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To the residents of the world minus the United States: Please don't hate ALL of us. There are a majority of us out here with our heads on the right way. We don't believe in what our dictator/president is doing, nor do we believe his justifications for war. War is not the answer, it never was.
To the residents of the United States (and other parts of the world) who avidly believe in dictator/president Bush Jr: How can you believe in this maniacal leader who plans to rule under the iron fist? In just a few short years this man has undone everything this country was built on, and slowly he is taking away the freedoms and unalienable rights that belong to us, invoking fear and the threat of tyranny, turning friends against us. I urge you to open your eyes and realize this.
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
Many people are actually researching the facts that are out there in plain view and comming up with the same conclusion as you have.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what is happening but it does take an open mind and a willingness to look. Some come to the knowledge due to a paradigm shift of one type or another. The good news is people are waking up, I just hope that we all unite in time to stop the tyranny before it is locked solidly in place.
Check out Alex Jones weekdays here http://www.gcnlive.com/ on stream 2 between 10 am and 1 pm MST. He has a refeed on the same internet netwerk every weekday evening.
More great info can be found at infowars.com
Time to stand up for our rights.
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This is a reply to # 145,234So, meet me in the Chat Room, I have questions regarding :
'Many people are actually researching the facts that are out there in plain view and comming up with the same conclusion as you have.'
I want to know what makes some articles and resources more credible then others.
Just seeking the truth
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This is a reply to # 145,235"I want to know what makes some articles and resources more credible then others."
When they're backed by government documentation. Also when many sources (unconnected) are saying the same thing. There's many dots to see, one just needs to connect them. When you have read the patriot act(parts one and two) for starters we can talk more.
Have you heard of the Northwood document? What do you know of FEMA? Have you watched the documentary 911, Road to Tyranny?
How about the Waco documentary that I recommended?
Is there anything in the way of evidence for your case that you'd like me to read and comment on.
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This is a reply to # 145,236I know that the New World Order is real. Only from what I have read and understood I thought the UN Is the start of it and will likely head it. Not the USA.......(I'm not saying that is right though)
I've surfed Alex Jones website, and looked and some of his articles, I also started to watch the 911 documentary, but got interupted. I will finish it though. I already know the controversy that surrounds WACO and that whole situation is repulsive.
These theories can be convincing but so can the other side. There are people that think the USA Government is doing the right things and there are documents and articles that back up that thinking as well.
please check out :
http://www.frontpagemag.com/
http://www.newsmax.com/
Look at these web sights with an open mind and eyes, so you can form an honest opinion.
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A while back I posted a link to a site...takebackthemedia.com...and prefaced by saying that if anyone found the flashfilm offensive, make sure to at least check out what the site has to say about the popular media and its corporate, government and military ties. You replied that the site was 'SICK'...which gave me a pretty good idea that you didn't look beyond the film. There's a lot of valuable information on that site that specifically addresses the questions you are raising about the credibility of resources and why the popluar media presents a distorted view of the 'truth'. At the very least...you should have an understanding of who owns what so that you can keep in mind who's interests are being protected when you read/hear the 'news'.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 145,240If you visit the site again...click on 'who owns the media?' and 'the issue' at the top of the page...very enlightening.
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This is a reply to # 145,241I visited the site again. I already know that most big media corporations do not deliver unbiased truth. I also know they can't be trusted.
Who can you trust?
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This is a reply to # 145,233So I watched Alex Jones, 2 1/2 hour movie. I didn't get too much from it except some Conspiracy theories.
I didn't hear any hard facts, just speculation. I couldn't even find a copy anywhere of this so called public document proving that USA government was protecting AlQueda.
When he was talking about the Oklahoma city bombing, I couldn't help but start wondering, that if indeed the American Government was behind it, why on earth would they not shut off the video cameras and carry it out a little cleaner???
Why would the Government carry out all these heinous crimes, and do it in such a sloppy manner?
Do you suppose they want to invite Anarchy among the people of America, when they are trying to control them?
I saw where Alex pointed out all these theories, but I did not see where he backed them up with substantial proof, except other peoples' opinions.
I'm still not sold that Bush is a part of the Illuminati, or New World Order. I will post my reasons later when I have more time.- Re: from an average american Lapis
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This is a reply to # 145,247If you think those are theories...there's no hope!
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This is a reply to # 145,253You can read government documents..that would be a start.
