I have skimmed through some of this stuff on this forum. Some excellent points have been brought up. I don't really have time for debate, but I thought I would post in case anyone would be helped by it.


It seems to be very dangerous to go to church these days. I finally stopped going and started seeking God for the truth myself. I just couldn't take it anymore. I knew something was wrong. God drew me out of the false. I am so thankful to Him for that. I assemble with the few like minded people I can find who are real Christians. I actually left the church twice. I was young the first time I left. I left because I became very confused about all of this, so I became an agnostic for years. When the Lord revealed Himself to me, that He is real and the Bible is true, I thought that I should go back to church. I found the church sicker the second time around. It had gotten worse as the years passed by. When I couldn't take it anymore I left again. This time I did not leave as an agnostic, but as someone desperate for the truth. It was God in His mercy who drew me out of this horrible mess called Christianity; oh, there is a real Christianity. It is that which I seek. Of course, I get a lot of criticism for leaving. These wonderful people that pack the churches think I am in rebellion and not putting God first in my life. They probably think I am not saved and are praying for my salvation. Millions of people pack the churches every Sunday and don't know they are on their way to hell. Why? Because they are worshipping another Jesus. They may have received Jesus as their Lord and Savior, but they do not know that the Jesus they received was not the Jesus of the Bible. They have been brainwashed by the false teachers who far surpass the real. Deception is everywhere.

"But I fear that somehow you will be led away from your pure and simple devotion to Christ, just as Eve was deceived by the serpent. You seem to believe whatever anyone tells you, even if they preach about a different Jesus than the one we preach, or a different Spirit than the one you received, or a different kind of gospel than the one you believed." 2 Corinthians 11"3-4. (NLT)

"That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am who I say I am, you will die in your sins." John 8:24 (NLT)

These verses make it clear that it is only the real Jesus of the Bible that can save. Many false ministers have created a Jesus in their own making. They have created their own God in their own minds for people to follow and people are buying into it because it is much easier to believe and more pleasant to their ears. They twist Bible verses to get them to believe them. Many go to church every Sunday and worship another Jesus that can not save them. They believe a false gospel. These people are not saved. These people are deceived. We have even been warned of this in the Bible.

The Bible says to test the spirits. Most churches today are filled with demonic spirits operating through people. They even operate in the supernatural to deceive people into thinking it is of God. They operate in what they claim is the gifts of the Spirit. The gifts of the true Spirit of God are real but the demons have a counterfeit to deceive. They have people stand to give them words of knowledge. They have done this to me. I found it amazing how right they were about my past, but the future never came to pass when it was a demonic counterfeit. I finally realized that the demons know my past but they do not know my future. Only God knows that. They told the truth about my past to deceive me into thinking that it was God speaking. They even speak in other tongues. The demons even have a counterfeit for that as it is also a true gift of the Spirit. This is why it is so dangerous to go to churches. Most of them are places where people are being brainwashed, lead astray, and interacting with demons. Oh, I think there may be some real ones out there, but I have no idea where. If you are giving ten percent of your income to one of these places, I advise you to stop. Find out what the Bible really says about the tithe for the new covenant which we are under. Learn to become a cheerful giver as the Bible teaches. Stop giving to these rich people to support their lavish lifestyle and further their false message. Give to the poor instead. If you are in debt the Lord just may want you to pay off your debt with all that money you have been wasting. I know that many of you have been brainwashed and will not receive this, but just try listening to some other teaching on this subject and see if it does not line up with the Bible. Just try googling "tithing + false teaching" and see what you can find. Here are a couple of good books you can search for on the subject:

The Tithe That Binds by Rory Moore This book is awesome and has a powerful testimony.

Tithing: Low-Realm, Obsolete & Defunct by Matthew E Narramore You can read this one free online at:
http://tekoapublishing.com/books/tithing/index.html


As far as keeping the Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown or Sunday depending on your beliefs) please know that there is nothing wrong with setting aside a day to rest and seek God. I'm sure this would help all of us. Yes, this is one of the ten commandments, but you must understand that under the new covenant the commandments that we are to keep are now written on our hearts.

"But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." Jeremiah 31:33 (NASB)

If you try to earn your salvation by keeping just one part of the law in the old Covenant you are bound to keep the whole law in order to be saved. We know this is impossible. So please do not bind yourself to this one for your salvation. Please read the whole book of Galatians for this truth. It is short and will be well worth your time. As I said there is nothing wrong with taking the time to rest and seek God, but there is something wrong with binding yourself to this for your salvation. Please remember that under the new covenant we are to keep a spiritual Sabbath rest every day. Read about it in Hebrews 4. This is the Sabbath that should be written in our hearts. We need to rest in Jesus every day. He is our Sabbath rest. We have a better covenant.

I have found one man on the Internet that seems to be closer to the truth than anyone else I can find. When I heard him I said to myself, this stuff that he is teaching is the same way I have believed the Bible to be saying when I study it on my own. I cannot tell you how I felt to know that there are others out there who feel that the Bible has a different message than what I was taught in church. This man actually believes the same way I do. Here is someone who is not twisting the Bible to serve his own purposes and build his own ministry. I was so happy and so relieved to think, "Wow! there is not something wrong with me". I thought I was all alone in how I felt. It made me wonder if my thinking could be wrong. Finding this little group made me realize that it was God who was drawing me to the truth. It was God speaking the truth to me when I read the Bible. It made me realize that my thinking was not the result of rebellion that so many so called Christians would like me to believe. The name of the website is:

http://apostasywatch.com


Click on the free audio and listen to some of it and decide for yourself. I would scroll down to the bottom and start with the "Other Audio Teachings." Next, I would click on the audio archive pages to give you an idea where he is coming from and how he was delivered from his own deception.

Ask God to give you a love for the truth that you would not be deceived. Ask God to show you the truth.

I hope this helps somebody.

Rainy