WINSTON SHROUT – Solutions in Commerce #4
HISTORY
People have believed for almost 250 years that they have a sovereignty, when in fact the don’t.
The United States is still a British Colony. And has been from the very inception. The so-called “Founding Fathers” were members of the “Crown”. They were attorneys, Benjamin Franklin in particular.
And so, for instance, the signers on the Declaration of Independence—it was signed by the “Crown”, and the attorneys for the Crown.
The conquest of the Native People by a “bankrupt corporation”—U.S.A. Inc., and the treaties that were signed, that is original validity. One of the great tragedies of the United States is that it tried to obliterate, through apartheid, it tried to obliterate the people off the land. And not only just by war. They’ve tried to prevent the people to increase their numbers, by sterilization, by all manner of things. The churches have tried to take the children away and turn them into corporate citizens. We’ve seen this continually, and it still goes on today.
To give you an idea of what went on in the earliest of time...
There was the East India Trading Co. which sought to subjugate the whole world, and they continue to try to do so. This was the corporation that funded the colonization of the original 13 Colonies or States. They are the ones that created the Debt.
It is true that the people from Europe who have occupied America have always done so under bankruptcy. What they tried to do to avoid the bankruptcy, they tried to incorporate and shift the liability from the Private side into the Public. And they did that by incorporating under the Articles of Confederation. With the incorporation the new entity took on the debt and liability that was owed to the East India Trading company, and consequently, the King of England at that time, under an incorporation.
Now they found that their incorporation was flawed because they had no way of enforcing their international treaties. In other words, they had not successfully incorporated the principles of international laws under Admiralty into the Articles of Confederation. So at that point they formed a new corporation and they had a new document which was called the CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES.
Now, the CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES took over and assumed the liability that was assumed by the previous corporation by the Articles of Confederation which assumed the debt that the 13 Colonies owed to the East India Trading Company.
So the Constitution, that everybody seems to be so worried about, was a filing of bankruptcy. The bankruptcy had already been declared. And the Europeans that operated on the soil of North America had come here under bankruptcy and it continued to be so.
Now, with the creation of the Constitution, there was a filing of the bankruptcy in the year 1789. Under the Anglo rules of Bankruptcy – a nation can go into bankruptcy for a period of 70 years. The main question(s) for the first period of bankruptcy was: WHO shall be the surety?—[the one that shall be responsible for paying the debt of the other person]. What can we use to secure the payment?—-(Basically, the debt was owed to King George through the East Indian Trading Co/the Bank of England was in existence then.)
Answer: It was the land. So, the land was liened-up against.
As was mentioned the bankruptcy lasted 70 years. So if you add 70 years onto the year 1789 + 70 = 1859, which would have been the end of the national bankruptcy if the debt was repaid. But it was not repaid. In fact, the debt was increased. As a consequence, a second bankruptcy was contemplated. But because all the land of the North (Northern States) was all liened-up, and there was no way to use it again for surety, they had to find a 'new' surety.
So what do you think the federal government in Washington D.C. decided to do? It decided to go out by conquest and seize all the free whole land that they could get their hand on in the South. As a consequence of that, approximately in 1860, or whatever, they concocted a new war, and they called it a Civil War, or rather, a “war between the States”, when in fact the States were not at war with each other. It was the federal government that was at war with the States.
And so they used the free whole land of the South as the surety for the second period of bankruptcy. They could not pay, and they had no intention of paying off the debt because they wanted to continue on in bankruptcy.
In 1871 new corporation was formed called UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. This new corporation went in Washington D.C., at that time there were 5 separate jurisdictions, and it consolidated the 5 districts of Washington D.C. into one. And from that, they formed a new corporation to assume the debt. Well, they did a poor job of it, as you can imagine.
Because it was by 1903, it was obvious that this new corporation would not and could not pay the debt. In 1913, they came out with something known as the Federal Reserve Act. Now the purpose of the Federal Reserve Act was what? Well, it was an attempt to try to deal with the bankruptcy. Under international law, if the people of the United States did not object to the Federal Reserve Act, then it became law.
Now, let’s add another 70 onto the end of the previous period of bankruptcy, that was the year 1859 + 70 = 1929. In 1929, the Europeans crashed the stock market in the United States and caused an artificial depression to occur, to force the people into a mold that they were trying to create. So in 1933, we had the Federal Reserve Act as law and the Federal Reserve came in. And everything changed. They got rid of the gold, people could not use it for commerce, and they started using a fiat currency.
And, inadvertently, or by designed, not exactly sure what is actual, as they went into this third period of bankruptcy, what do you think they used in that bankruptcy as the surety? It was the people. The people are the movable dirt.
The people now became the surety for payment of the debt. People are the movable dirt, i.e. property. That’s what you are. There are deeds out on the human flesh because we are considered moveable dirt. The only difference is that this dirt just gets up and walks around a little bit. But it is considered dirt.
