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Rare Side Effect Is Seen in Long-Term Use of a Breast Cancer Drug
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/health/research/26cancer.html?_r=2
What is interesting is that Tamoxifen has been linked to other cancers as well, psychoses and blindness. Yet they never seem to tell people this when given this dangerous drug.
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Good Morning Hv,
Okay so what are the chances for the need for this drug, or one like it if unopposed estrogen gets to run around unopposed from lack of restraint due to adrenal dysfunction?
What if breast is used for rightful purpose with four babies, and family members have not had mastectomies, and add the lack of interference from birth control pills? On the other hand smoking, past drinking/drugging and fate factored in I am as subject to this as anyone, and once faced the horror of finding OMG "A LUMP" only to hear the diagnosis "bone spur on rib" too many long days later, and then "a LUMP" again OMG a few years later proved to be "normal breast tissue" cyclic and tender prior to every menstruation - not even worthy of a mamogram?!
I'm curious what my chances are because a tubal ligation (tubes removed-not tied, not cauterized) 21 years ago is about as radically gynecologically invasive as I have experienced or want to - and from this experience I learned just how much the body WILL TRY TO CORRECT ITSELF!!! Poor little egg trying desperately to GET THROUGH the newly created BARRIER of scar tissue every month, and of course I AM A SENSITIVE and can feel EVERY bit of this!!!
If Tamoxifen is what American Medicos and BIG PHARMA has for TREATMENT, as in SOLUTION for women with breast cancer, then I am so ashamed to be American and live in this country at this time. I am evermore convinced they are indeed trying to take us out, one breast at a time!
Again, I will never agree to their methods - would rather perish than succumb to the lie. I want to forward this information to EVERY WOMAN. UNfortunately too many see only GOD in their M.D.'s eyes, and have INSURANCE B.S. leaving them only one path and little recourse - I have none and WANT none.
How did things get to be so wrong here?
Rhetorically,
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This is a reply to # 1,479,855How did things get to be so wrong here?
Because the LOVE OF MONEY is the root of ALL EVIL.
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Interesting article regarding Tamoxifen. My Grandmother was given this medicine after she was diagnosed with Breast Cancer at the age of 69. She lived for 7 years after and died at the age of 76. I was young, but remember seeing her prescription for Tamoxifen, as I would routinely goto the pharmacy to pick up. The weird thing is that she died of uterine cancer, I wonder if Tamoxifen had anything to do with that?
She was a very healthy women, and all of sudden got sick..- Re: Rare Side Effect Is Seen in Long... HanSolo
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This is a reply to # 1,479,990Personally, I think everyone reading this, if they have the means should invest in an oxy fed ozone generator, and learn how to use it. I still probably have two or three years more to go before this protocol will have achieved it's full potential. I'm looking forward to that.
Put together Schulze's superfood formula. If you make it yourself, it works out to only 2 or 3 dollars a week as opposed to buying it pre made, which is probably closer to 10 to 12 dollars a week. Get the good fats like in wheat germ oil, flax seed oil, and a quality cod liver oil. Check out what is recommended on the Weston Price foundation website.
do yoga, tai chai, or some other form of eastern meditative exercise, and some sort of an aerobic exercise two or three times a week. Yoga and an aerobic exercise is a powerful combo for general good health.
Make water kefir. The physiological benefits of drinking 16 ounces a day of this alone are amazing.
put together a good endocrine formula,
and a formula for whatever other symptoms need immediate addressing such as hormone balancing, digestive bitters, etc...
as well as the basics like avoiding fast food, coffee, and most importantly staying away from the allopaths and the evening news telling you what disease to be watching out for next.
There are a lot of little steps one can take to ensure eventual perfect health, look young, and radiant, and be shielded from disease.
A few months ago, I was buying something I really should not be. I got carded, and the clerk asked me, after pondering a few moments, if I were some sort of a Dick Clark.... and wanted to know my secret.
A week or two ago, I was at the liquor store picking up some vodka to make a tincture. Got carded, the clerk looked at my license at said, "Oh, look at you, all grown up now." I'm not old, but I am well past the age to be getting routinely carded.
Anyhow, a year or so ago when I started putting all of this together I never got carded, looked somewhat okay for my age, but definitely did not young enough to be getting carded.
