Sounds like a reasonable request to me! With two caveats:

1.) Common Sense is not so common.

2.) Tell someone a lie and they may dislike you, but tell them the truth and they'll hate you.

I thought I was chronically ill and going to die before I came to my senses, questioned my doctor's advise and actions, dismissed them, and then went on to spend thousands of hours of research to get where I am today.

I most likely was "chronically" ill according to "modern" medicine, because I was on blood pressure medication... for life they told me... and my liver enzymes were rising off of the charts - most likely due to the drugs they had me on, along with poor lifestyle and food choices, etc.

I also had had, nearly a decade before, the fortunate opportunity as a returning student, an interest in agricultural sciences and chose to major in Organismal Biology and Ecology in college...

I had a background that included a great deal of research and study on Edgar Cayce , vegetarianism, along with natural health and healing for years in my youth, all of which gave me the solid background I needed to not only understand, but to also apply what I learned.

I now freely share my experience and knowledge on these boards, but in no way want my own forum, in part, for the reasons you cite in your post.

People on these boards can see my continued growth over the years here... if they have followed my posts.

People do not "get it", or perhaps they do not want it... it takes a HUGE paradigm shift or several, and many, perhaps most people are unable, and\or unwilling to make those shifts.

Like a drug addict who must give up their social circles and friends to get out of the "habit" and ritual of the addictions.

It means sometimes giving up what you have that is holding you back... in order to move forward. It takes courage and faith in yourself... it takes resolve and perseverance... I could go on.

I think there is a profound meaning here...

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

You must leave EVERYTHING behind... and move forward.

Uny has done this by giving up a great deal... for YOU, the reader\seeker.

Would you make those "shifts"?

As a CZ "roamer", I can choose to offer "free" my experience that people can use for their benefit or not.

You most likely have traveled a similar road uny... and I am sure, it has not been easy for either of us, and at times, as the world moves forward, seems to get even more difficult due to the rapidly decreasing availability of clean food, air, water, and soil.

Which, putting in perspective, will make it ever more difficult as time moves forward for people coming in as newbee's, to see and understand what we do.

If anyone has ever experienced anything close to what I did, you also nearly became, socially isolated\unaccepted, and perhaps fight\fought those close to you daily against going to doctors to be prodded, hacked and drugged.

Perhaps there are daily confrontations with a spouse or other family member about your "science" lab in the kitchen...

Perhaps you do not want your house to look cluttered with all of the herbs, tonics, and such... get over it.

You stop going out to restaurants, minimize exposure to parties with piles of junk food and booze, etc.

For me, I fought against the constant barrage of family, friends, pharmaceutical reps and medical appliance reps, (many are my friends), nurses (we have many in the family and circle of friends), teachers (many of these in the family and circle of friends too), and several doctors, some internationally renowned, who "are" my friends and family as well, telling me, nearly forcing me at one point (I was literally told they would carry me to a car against my will to go if they had to - that was a FIGHT) to have knee replacements... I will keep my knees thank you and am just fine today.

I am not sure anyone here has had any idea what I went through or was up against... or the resolve needed to fight against those kinds of odds and pressures.

There was a lot of discouragement and anger along the way... words cannot even begin to describe the pain... but I persevered.

SO if it seems some of us are a bit "hard" on you, you really do not have ANY idea at all what hard is.

Today, these same people have witnessed and acknowledge my "miracle"... but it was not a miracle at all... it was a great deal of my own personal pain and suffering ALONE, that included a lot of emotional hurt and tears, at the hands of others who constantly berated my choices and tried to sabotage at every opportunity my extremely hard work, tried my patience, and tempted me to move away from my determined perseverance.

People have absolutely no idea what it really took for me to get from where I was, to where I am... perhaps others who have started where I did and have made similar progress do... if they have had a supporting spouse, they have it MUCH better than I do... my wife, though she does not try to sabotage me anymore, has nothing to do with my ways... we cook and eat separately - that is hard enough... she, a microwave what ever, Dairy Queen, Pizza, Taco Bell, etc... me, an organic meal or a green smoothie, which takes time to prepare, ingest and then clean up.