So for this period of bankruptcy here beginning in 1929, it was the people that became the surety. But there was a principle in the Old Testament that was adhered to by the Anglo people. Which was the principle of slavery. Slavery is this, that if you cannot pay your debt, you can go into slavery and basically work it off. Do not confuse slavery with involuntary servitude. The African people that were brought here to North America were not brought here for slavery. They were brought here under involuntary servitude. Because you have to go into slavery voluntarily. Its not by conquest.
And so, the people in the United States went into slavery by their permission. Its true they did so in ignorance. But it appears the creator steps in and takes care of the matter. Because after the 70 years of slavery, the debt was paid. So if you add 70 onto 1929, you come up to 1999. Specifically, if I remember, it was November 6, 1999, when the slavery and the bankruptcy was over with.
So what does this mean to the people?
It means they can no longer be held as surety for the debt that was incurred by the East India Trading Company. If the people decide that they do not want to operate in bankruptcy any longer, they do not have to do so. In Canada it’s the same thing. The dates may vary slightly, but it’s the same principle that is involved here. The moment that you decide that you no longer want to be held in bankruptcy, you can simply come out.
And that is what I did. I am not a slave, because by my labor, I paid for the debt that was originally incurred way back when. So we spent a good deal of time, not just myself, but many others, have been going around teaching some basic concepts about what we call “Commercial Redemption” to demonstrate how you can come out of the bondage that you have previously experienced.
Now you do not have to come out if you do not want to. Most of the people in America, the United States and so forth, have decided that they will stay in bankruptcy for whatever reason, maybe its more convenient, or whatever, not quite sure of the thing. But the issue is: you cannot be held in bankruptcy if you decide to come out of it. And so the techniques and the technologies, and so forth, that we’ve been talking about here, and in other seminars, we have tried to give you the tools, the technology, the knowledge, perhaps the desire, to come away from what you have had to deal with from the past.
Most of the questions and situations that we have addressed for the last 5 years (2004), and since that time we have had a chance to visit and have gone around the U.S., and into some foreign countries (Australia & New Zealand), but what we have had to teach people is to how to come out of debt. Because in order to say that you are free, you cannot have a lien against you.
We start talking about “un-LIEN-able” rights — how can you exist with unalienable rights when you have a debt against it. And so most of the questions and conversations we have had over the years is to explain to people how they can come out from under debt.
Its like going to the doctor and telling him, “Every time I bend my elbow it hurts, what to do?” The doctor will say, “Just don’t do it. Stop bending your elbow.” Same thing as going into a bank and telling the banker, “Every time I go into debt I feel terrible.” Its obvious, then, what to not do.
So we are trying to understand how to live in a society that is based on debt. To try to learn how to avoid the consequences of those things. Then all the stuff we have been talking about, the tools we are giving to you, so you can alleviate the debt. We have been trying to take the debt off the people, we have been trying to take the debt off the land. And those things are very difficult to do.
We have met with a great deal of resistance from the corporate world. They are saying, “NO! We got you where we want you. We got you under our thumb, we’re not going to let you out!” And so in some instances we have had to resort to some pretty mean things, from time to time. So tomorrow we are going to go over how you can start to eliminate that debt situation.
Because remember, all the debt you are involved in is part of a fiction world. It does not exist in reality. Its all a fiction because of what? — The PREPAY. Everything in the PUBLIC is prepay. But there are a bunch of sharks and barracudas swimming around in the sea of admiralty here, who are relying on the ignorance of the people, so they can keep them in bondage, so they can keep stealing their sweat equity.
And so these are the issues that we have been trying to demonstrate. Those are the techniques and technologies that we have been trying to teach so you can overcome the sharks and barracudas. Because I can tell you right now that the sharks and barracudas have no intention of letting go. They have no intention of giving you up easily. So when you go out of here and try to use some of this technology, you are going to run into resistance — it's guaranteed!
Anybody here not run into resistance? —no…no…[from the seminar audience]
So, from time to time we will give you different tools with that regard. Sometimes it seems to go very very good, and other times it seems to go very hard. And so we are continually on the move, developing the background, so you can come in and rectify the problems when you have the resistance.
How we do it?
Its kind of like turning a shark against a shark. And that is what we have basically done because the corporations operate on the greed principle. So we make it very profitable for one shark to attack another shark. And that is what we are doing. As I mentioned to you, the IRS is my very best friend. Because the IRS operates on the greed principle. And I can turn them against any other corporation. And because they are so powerful, they will go and gobble them up. And they will not hiccup. They won’t blink. They will go and do it.
And so that is the technology that we have developed that is what we present to you and how to use those things to try to put pressure on the establishment to do the right thing.
Now remember, a corporation is created as a fiction. It is created for the benefit of a real entity. But when the corporation stops acting for the benefit of its creator, and starts to attack its creator, it has to be eliminated. And we’re having just a little bit of resistance sometimes, and then we start eliminating corporations because they get very exited. Because, it appears that the majority of people prefer to live that way. So we do have those problems from time to time.
