take away the fuel and/or the air/oxygen and the fire burns out.
In time, if ML is not reinstated here, this will be so... one half of the requirements for the flame/fire being gone.
If the forum goes on... I am sure it will continue to take pot shots, whether the behavior is civil or not.
Just as an aside... history has shown that those being persecuted (slavery, religious history, science, etc.) were most often times in the right... whether the way they went about expressing their views was correct or not is another, and perhaps more pertinent point of contention.
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,495,938I've heard many criminals cry persecution, does that mean they are right??
There are also many incidents throughout history, where the ones crying persecution were wrong.
Comparing MLs woes, to any of the people throughout history, who have been wrongly persecuted, is a poor analogy. His problems are entirely brought on by his own behaviour, what a pity that there are so many willing to absolve him from taking personal responsibility for his own actions.
spud
- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,495,954I can assure you that I'm not barking at any trees, merely giving an opinion. Just as you yourself are doing.
spud- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,495,958Do you have a point to make, or are you just being childish? That sort of comment is best taken to the Debate Forums where it will be in good company.
spud- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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This is a reply to # 1,495,971Yes it's my childish sense of humor Spud.
Your condescending attitude is obnoxious, if you want to fight go elsewhere and leave well alone, like I said "Your barking up the wrong tree", WOOF! OK?- Re: It's not a sad day!! spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,495,982Posting my point of view is neither condescending or obnoxious, unless you choose to see it that way, then that is your responsibility. You seem to be the one wanting to fight, I'm quite happy to have a simple discussion. You wish peace and then accuse, confusing.
spud- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! spudlydoo
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! The Hunter
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! spudlydoo
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- Re: It's not a sad day!! Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,495,948
I've heard many criminals cry persecution, does that mean they are right??
There are also many incidents throughout history, where the ones crying persecution were wrong.
Comparing MLs woes, to any of the people throughout history, who have been wrongly persecuted, is a poor analogy. His problems are entirely brought on by his own behaviour, what a pity that there are so many willing to absolve him from taking personal responsibility for his own actions.
spudSo well put, I totally agree. ML and his followers have been complaining of being persecuted all along, but they are the ones that relentlessly attack others even when they are being ignored. So they keep provoking the confrontations.
- Re: It's not a sad day!! grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,495,948I stated that ... "While ML, and some in his forum may be insulting to others, I have seen the degradation of such behavior clearly on both sides of the fence... one, fueling the other."
So my statement that, "Just as an aside... history has shown that those being persecuted (slavery, religious history, science, etc.) were most often times in the right... whether the way they went about expressing their views was correct or not is another, and perhaps more pertinent point of contention."
Was a " standing up for those on both sides of the fence" in regard to this issue.
I think you may have misunderstood my intent.
there are several different perspectives on this... and I have witnessed it since well before I started posting here...
In many ways, other's inappropriate behavior towards him, has created moreless... think about that a bit. We all should.
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