Today's ridiculous claim goes beyond ridiculous and extends in to the sheer stupidity category. This poster has posted this same garbage over and over hoping for a different outcome, that someone will eventually listen. Who is it that said doing the same things over and over expecting different results was a sign of insanity?
The statement:
Anyone with just a little bit of Common Sense can see that the Scientific Proof
is in and that anyone who ate Herbs before the year 1700 is Dead !
Why even anyone who ate Herbs in 1800 are also Dead !
And Most folks who ate Herbs in 1900 may also be Dead?
How much more Scientific proof do we want?
Just check out the Grave yards !
See!!!!!!!!!!
There is our Scientific Proof the eating Herbs will Kill us !
So much for Scientific Proof !
Could it be that having Common Sense is better than Scientific Proof?
So why is this statement so idiotic? Well to begin with there is nothing scientific about it. Using the same principal we could also claim that ingesting alkaline minerals are deadly because nearly all the people in the graveyards ingested alkaline minerals before their death. On the other hand they also drank water, so they must have died from the water. Oh, but they also breathed air before their death, so the air must have killed them...... How many things did these people before their deaths? Of course they could not have died from all of these things they did before their death. There is a thing called "cause and effect" that some people do not seem to understand. Everyone who has had the flu has drunk water before developing the flu. So does this make water the cause of flu? Of course not. So what is the cause of the flu? A virus. What is the effect? Fever, nausea, muscle aches, vomiting......
This is why we need science and scientific evidence, not made up scientific and health claims. There is no single cause of all disease and conditions. And there is no single treatment. We must look at the INDIVIDUAL causes of diseases so we know how to address each disease individually. This will allow us to achieve the effects we desire, which is to be healed when possible.
Isn't it common sense to have scientific proof of what causes different diseases and disorders? And isn't it common sense to know how the body really works so we know how different treatments will affect that disease or disorder as well as the body? Isn't it common sense to have a scientific basis for the therapies rather than rely on made up one treatment cures all mumbo jumbo? Isn't it common sense that if someone would rather attack you or give you explanations in riddles when questioned about their claims that it is time to seek some real advice?
I realize he was being sarcastic. On the other hand if you have ever followed any of his posting history you would also know that his comment is based on the fact that he does not believe in scientific evidence. Why do you think he makes up his own science as he goes along such as nitrogen being a protein. That acids, not enzymes, break food and tissues down. That the breakdown of proteins produce acids rather than alkaline ammonia. That mixing alkaline minerals with an acid releases their electromagnetic energy. An energy that he still has not revealed which of the electromagnetic spectrum he is referring to. Or any of the many other ridiculous claims he makes up that real science totally disproves.
I just got tired of his using this BS repeatedly to bash scientific evidence because real scientific evidence keeps proving how foolish he really is.
Again, it is not a joke with him. As I said, go read his old posts other than this repeated crap he posted. And pay attention to how many times he, and his followers, bash science as being any form of evidence. Or do you also ignore evidence like he does? Actually being that you are still arguing rather than investigating the claim I already know your answer. So let me help you out:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1445609#i
"If science had the Truth, then Why isn't science able to Solve all our problems? Why are folks still Sick and Diseased after taking all these wonder Drugs science has come up with? Could it be that science may Lack in the Truth needed for Healing and Health?"
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1313298#i
"Just to Prove how science works and can Prove "Anything" it wants to, even if it is not so in Reality ! Just check the Records and you will not find one single person who ate Organic Apples before the year 1850, who is still alive ! How about that for science research by the Educated of the world who may have become educated beyond their own Intelligence !"
He repeated the same crap further back:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1039366#i
His egotistical reply about how he knows what science does not:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1205085#i
"Hi imaxfli, Your question: If this is the case-and I am beginning to believe it is-why don't we hear a word from the medical community about it?? Also is there a book or some literature somewhere where the in's and out's, why's and why not's are explained in detail as to why this science is the correct one????
Answer: Could it be that most of the world does "NOT" know the "Truth", which I am sharing?"
Here is a great example of another of his wild claims:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1455878#i
"As I have stated before Sunshine may be Acidic in Nature!"
And this is based on who's science?
Here is another great one where he is bashing me because I understand EM energy, and he is clueless about it. No wonder he has failed to answer what EM energy it is despite being asked over and over. I guess when you get caught in the lie of makiing up your own science it becomes impossible to answer such questions:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1467613#i
"Isn't it amusing at those supposed Worldly Educated Experts who have fits about my comments of Electro-magnetic Energy?
