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This is a reply to # 143,103Hi, a colonic at almost any time can only help, and all I suggest between the time you read this and the time of your appointment is to drink enough fluids and not eat anything heavy. I would also recommend that you don't take Bentonite between now and then.
There are several differences between an an open versus closed colonic system. First, with a closed system, the water and waste matter you eliminate are carried via tubing directly into the plumbing system so there is no odor whatsoever. With an open system you eliminate into a basin or channel that typically leads to the toilet, so your waste and stool is exposed to the air in the studio and splashing and overflow is possible. Much less sanitary.
Open systems are typically gravity flow, much like if you were receiving an enema or using a Colema board, whereas a closed system depends on gentle pressure, controlled by the therapist, to introduce the water and evacuate the waste. Another difference usually is the type of speculum (rectal instrument) used. With a closed system typically the speculum is larger, for an adult between 0.60 and 0.75 inches in diameter, and waste is evacuated through this speculum. In contrast, most open gravity flow systems use a pencil thin rectal attachment to introduce the water, and elimination occurs around the tube rather than through it.
I'll post some images here either tonight or later in the week of each type system to give you a better idea of what I have attempted to convey in words.
Best wishes for Monday's colonic!
Sincerely, Valerie
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MoreThis is a reply to # 143,103I just uploaded images of a modern "closed" colon hydrotherapy system, and a disposable speculum with obturator typically used with a closed system.
For some reason I was unable to edit the description for these images, so if you have questions I'll be happy to answer them.
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This is a reply to # 143,107Valerie,
My computer savy, or lack of, is showing....how do I access the uploads? I went to 30 uploads at the top of the screen, that didn't work.
I think the one I'm going to tomorrow (opps, today) is "closed". (it was a bigger machine, the other was smaller.) My memory skills will clear as I get my large intestine and colon problems cleared up (that's the plan) however, I seem to recall one of the two you could add something to the water. I assume (ouch) that was the open one (the smaller) but am I wrong or right? you only fill the paperwork out the first time, and now I can't remember.
I ask because a respected alternative practioner (reflexology, essential oils, intuitive, iridologist type person) said I had large intestine, kidney, and liver/gallbladder problems, which I agree with, but what surprised me was that she said she didn't think I was absorbing nourishment. That's bothered me. It makes sense, but it bothers me. I blended up a tubful of tea--parsely, cilantro, and something else, and soaked in it....if I can't get it through my colon, thought I'd try my skin. Hey, but just did that twice--my hubby thought I was a little strange....HOWEVEr....
can't something be added to the colonic? How do I best get the good guys flourishing in the small and large intestines? I keep forgetting my 'pearls' and I'm dairy intolerant, so the kefir I buy for my kids, doesn't sit well with me. I'm a bit stumped. I've backed off many of my supplements because I think I was WAY overtaxing my liver.....
Wondering if there was something I could do during, before, after the colonic to move my care of the colon forward.....
Thanks Valerie. Oh, and do you dislike it being shortened to Val? I have a sis with the same name, and it's just habit, but I know some people are sensitive to that...
thanks,
pj
so where ARE those pictures????? I'll get this stuff eventually. So much to learn.....lol- ps: I took the bentonite Before I re... pjangel
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This is a reply to # 143,108PJ, where I get my colonics, she does the closed ones that are gravity fed. She can add things to the water that my body needs, she did this once.
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This is a reply to # 143,110What did she add? I was going to stop by my essential oil person and ask her opinion. I'm so past my liver flush, I'm sure none are stuck THIS time, but I couldn't get in till today (I dropped in on Friday, in a bit of pain) and I'd like to make the most of the apt.
Thanks Midge. I've got a sick 11 year old today, so I don't have a lot of time to care for him and myself.
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This is a reply to # 143,115He is feeling MUCH better.
Colonic and after were GREAT.
She doesn't put things in....I understand. She did a good job, and I'm doing a good job. I'm still thinking I need to buy a colemic board thingie for in between, but I'm not sure.....I like my hot water bottle, BUT...I'm not sure if it MIGHT be easier with the other 'stuff'. I've never SEEN the board or anything
what do You think?
peace and joy,
pj
Oh, it's my "gratitude day". Thank you for being You! It's so fun to keep up with everyone.....
hey, while I was 'releasing'.....I 'named' some of my gallstones....BEFORE after the OO (Olive-Oil) and grapefruit....I just thought of my irritations/angers....little things, and people I might be haboring bitterness towards....and I prayed to "let it go"...some of the bigger hurts/angers/bitterness I know I still have to let go of....I know, alot is chemical, bad food, etc, but I'm sure that I can change my chemicals by my thoughts, and many of those 'gall-stones' are of my making. And if I made em, I can break em. I feel grateful--I'd guess those pains I was feeling....I adverted a major gallstone attack....and I'll keep flushing...but I'm taking a moment before I get "irritated" and ask myself if it is worth it....at a cellular level or even in my gallbladder....it puts an interesting spin on things.
