Had to Quit UT Again 
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I'm not sure what I should do now but will listen to ideas from you. I was taking 4 ounces [half a cup] of morning urine every day and I started to get loose stools, sour taste in mouth, mental dullness, bloating, and fatigue, all indicative of Herxheimer [detox reaction]. I've gotten this many times in the last 20 years. I was once on Nystatin, an oral antifungal medicine used to control bacterial problems but after a while I could no longer take it, as it started to cause the above side effects in excess. It has also happened to me with other anti fungal agents and I had to quit them to keep my job and functionability. Grapefruit Seed Extract caused it too, and others. This is no fun at all when this happens, and I always quit taking the agent to get back to "normal" again. It may be caused by liver toxicity due to congestion from too many toxins trying to be excreted at one time. It seems to overwhelm my body's detox abilities.
So, right now I don't think oral UT would be a good way for me personally, to take UT. I may try Urine injections. They are said to do wonders for some people. I've got a book that tells how to do them.
I also wonder about a urine fast. I can't take oral UT if it's going to be debilitating to me because I don't know how long it will take me to get to "the other side" of this reaction, or if I ever will at all, because I still think I have mercury in my body and if UT neutralizes pathogens, the mecury may still be in my body and may still prevent me from having a healthy GI tract flora. I have too much Klebsiella Oxytoca and not enough Bifidus Longum, most likely because of mercury.
I'm open to suggestions. I'm 58, male, with Hepatitis C. Would a UT fast be debilitating to me?
Joe
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My personal opinion is if a quarter of a cup is causing you that many problems, then a UT fast would cause many more.
If I remember right, the Martha Christy protocol is only one tablespoon per day. If you've read her book, that cured a multitude of ills for her. My recommendation is to either quit and try again or to cut back to just a tablespoon for at least a couple of weeks before increasing it. Some people handle it better than others. If you've been off of it for a while, it does take time for the body to readjust to ingesting it. I've been on UT of at least one cup a day for several years and one of the things that lets me know that I'm on track is that my urine has a light and clean taste to it. If I go off for a few days (have had to due to hospital visits) then it takes a couple of days for my urine to get back to that clean taste again. I can tell what I've been eating and how well I've been eating, just from the taste of my urine - and even drinking one large martini, I can tell the next day.
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Thanks for your reply.
Actually I do have Martha Christy's book. The 1st time I did UT I drank many cups of it daily for 2 or 3 months before the fatigue, and bowel symptoms appeared. Then I waited several months before resuming. This time [the 2nd time] I drank 1/2 cup for about a week before the fatigue set in. The week before I drank 1-2 oz up to 4x daily.
About 2 months ago I resumed with just sublingual drops - about 5-10 and up to 3x daily. At first it gave me tons of pep but it didn't seem to last for some reason, but some of the benefits may have been there. Maybe I should have stuck with the drops. Maybe I was asking too much to have so much pep, I don't know.
I might do better on UT after I've chelated more mercury in a year or two. I take ALA chelation every 2 hours for three days every week. For now I guess I'll wait a while and then resume with drops, or possibly even a teaspoon or tablespoon on arising.
Do you have any idea what UT injections may do for me?
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I've done them with no ill effect, in fact - I have gotten a more level mood
feeling out of them and I haven't had any adverse effects. However, I'd
been drinking my urine for 3 - 4 years before trying them.
I would think that if you're having significant detox from oral that perhaps
you would do best to leave the injections alone. Just my opinion.
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This is a reply to # 1,438,535Good chance you're right about this.
I think I need to focus on my internal toxicity [mercury] for now. Maybe in a year or two I'll be more able to take UT with less symptoms. Most therapies I've tried in the last 20 years have been more or less fruitless and that's probably because mercury created the imbalance in my GI tract and I don't think it's going to go away until I chelate the mercury out of my body, and this takes time, maybe 1 to 3 years. :)
Joe
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This is a reply to # 1,438,458A teaspoon or trwo would not do it for me. I have been drinking about 1/2 to 1 cup(depending on saltinesss) of my morning urine for over a year to keep my heart beating right. If I take less, I get problems -palpitations etc.
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This is a reply to # 1,438,441I think the reason why UT keeps zapping my energy is because of my weak adrenal function. I take hydrocortisone and chelating has made me need this more, and UT seems to drag my adrenals down even more.
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Nope Joseph it is not the UT taking you down but the Hydrocortisone.
Do not continue the HYD.
How long you been on them... no wonder you have weak adrenals.
I had weak adr. for a while.. I had to take hyd. to get through some bad stress. so I took them for 4=5 months and cratered... went off them and took Seriphos for a while...
There is a Dr. Rhodes in Oregon... whom you can call and get testing and help from - do call him - you cannot know what is wrong with the adrenals hi or lo until you test... he can get your through that.
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This is a reply to # 1,467,907Thanks but I've already done saliva testing for hormones and found low adrenal function which got worse on Chelation. Chelating causes redistribution at first and the Hg can redeposit in various parts of the body, and can in the adrenals, causing a lot of fatigue. My symptoms improved immediately on taking 20 to 30 mg of HC daily. I've known others that went through this also, and have taken HC for 2 or 3 years and then successfully weaned off if it. HC is IMHO a very useful temporary tool to help get through Mercury chelation, from point A to point B.
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This is a reply to # 1,438,441Hi Joe,
I have been using UT for many years, and have cured myself of lots of ailments, from ear infections, herpes, to most severe Bells Palsy..( I will post on this later )
I also have helped many of my friends, who are converted due to my own success and my 100% unshakable belief that UT is the ONLY way for REAL and permanant cure.
One of my friends has Severe psoriasia, and had a cortisone overload. WHen we first started ut, she had many negative reactions.
I suggested a foot bath.
We collected all her urine, and every evening heated it and she soaked her feet.It is only necessary to cover the soles with Urine. The effect was positive, since the urine actually draws accumulated toxins OUT and at the same time the skin absorbs just the right amount.
We then started with drops under the tongue, stopped if she again suffered too rapid detox, and kept up the footbaths.
Within a week, she was suitabley freed of the Cortisone poisioning, and we began an earnest programme that is till going on.
We use ONLY drops under the tongue , finding this to be the BEST considering all her health problems, allergies food intolerances , digestive disturbances, and of course chronic Psoriasis that covered 30% of her body .
Footbathingallows you more control , especially when over toxed as you are..
Let me know how you go.....
:)
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- Re: Had to Quit UT Again josephr525
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This is a reply to # 1,451,936Interesting.
I plan to keep using UT to help get my health back. I'm chelating Mercury and I think it may be too early to get too deeply into UT, but I need to be persistent with it.
AM interested in urine injections. I may get Martin Lara's book on UT which tells how to DIY UT injections.
Or, I may drink it on arising. I seem to tolerate 2 to 4 ounces on arising OK lately. Some days it seems to give me a good start to the day but am hesitant to get too carried away with it. Sooner or late I might be able to tolerate UT with no or less side effects.
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