I can offer... that is all I can do. Whether she accepts or not is up to her.

We must change our lives "as if" our quality of, and very lives depend upon it... it does.

BTW - my wife is at a point of decision... she may have to choose my way, or see her quality of life and health continue to further degrade - if she does not choose my way, she will most likely be in a wheel chair within a year or two; it is that bad... she continues to go to doctors... but then she has been in the medical field for almost 30 years... there is a lot to undo.

A small, saving grace... she uses good salt, oil and fats for the most part when she does cook... it is all I buy or let in the house. And she oil pulls... She did it for a while over a year ago, had the best check up she has had in years, and then quit (these are not things you can do till better and then quit... they are LIFESTYLE changes\paradigm shifts)... her dental hygienist told her too start again when she went in last week due to the noticeable degradation of her oral health... in just 6 months time... so she did. Go figure. Why we do not listen to our loved ones is beyond me.

That is reality folks... it is extremely hard, and painful at times; these days, it seems, more often than not.

About the knees... my miraculous improvements have led me to the point where I will be giving health talks to a group of people... mostly my friends mentioned above... They are reluctant to hear it... and have put it off for months now...

I think they (these doctors, nurses, and medical people) are "afraid" of what I will say.

One thing is for sure, they cannot deny my obvious transformation from a time when they nearly forced me to have knee replacements...

Perhaps this weekend.

Never give up.

prayers,

grz-

Yes, this forum is a fun place of love, light, and laughter- we want that.

BUT- first and foremost it is a sanctuary of healing and we mean real healing, and NOT goofing around, If you come to Uny/us for help, we will give you help. Not many of y'all realize what it is costing Uny & Rocky to do this for y'all. We will give you the best that we have. We will love you like there is no tomorrow.

But if you come here, ask for help, allow Uny to spend HOURS of time researching your situation and writing up a protocol,and then you go "Oh- that's too much trouble, forget THAT," when we, the forum moderators, KNOW the info Uny just gave you is what the greatest healers did to heal your exact condition, then what are you doing?

And as Uny said, she says what she says, and I confirm what she says, because we KNOW it is the Truth and it is what works. You HAVE to follow the directions. You HAVE to take it seriously. WE sure are.

I mean, there's a REASON why you have to start on IF#1 and 2 before you do anything else. If you try to do a Liver Flush and you're not on IF#1 and 2 (because you don't like the black color of IF#2 and IF#1 gives you a little cramping???), you are SERIOUSLY compromising your health as your body has to reabsorb toxic bile into your bloodstream! And WE don't want to be responsible for you acting like a fool! I'm doing a parasite cleanse right now and as soon as I could I started knocking back IF#2 and flooding myself with fluids. Because if I don't those nasties will die in there and I can't imagine how sick I'd be! And don't you EVER dare to do a Cold Sheet Treatment without cayenne and lobelia at the ready. We tell you to do what we tell you to do because you HAVE to do it this way in order to succeed at this. Otherwise you could be in a HEAP of trouble.

Maybe we've had TOO much fun. Maybe you think you don't have to take this seriously. Because we'll stop that fun stuff in a heartbeat if we discern that's the case.

We HOPE you do the research before you just start doing things to yourself blindly. We HOPE you will ask us WHY and HOW as well as WHAT. We are EDUCATORS, not doctors. We are here to support you on your personal healing journey, using God's tools and the research and protocols of the most gifted healers the world may have ever known. Why would you do ANYTHING other than the directions they gave?

Uny, Rocky, and I have used these herbs and done these protocols for some time- Uny obviously longer than I have. But I know how my body responds to a lot of Uny's products (and those I make myself). I know my body feels differently when I take 5 doses of IF#2 a day as opposed to 3. I know what my heart does when I don't take cayenne. I took a 3 week break from "protocol," and let me tell you, I felt horrible, and I am having to regain some ground.

This may be a little "Wingism," but if you're gonna do it, you gotta DO it. I am on the full-blown Incurables Program, trying to kick dystrophy's butt before it kicks mine. I love y'all, but I am NOT going to tolerate any nonsense, either. We are NOT playing games here, and y'all better not be either.

We love you. Tough love.

Wings