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What kind of ozone unit are you using? Hveragerthi, is a strong advocate of ozone as well. I am interested in purhcasing one. I read somewhere you can build your own unit, but I don't have the time or patience to.
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I have the longevity resources ext-120. It is their more expensive machine.
I'm not sure I would mess around with building one, because you have no idea what the ozone output is going to be. Some protocols require pretty low amounts.
It is sort of hard to explain the benefits. I've found ozone to be a very sharp bladed double edged sword. Because it is easy to get carried away with it, and do too much. You really have to be restrained and not go overboard with the treatments. It will not make things worse, in the big picture, but it will sure make you look like crap. I'm talking intravenous drug user, meth smoking tweaker, aids patient crap.
But, if you can limit your ozone steam saunas to just a couple times a week, that is the sweet spot. For me at least.
I've also read some conflicting information on making ozonated water. Some sources say to make it with the machine set on highest setting, with the oxygen set at the lowest because the water will only absorb an amount that is safe. And I've read that you should keep the gamma around 40. In practice I've found you can over ozonate the water, and it is best to keep the gamma around 40 or 50.
Then there is what is known as the ozone detox rash. This is all the junk in your fat and lymph system coming out the skin. It is nasty. Looks like a combination of eczema, psoriasis, chicken pox, and road rash all rolled into one.
This lasts for months. I'm through most of it, but still have a little bit coming out. You really have to keep your elimination channels in top shape. Herbs work great for this.
For awhile, the white towel I would sit on in steam sauna would be covered in black stains. I even took a picture of it one night because it was so bad I did not think later in the future I would believe what was coming out of me.
Overall, more energy, pains and aches have lessened, body feels lighter, more flexibility, not one cold or flu last winter when the entire office was pretty much laid up, and look a lot younger than when I started.
The ozone will eventually make its way into the bones, all of the organs of the body too, and regenerate those as well.
But the key is, the more nutrition you supply your body while doing this, and the better your waste elimination is, the better your regeneration will be.- Re: Rare Side Effect Is Seen in Long... Hveragerthi
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I'm not sure I would mess around with building one, because you have no idea what the ozone output is going to be. Some protocols require pretty low amounts.
There are pros and cons both ways. I pointed a few out in my last post. Another reason I prefer to build my own is that I design mine for a very low oxygen flow rate. I figured out that lowering the pressure to a tenth of a liter per minute that the flow rate is the same rate as the gas is infused. So you don't fill up the colon and wait uncomfortably for it to be absorbed. The first couple of treatments there is some bloating, but not after that. I did a treatment for 2 hours once as an experiment and there was no adverse effects. The body just saturates with the ozone so excess does not offer any extra benefit. Anyway, the filling the colon up thing never made sense to me anyway. If you think about how unstable ozone is, and the fact that it takes the ozone 20 minutes on average to completely absorb, which is above the half -life of the ozone you can see that most of the ozone is broken down long before it can absorb. This is why I prefer using the extremely low flow of ozone so fresh ozone is always being infused and absorbed at the same rate.
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I don't agree that the half life is only 20 minutes. At least not in a sealed environment.
And the reason I say that is because if I make ozonated water, empty the jar, and seal it up... even days later I can open it up and the smell of ozone is still pretty strong. Strong enough that if I were to breath it in, it would make me cough.- Re: Rare Side Effect Is Seen in Long... Hveragerthi
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I don't agree that the half life is only 20 minutes. At least not in a sealed environment.
And the reason I say that is because if I make ozonated water, empty the jar, and seal it up... even days later I can open it up and the smell of ozone is still pretty strong. Strong enough that if I were to breath it in, it would make me cough.Ozone has a very short half life. It is so reactive that it will even break itself down if it is in a sealed environment.
http://www.air-water-nutrition-healthsmart.com/public/ozone%20safety.htm
"The most important property of Ozone is that it has a very short life span. This life span is called a "half-life". The half-life of Ozone is approximately 7 to 20 minutes. This means that half of the Ozone (O3) created will "break down" and "re-combine" as Oxygen (O2) each 7 to 20 minutes until all the Ozone is gone, depending upon temperature, humidity and the amount of contaminants in the air that the Ozone has to deodorize. In other words, strong odors will use more Ozone and light odors will require less Ozone. If the Ozone cannot find any odor to work on it simply reverts to Oxygen. Clean & Simple."