As usual when one may Fail to understand the Truth about a subject they may lay Claims of Fraud, Lies, Rumors etc?
It is sad that any real expert should slide into name calling, just because they may Fail to understand another subject they have NO idea about!
This is what amuses me about some of the supposed Experts here on curezone who may Fail to have even the Simplest of understanding of Electro-magnetic Energy, yet they Scream the Loudest that it cannot be so!"
So again I ask, what EM energy specifically is being released from the alkaline minerals? Maybe it is radio waves and those are the voices he keeps hearing giving him this bogus information.
And his response to a request for him to provide scientific evidence to his claims:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1303678#i
"Everyone wants Evidence, but what kind of Evidence may they be asking for?
Who likes to learn they have been Deceived with False ideas most of their Life?
Don't most folks Seek to verify that what they have come to believe is Truth is still Truth, for they do not want to admit to themself that they have become Decieved with False info?
So, when someone asks for Evidence, maybe we 1st need to determine what kind of Evidence they are after?
What good is the Evidence if it just keeps a person a Slave to the Medical establishment and Drug companies?
How can Evidence be any Good if it --Fails-- to be able to Repeatably give Success Testimonials of Healing by those Seeking Healing from their Sickness and Diseases?
I am Sorry for those whom have come to this forum Seeking Evidence that agrees with the --False-- info that has kept them Deceived all their Life and does not give Repeatable Success Testimonials of Healing, so they do not Feel so Bad about being Deceived !
As I have stated before this forum is "Only" for a Select Few folks whom are willing to learn to take Personal Responsibility for their own Healing !
This forum is --NOT-- for those Seeking Evidence that agrees with the False info that has kept them Deceived, so they don't feel so Bad about their Deception !"
There are plenty more examples from his forum to prove my point. It only takes someone who is willing to research the facts instead of wasting time arguing.
What gets me is how many excuses he comes up with to avoid providing evidence to his claims. I guess if you don't have it you can't provide it.
He still thinks testimonials are evidence. They are not. How can you rule out placebo effect? And just because something makes you feel better this does not mean something worked and that it is not going to cause you more harm in the long run. Chemotherapy can make a cancer patient feel better by reducing the size of a tumor. So if this makes them feel better and they say so is this evidence or proof that it works? Of course not. The cancer is still going to be there, and the chemo suppresses the immune system allowing the cancer to grow back faster. So the testimonial that "chemo made me feel better" is as worthless as I feel better drinking caustic calcium hydroxide. And using the same ridiculous ML uses, everyone who claims to have felt better on the ML protocol drank water. So there is proof that the water is what made people feel better, not the caustic calcium hydroxide. Gee, I guess this ML's version of scientific evidence does work. It just proved that the calcium hydroxide is worthless!!!
I do realise that he was trying to make a joke by using this example to prove scientific evidence to be useless, the joke is not original, I've heard this example used many many times.
Yes, it was obvious that he was being sarcastic, but his buddy totally missed my point, even when I re-explained it to him. Now he is over on ML's board whining about how I banned him. Wah, wah, wah. What did he expect when he has a history full of being disruptive on these boards but not contributing?
What is irritating and that I was trying to get across is how ML constantly looks for ways to avoid providing proof to his claims. When he does try he finds scientific links that contain a few words he uses. But since he is clueless about science he fails to realize that his links have NOTHING to do with his claims. It is like his NASA links showing how they determine hydrogen content by reading the spectra of a multibillion degree hydrogen plasma. What does that have to do with the supposed EM energy he falsely claims is released from the alkaline minerals? Nothing. If they released that kind of energy we would have all vaporized a long time ago. And this does not prove that sunlight is acidic. What a m*o*o*nic claim to make in the first place. Sunlight does not have a pH. Sunlight does not consist of hydrogen atoms!!! Sunlight is composed of EM waves. He should have learned this by the third grade like everyone else!!! So that was my point. Instead of providing real evidence to his claims, since it does not exist, he relies on his own made up science and links to science sites that he does not even understand. Since all this fails he comes up with his sarcastic BS that he keeps repeating over and over just because he has nothing real to post. And when someone posts the same BS over and over it is clear that this is wishful thinking. Like Dorothy with the ruby slippers, there is no place like home, there is no place like home…… But in ML’s case it is made up science is fact, made up science is fact…….
lol, nice analogy Hv. Does that make you the wicked witch of the west ???, I'm sure ML thinks of you that way :), Dorothy's not in Kansas anymore.
I would think of myself more like the Nice Witch of the West trying to help ML to find his way home to the truth.