Let's start from a point of not knowing.
Question: Are these sterols common to all oils?
I would say yes in varying amounts.
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Then, you make an interesting point:
"they are making their gallbladder work by getting some oil in their system. This causes the gallbladder to contract keeping the bile from becoming stagnant, which does increase the risk of real stone formation."
You are describing the process, right there.
The gallbladder contracts. "keeping the bile from becoming stagnant". That clearly implies it is being forced out. If stagnant bile has created real stone formation. Then not only is the stagnant bile being forced out so is whatever solidified subtances have been created.
You have just contradicted your own argument.
Not at all. First of all the person would actually have to have gallstones to begin with, which is seldom the case. Secondly, just because some solids MAY be present, this does not mean they will pass in the liquid. It all depends on size. Most real gallstones are way too large to pass through the bile ducts even if they are dilated with the magnesium sulfate. This is simple common sense!!! If I drop a bowling ball in a water tank with a 4" outlet pipe and I try to flush the tank do you really think the bowling ball is going to pass through that 4" pipe?
How does a baby pass through the birth canal. It's SOOOO big.
That is a ridiculous argument. The birth canal is able to dilate large enough to allow passage of the fetus. The bile ducts can only dilate a few millimeters maximum. Some of the so called "stones" are considerably larger than the maximum dilation potential of the ducts. Some of the stones people have shown photos of are 50+ millimeters. Again, you cannot pass a bowling ball through a 4 inch pipe. Just like you cannot pass a REAL gallstone that large through a bile duct that can only expand a few millimeters maximum. When you can explain that miraculous phenomena please let me know.
Hveragerthi
You state that:
"What are being passed are not real gallstones. They are formed by a reaction between the sterols in the olive oil and cholesterol, which form an insoluble complex that looks like gallstones."
I just wonder if you know this to be fact, or if you have merely read it some place. That you so confidently make your assertion suggests first-hand experience and not just heresay. Please elaborate on your own experiences with these flushes.
Regards
First of all real gallstones sink unlike these so-called stones that are floaters.
Secondly, someone posted that they actually had these tested by a lab and foudn that they WERE NOT gallstones. So do you have a lab report to the contrary?
Liver flushes specifically brought me back to health. Don't know why, don't care. It is what it is.
And they can also force a real stone in the bile ducts where they can lodge and require emergency surgery. Funny how the promoters of the "flushes" fail to mention this fact.
There are simple ways to dissolve real stones and to support the gallbladder such as bitters, lecithin granules, avoiding estrogen and progesterone drugs and supplements, getting plenty of fiber in the diet, and making sure to get SMALL doses of good oils in the diet on a regular basis to prevent bile stagnation. All without risking a trip to the operating room.
I would be more inclined to think that fine sandy grit is what the liver/gall bladder is like to pass out. I fail to see how the relatively tiny ducts in the liver and gall bladder are going to pass out a lump the size of what that pictures shows (3.2cm). I think large lumps of green stuff are more likely to be the post digested remains of the olive oil and citrus juice. It just makes more sense.
I know when I did my flush, there were the green/grey lumps of stuff which had a clay like consistency. These seemed impressive at the time. Yet I recall there was also sandy grit like material, most of which washed through the callendar into the toilet bowel, and basically lost to further observation. It was like fine to gritty sand. At a guess, I would be more inclined to think that if something passed out of my liver/gall bladder then it was that gritty stuff, and not huge clay like lumps such as those depicted in the photos.
Don't get my wrong. I am an advocate of liver/gall bladder flushing, when it is called for. I am also an advocate of philosophical skepticism...
All the best,
Jonathan