You need to take responsibility for yourself..you just suggested that. That is what I've been saying all along when you have put your faith in George. So go exploring like I and others have. Spend some time time with it, then get back to me.
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
Yes, I want real evidence. Documented evidence. Real evidence based on fact not theory.
Not hyped up sensationalistic journalism, with quick video clips really not proving much of any of the theory.
I just can't understand how that video could convince anyone who is seriously seeking out the truth. You would already have to have preconceived beliefs/ideas coinciding with the video. If you were going to agree with Alex Jones.
If it were to convince anyone it would be someone who is blind to media tactics. People that do not realize that facts can get manipulated and twisted out of context, just to sway a person to thinking and agreeing with a theory. All I saw was Alex Jones using those same tactics.
That is why I need real evidence.
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This is a reply to # 145,258Your comment:
"If it were to convince anyone it would be someone who is blind to media tactics."
I worked in the media in a high end position for many years. I know the tactics and this video was the icing on the cake for me.
I did check as many sources though because that's what you do when you want to verify something. Other intelligent people can see it too based on the facts that Alex and many others not associated with Alex document and contioue to document daily.
I have talked to all kinds of people. Many are able to see it, others seem to refuse the undeniable information. Some deny the alternative health information offered on this site too buying into the government backed propoganda that its quackery and that mainstream is the only way.(follow the money)
If there was no truth in this video they would have him locked up for slander faster than you can say conspiracy.
*asking again* Did you read the patriot acts 1 and 2 for yourself yet. Also, what "facts" convinced you about the WACO conspiracy? Did you corroborate those "facts"?
It takes patience and reading, reading and more reading from many sources. Always question motives. Who has something to gain or hide. Who is connected to whom. Probably one of the more important rules in flushing out Conspiracy among theories is to follow the money. Look at all the stuff from every which angle and then you will see it. Plain as the nose on your face. I hope.
I realize Bush is a sacred cow for some. You say you trust Bush? Based on what? Because he "SAID" he was a christian. Hmmmmm.
Why else? Cute staged photo opps?
Interesting how the ENRON stuff just died down huh. Oh and then there was that little addition to the patriot act that released pharmeceutical companies from being sued due to damage from vaacinations. Theory? Check it out. Also interesting that when anyone wants to call the government on anything, key evidence is always snapped up and hidden away in the name of national security. Theory? Check it out.
I would also invite others to watch the video and comment.
PLEASE
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I have skimmed Patriot acts 1 & 2, it takes time, I don't have a lot so I have to do it all in stages. I'm still looking for document WI??? (the one where USA government protect Osama Bin Laden and AlQueda) Can you help?
I don't agree with any forced vaccination, and I believe all 97% of pharmecueticals are evil and poison. So that is not the issue here. Besides the pharmecuetical compinies will always successfully brainwash whoever is in government. It's a big business, and they are not going away. HA! You and I agree on one issue! Imagine that!
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This is a reply to # 145,249From watching news, reading articles, I felt the whole thing ended very badly, and did so because of bad government decisions...what else is there to say?
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This is a reply to # 145,252What is your conclusion, why and is it based on "concrete evidence" or/and by connecting dots, filling in gaps, spending some time with the issues. How were you able to see through it?
The lies I mean.- Re: from an average american #166187
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This is a reply to # 145,256You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out the WACO fiasco. I mean, just from watching mainstream media you could tell it was all wrong...nothing justifies burning men, women and children.
Whether it was all an accident or purposely done we can still safely blame Janet Reno and the ATF.
Whether the people at the 'Branch Davidian' compound, were right or wrong in their beliefs, their actions by no means warrented such an attack or invasion. Especially when ATF and Janet Reno knew there were innocent women and children inside. These people were not insane, or threatening like other people we know of in this world.- Too many stofurz in forums hahahahaa... Mark 21 y 3,777
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This is a reply to # 145,233What you say is true and its sick. Our world was doing just fine a few years ago and now we have this battle of good and bad forces, just like Lord of the Rings.
I hope the nay sayers wake up too before it is too late. Our freedoms are being eroded as we speak, our health freedoms, it is coming from every angle.
We must inform ourselves, we cannot sit on the couch anymore, the time has come.
Get rid of Bush in the next election, vote for Ronald McDonald if you must Americans, but for god sake, make an informed decision, one that we can all live happily with.
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