Later--I've got to find recipes for a healthy pie with stevia and pumpkin!!!!
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This is a reply to # 143,108pj, I wish I could have gotten back to you sooner, and I presume you have already had your Monday colonic, but near the top of my screen at the right there is an icon with a link to "Enema Image Gallery ". That is where you find the images that have already been uploaded.
Oh, and also, I go by whatever anyone prefers - Val, Valerie, Aunt V, and a few others. No big deal, whatever you are comfortable with.
If you trust your present colon therapist, I would ask her to recommend any additives to your treatments if she thinks they are appropriate. I typically use pure filtered water during the session, and at the end, if the doctor has ordered it, administer an implant of one or more of a variety of herbal additives, wheatgrass being just one example.
But this is a very individualized choice, and what's right for one person may be bad for another. So I encourage you to let your health advisor or colon therapist recommend what's best for you.
Hope you are feeling nice and clean and healthy inside tonight, Val- Fall cleaning, colon style....Update pjangel
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This is a reply to # 143,112Val,
The colonic WAS a closed system. The therapist, for legal reasons, prefers NOT to add anything to the colonic. The session went VERY well--guess what, clear water and then .....GALLSTONES> I was chatting away with her, and then she said, "You might want to notice these" and said they were gallstones. They were bigger than I'd ever seen so far...not just little peas....I was concerned that I had flushed the preceding Thursday, so there would be no stones.....so I ate avacados for breakfast and applejuice, and a large gulp of oil.....whatever....
I PASSED STONES....so pleased....
The colonic therapist is a reflexolgy person as well, and we discussed where in my foot and colon were crunchies....and she hit certain places....I could feel my shoulder relaxing (right, but not left) and she worked the spot that related to my medula obligato....we hit a pocket of 'crap' there....the water turned muddy, and that was great...
The only downside....the hour was up, and I finished 'releasing' on the toilet, and then I guess I felt I couldn't stay longer.....so I cleaned up and left. Almost immediately I started feeling a slight pain up my left forearm, moving into my shoulder, etc. I still had more to release...but got busy...
So at 3 am I was up doing a coffee enema. I had eaten lightly after the flush....blended soups of vegtables and broth....and more than that came out.
Now, this morning.....this is probably to be expected, but not a good thing.....my kidneys hurt. I'm going to make up a batch of kidney tea,,,,I'm sure I'll feel better after I get moving...
later,
pj
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This is a reply to # 143,113
pj, overall it sounds to me like you had a good session. It is not that unusual after a colonic to feel like you have eliminated everything, only to find after leaving, and at the most inconvenient time possible that you all of a sudden have to go very urgently.
Actually, I can personally relate to it. When I was a senior in high school I went to Orlando with 3 of my friends for Spring Break and stayed with my aunt, my mom's youngest sister. After 3 days I was exhausted and totally constipated, and while my classmates went to Disneyworld for the day my aunt drove me an hour away to Cocoa to her therapist for a colonic.
I had had colonics before and everything went well, and when we left I thought I had gotten everthing remaining out on the toilet. But about 20 minutes into the drive back home, in the middle of nowhere with only sawgrass and swamp on both sides I got these intense cramps and incredible pain and couldn't hold it any longer. My aunt pulled to the side of the road and I just got out and squatted and released. There was no other choice. It only took a few seconds and although at the time it was the least of my worries, my aunt said that only a couple of cars went by on the other side of the divided highway.
My stomache was still unsettled when we got to her place and I readily consented when she said she wanted to give me a clear water enema to rinse out any remaining waste still inside. What came out was very dark concentrated liquid and I felt nauseous.
Afterwards I fell sound asleep for several hours until I heard the noise when my friends got back. By that time I felt terrific and was ready to go out for the night, but they were all exhausted after a long day in the hot sun. So I can personally relate to what it's like when everything doesn't come out when it's supposed to.
I like what you are telling us about your therapist. It sounds like you found a good one.
You are doing the right things and I'm confident that they will yield benefits not just now, but over the long term.
All the best, Val
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This is a reply to # 143,116Val,
I did what I could for the kidney pain.(although I still need to make up my kidney tea today) I'm very blessed to have such wonderful support and friends.....one is an accupuncturist, and between what I did for my kidneys, and the 'seeds' she put in my ears to open my kidney meridian, I feel much better. I'm going to keep flushing, I'm thinking 5 more times with colonics with two to three weeks between.....
My mind is getting clearer....the sleeping is getting better....I slept 5 hours last night with is the longest I've slept for quite a while.....my neighbor said my skin looks better, the accupuncturist was pleased with my color and my pulses, and all is looking very VERY hopeful.
I'm excited to be headed in the right direction!
peace and joy, and health too,
pj
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