Excerted from the following Winston Shrout video: https://youtu.be/23NSKpT9Vc0
My take on this stuff thus far is that he is the guy to learn this stuff from.
I am just on the beginning of the 6th video. I am taking a bit of a break from it today (too much time spent staring at a computer screen - my left eye hurts a bit).
Yes he did seem he had a rough start. I think its because people are at different levels of understanding on this stuff, and this determines how he will proceed. If you print off a copy of the topics list from his website, it may help to follow along with where he is going, and what video to go back and review the material that applies to where you want to go with this stuff. http://www.winstonshroutsolutionsincommerce.com/products/Kelowna07.htm
From his introductory comments on the first video, he has said:
"When you go out into the Public Law world - How to integrate your Private law with their Public Law. In order to do that you have to bring a BOND with you. This is the biggest problem people have had with regard to dealing with the Public.
You have to get things lined up before you over there into “their” the PUBLIC world. Because a BOND will help you in case you end up breaking some rules in that PUBLIC world."
So it seems having a bond in place is paramount for whatever, or wherever else you want to go with this.
In the 3rd video he discusses the idea he came up with for using the BIRTH CERTIFICATE as BOND SECURITY. This I understand to be that the BC gives your BOND the power that is needed for when you want the PUBLIC [judges, magistrates, police, etc.] to back off in their attempts to force you to do their will, for whatever situation that arises when you need to use it.
He goes into an explanation of why that Birth Certificate has such a monetary strength by using the analogy of Al Kapp's "Shmoo" found in the Lil' Abner comic strip. At (5:52) of video #3.
Once your bond(s) are in place then you can start moving around better. Start making use of AFVs and whatnot.
After getting through these video, I'll spend a bit of time digesting it, but I am already thinking to drop a chunk of money on the AFV trilogy stuff since that is said to be foundational to all of the rest of it. And I think that it would apply mostly to how I am living my life.
*EDIT*
He had mentioned in the Kelowna Seminar that the sample documents would be all on a CD that would be given to those that attended. I think this is the thing to get one's hands on so you can have good examples of how to make your own documents. Otherwise, someone at the Department of the Treasury will keep kicking your document(s) back to you until you got everything right. I just sent out an email to see if I can somehow get this CD with the sample documents on it. Will let you know what they say.
Later - turiya
I had some difficulty with my left eye for about a week's time and had to take a break from looking at a computer screen.
Lately, I've been wanting to know more about Winston's background. There is not much out there that pertains to what and where he has been. Got a feeling he was involved, or at least, had indirect links with some of the heavies that are presently doing in time, like Roger Elvick, Sam Kennedy.
I am getting ready to post some things I've found with regard to Roger Elvick. He's known as the creator of Redemption, only because he was slammed into prison, along with others (perhaps some of the Montana Freemen) that were, seemingly, conspiring to defraud the U.S. Treasury, or at least that is what the establisment (status quo) claim is.
Winston mentions in his Kelowna Disc #6 that some of the fellows he was working with got put in the slammer for some of the technology that wasn't quite right. He was talking with regard to a "Bill of Exchange" Quoted remarks from that video go something like this:
"Anyway, what we are looking at is a BILL OF EXCHANGE.—Exchange, we going to get something from one place and put it in another place. In order to do that what must we have to have?—INTERMEDIARY to do the exchange. A Bill of Exchange has to be funded somehow. You have to find someway to fund a Bill of Exchange. Because what was happening earlier on was some of the guys were trying to write Bills of Exchange with nothing to back them. They were trying to write them on Treasury Accounts that did not exist. As a consequence, they got thrown right in the slammer for check kiting."
From my studies of the Revenue Laws/Income tax, I've been wanting to know more of his background as it pertains to this. I know some of the earlier sovereigns were a bit misconstrued with regards to their understanding of the constitutionality of the so-called income tax. They believed it to be unconstitutional, which it is not (in my understanding), which had caused many people that followed these early patriots into being labeled "tax protesters", and many to enter into court with many various forms of frivolous arguments in that regard, resulting in jail time.
I've read somewhere that Elvick believed that because of the bankruptcy and the creation of the U.S. Corp. that that made us all employees of a bankrupt corporation, which he believed that in fact we are all actually the employers, and should be providing EINs on tax forms instead of SSNs or TINs. This I tend not to go along with. So it has caused me to try to resolve the confusion regarding this part of the Redemption and where Winston sits with regard to this. I think it will resolve itself the more I go through his lectures.
I do think he has discontinued his DVD(s) on 1099OID because the technology is proving to not be quite accurate... as of yet, and doesn't want to get folks in deep doo doo. I still have to look at what he says about this in Disc #8.
I am just getting back to the Kelowna tapes and looking forward to his discs 7 & 8 where he gets into UCC Financing Statement and the OIDs and banking. I am trying to transcribe much of the material so I have a written version to review, which takes some time to do.
And so it goes.
Later...
turiya