Here is a link showing the half life in water at different temperatures:
http://www.lenntech.com/ozone/ozone-decomposition.htm
Table 1: half-life of ozone in gas and water at different temperatures
Air
Temp (°C)
Half live
-50
3 months
-35
18 days
-25
8 days
20
3 days
120
1,5 hours
250
1,5 seconds
Dissolved in water (pH 7)
Temp (°C)
Halflive
15
30 min
20
20 min
25
15 min
30
12 min
35
8 min
Another one:http://www.ozoneapplications.com/info/ozone_properties.htm
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Typical O3 half-life vs. Temperature
Gaseous Temp (C)
half-life *
-50
3-months
-35
18-days
-25
8-days
20
3-days
120
1.5-hours
250
1.5- seconds
Dissolved in Water (pH 7) Temp (C) half-life 15 30-minutes 20 20-minutes 25 15-minutes 30 12-minutes 35 8-minutes
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@ 20 C in air, half life of three days. Which is what I am finding to be the case.
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What kind of ozone unit are you using?
You should only use cold corona systems for internal therapy, and use it with oxygen. The problem is trying to figure out what you are getting. I have several companies claim their machines were cold corona when they were obviously hot corona. Things have been muddied even more recently with the introduction of solid state transformers. It used to be the difference between hot and cold corona was the number of dielectrics in the tube. Hot corona has one, and cold corona has a double dielectric. That was based on the old pig iron transformers that operate at 60hz. The new solid state transformers are lighter and smaller, which makes them nice for building units. But they operate at such high frequencies, generally around 28,000hz that they drop the resistance of the dielectrics. So even with the double dielectric the high frequency treats the discharge as if the dielectrics were not even there. Therefore it turns a cold corona tube design in to a hot corona. This is one of the reasons I build my own units.
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nteresting article regarding Tamoxifen. My Grandmother was given this medicine after she was diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 69. She lived for 7 years after and died at the age of 76. I was young, but remember seeing her prescription for Tamoxifen, as I would routinely goto the pharmacy to pick up. The weird thing is that she died of uterine cancer, I wonder if Tamoxifen had anything to do with that?
Definitely, Tamoxifen has been linked to cervical, uterine, liver and other cancers. This has been known for a long time but it was only about 3 years ago that they finally admitted publicly that it increased the risk of cervical cancer. They still have not made the other cancers caused by Tamoxifen public, but this information is in the medical journals.
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How did things get to be so wrong here?
Things are a lot worse than we think. Tamoxifen has been used for a while now as a "preventative" for breast cancer as well in women with a "history" of breast cancer in their families. This is not quite as bad as prophylacitc mastectomies for these same women, but it is definitely up there. What really irks me is that these women are falsely being told that this cancer is familial, when in fact it is viral. Last I heard NO human oncogenes have ever been found. All oncogenes have been found to be viral. Human papilloma virus (HPV) is the culprit in this case. HPV has been linked to cervical, breast, prostate, naso-pharyngeal and skin cancers. So they are scaring these poor women in to having their healthy breasts cut off, or are giving them cancer causing drugs by convincing them that this will prevent breast cancer. I guess if you don't have breasts anymore because you had them cut off that you cannot get breast cancer. But what about this cancer forming virus that may still be in your system? And is it worth the risk of taking a drug to prevent breast cancer when it causes more deadly cancers like liver cancer?
No wonder the doctors are trying to scare women away from phytoestrogens, which also block estrogen just like Tamoxifen. Phytoestrogens do not cause secondary cancers or the other side effects of Tamoxifen, so there is no money to be made in the moment or in the long run from illnesses caused by the drug. So the drug companies and the doctors invested in to them would rather see you take the dangerous Tamoxifen rather than eat a healthy diet full of estrogen-blocking phytoestrogens.
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What a wicked business!
Yes, personally I know three generations of women missing body parts from this madness. The grandmother was mutilated by those whackos - breast and chest wall and part of a shoulder taken in her 40's - her daughter, an acquaintence of mine, was next in line for breast removal, and finally the granddaughter- before she was even 21 !!! This was relayed to me recently when I said aloud - "NEVER will I submit to chemotherapy" and I was chastised by a brainwashed FEMALE in the crowd and reminded that they are all three now "CURED of breast cancer" and "ALIVE" because of the "marvels of modern medicine".
I know of a few others who are feeling the game won with Tamoxifen - and what a waste of my breath to try and warn them?
I was scheduled for complete HYSTERECTOMY at age 22, and refused to keep the appointment without another opinion. Alleged atypical cells appeared on a routine pap smear while briefly trying a birth control containing only progesterone, as I was not tolerating estrogen well with it. The need for radical surgery became a normal pap smear once again within a month after stopping the single hormone!!! I am so grateful I FAILED to successfully take synthetic hormones for more than a total of 3 months in my whole life. So far my mother is without her uterus and gallbladder and has a bionic hip from their MARVELS.
My sisters lost their minds temporarily(?) from the DEPO shot, and what kind of doctor gives that to a woman with fibroid tumors in her breasts?
If HPV is the culprit, then do we just not have sex???
Is Nabothian cervical cyst considered VIRAL or simply sebaceous product from what?
Isn't the HPV vaccine only able to guard against a few strains?
And who wants to take yet another vaccine anyway?
What will these young girls who have been given the vaccine be facing later as a result?
What will protect my baby granddaughters from HPV or scalpel happy misogynist M.D.'s? ( Maybe I will share your post with their parents - some who I gave life to since I could not take THE PILL !!!! )
One of my children was NOT A.D.H.D. until AFTER the booster shot series, so already we go 'round and 'round over vaccinations for our new generation in my family.
Jeeeez - I don't even have aspirin in my house, and I live in a world where maybe THE MARVELS think they want to maybe next try to MAKE me/us take a SWINE FLU shot? Never ever never...
absolutely never on the Tamoxifen. I tore up a scriipt for Flonase recently - the P.A. was going over my blood panel results and was so happy she thought she could actually help me with something PHARMA style while I did the cough, hack, spit - which by the way is subsiding nicely with some DE and Mag. and bitters going on.
Sorry for ranting, but I am 4 days without nicotine and about ready to fly or run or run while flying !!!!!!!!
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I was scheduled for complete HYSTERECTOMY at age 22, and refused to keep the appointment without another opinion. Alleged atypical cells appeared on a routine pap smear while briefly trying a birth control containing only progesterone, as I was not tolerating estrogen well with it. The need for radical surgery became a normal pap smear once again within a month after stopping the single hormone!!! I am so grateful I FAILED to successfully take synthetic hormones for more than a total of 3 months in my whole life. So far my mother is without her uterus and gallbladder and has a bionic hip from their MARVELS.
My sisters lost their minds temporarily(?) from the DEPO shot, and what kind of doctor gives that to a woman with fibroid tumors in her breasts?The PAP smears are a pet peeve of mine. If the PAP is abnormal they automatically tell the woman that they are infected with HPV. This IS NOT what this means. An abnormal PAP can occur from various infections, birth control pills, B6 deficiencies, and smoking. Its a great way for them to keep you coming back for frequent testing and maybe even a medication or two. Its such a scam!!!
If HPV is the culprit, then do we just not have sex???And we can get food poisoning from eating, but that is not going to stop me from eating.
Is Nabothian cervical cyst considered VIRAL or simply sebaceous product from what?No, it is caused from an overgrowth of tissue trapping cervical mucous in pockets known as cervical crypts.
Isn't the HPV vaccine only able to guard against a few strains?I would not say that it dies guard as this has never been tested and proven. The only thing proven about the vaccine is how dangerous it is. It is supposed to guard against 4 of the over 80 strains of HPV.
And who wants to take yet another vaccine anyway?Brainwashed people.
What will these young girls who have been given the vaccine be facing later as a result?There have already been over 30 deaths attributed to the vaccine. And there are the women injured by the vaccine. But not all the cases are going to get reported. They did present one case on world news the other night. The girl is now on a long list of medications for life to treat the side effect she suffered from the vaccine. Here are some articles on Gardasil:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/CancerPreventionAndTreatment/story?id=8356717
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/06/eveningnews/main4781658.shtml
And a CNN report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_13plsrydPY
From the FDA:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm
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