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The point of this debate is Humble, his claims, and the efficacy of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . We have tried to verify Humble's claim of his experiments in Africa, and have run into a brick wall. No proof, nobody has heard of him there. Tom and Bruce have run experiments and have proved that it isn't selective. We have anecdotal stories of "cures" with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , but ironically, after the cure, people continue to take it. And their disease isn't cured. So we know that either a placebo effect is taking place, or there is a temporary abatement of symptoms. What we don't know is the mechanism of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement in the body, or the long term effects. To ask for proof that there are long term effects is a naive approach. Perhaps the person asking that didn't think it through. There hasn't been a long term yet. The burden of proof lies with those that claim that this is a miracle cure. And the point of the debate is to show that Humble is a fraud, and has lied about the chemical. I believe that Humble himself has proved that. He has changed his story over and over.
Carol, you were the one that asked the question. Now let me ask you one. Are you still giving MMS to Barry, and how is he improving with it? Marlene has claimed it cured her MS, has this cured Barry?- Re: Clarification #98808
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Thanks for the clarification. Maybe you should suggest to admin that they change the name of the forum to the "Humble Debate" forum, since it is the man and not the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement that you are debating about. I wonder if back when Jonas Salk came up with the polio vaccine, people were more concerned about his religion or lack of than the vaccine itself. I guess we can all be thankful that there was no internet back then for people to try and defame Salk. Otherwise, maybe we would still be battling polio and its effects.- Re: Clarification #68716
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This is a reply to # 1,256,876Apples and oranges. Humble came up with the name Miracle Mineral Supplement. He also made pretty wild claims about it, and that's what we are debating. Not sodium chlorite, not chlorine dioxide, but Humble's product, protocol and wild claims. Sodium chlorite is a powerful anti microbial, and has many uses, ingesting it isn't one of them. Humble claims to have invented activating sodium chlorite with an acid, and he's wrong, he didn't invent it at all. He claimed that it would cure malaria, AIDS, etc, in a matter of hours. Didn't happen. In fact, most people are still taking it months later, and they aren't cured. Why is that? Because Humble didn't tell the truth, he made people believe that it truly was a miracle, and it just isn't. He also gets a dollar a bottle, and the last numbers that I saw, they were selling 10,000 a month. So if Humble is getting $10,000 a month, just because, and he also gets money for his book, my guess is that he's laughing all the way to the bank. And you guys are swallowing the stuff and hoping, having no idea what it's doing to your bodies. Jonas Salk didn't sell a lie, he was an educated man who knew what he was doing. You can't compare Humble to him at all. All Humble did was read the internet, and make up a story.
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how bout they change the name to "Silly comparisons" debate forum?
I'm sure Humble would like nothing more than to win the "Humanitarian of the year award"
There's nothing humanitarian about the way Miracle-Mineral-Supplement was introduced, marketed, and scammed across the internet.
MMS is fast becoming a failing internet scheme, supported by people who have a grudge against mainstream medicine, which makes your argument somewhat ironic.
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This is a reply to # 1,256,711The point of this debate is Humble, his claims, and the efficacy of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . We have tried to verify Humble's claim of his experiments in Africa, and have run into a brick wall. No proof, nobody has heard of him there.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,256,907mms sinking fast, isnt it jab?
I realize it's hard to face.
Let it go my friend, there's always Iodine and coloidal silver. - Re: Clarification whawk57
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This is a reply to # 1,256,907Sorry I think you are wrong Catlin. I have got private messages in my inbox and its incredible after I posted my thread in the support room. People who are having successes aren't going public here.They don't need to be attacked and abused. So there is a private circle going on in here and they couldn't care less about you debaters.
You had a 'live' chance to check some 'live' proof from otimus. But you didnt bother calling did you?- Re: Clarification #97461
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This is a reply to # 1,256,914ahhh, I was wondering when that old argument would come up. You know, the one where people are afraid of being attacked so they hide their responses. Hey hawky, we cant post on the support forum! Why are people afraid of posting there?
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Alright, whawk, I find several things wrong about that. If it's working, why not post it? How many people on the support forum actually read the debate forum. And for those of you that do, why? If you believe in this product, why would you even read this? To send private messages to you kind of defeats the purpose of the support forum, doesn't it? And if you truly believe that your right, what I say shouldn't matter, should it? But something keeps bringing you back, and maybe you need to ask yourself what it is. Is it a doubt in your mind that we might be right? That experts in the field of sodium chlorite might really know something that the gold miner doesn't? Doesn't it make you wonder when he keeps changing his story of how and why it works?
As far a otimus, don't worry your little head, it's in the works. And no, I'm not calling him. I check things out the right way.- Re: Clarification Otimus
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This is a reply to # 1,256,927so why did you ask for the numbers? Because you wanted to throw dust into people's eyes. To say no one can confirm. There is me to confirm and you say why call? so whats your real reason for discouraging people. I note you keep saying if it cures why do people keep taking it? tell me one main stream drug that cures? So that people once they take it never needs it again in their life? Most drugs need to be taken after re-infection or like Diaprim (main stream taken weekly to wad off malaria). Do your research and stop being so bias. People have tried and seen it works.- Re: Clarification #68716
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This is a reply to # 1,258,001I didn't ask for the numbers, I'm tired of wasting my time following leads that don't pan out. If I did call you, you would say the same thing that you type, so what's the point and where's the proof?
As far as comparing it with conventional meds, why do that? One has nothing to do with the other.
My point is that it needs to be tested to understand the mechanism in the body. It needs to be tested for long term effects. It's not a natural treatment, it's a caustic chemical. Oleander, OPC, like Tony told you are natural treatments. LDN has been tested and is safe and effective.
My problem is with the man himself and his false claims. If you believe it works for you, go for it, nobody can stop you. Where do you get the time or desire to argue on CZ?Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,256,914I know that I can vouch for quiet a few people who are using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement but would rather not post on a public forum. After several members of my forum started passing around sick emails that they had received from David after he read their posts on any number of forums, we decided that the best way to handle the problem would be start a private forum where members only members could read the posts. And if you think about it, who in their right mind wants to deal with sociopaths - people have enough to deal with on a daily basis without inviting more strife into their lives.- Re: Clarification #97461
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This is a reply to # 1,256,954ahhh, this after about a month of no activity on your public forum! And no activity on the failed forum before that one. Maybe the problem is you!
We can always count on you for drama, and lots of phoniness.
I'm surprised you even promote things like Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , seeing how mainstream you are.- Re: Clarification csb
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Duh - no activity because we moved and left you no forwarding address. And I'm not promoting anything. Just bored tonight so I decided to visit the resident looneys.
And how do you know how I feel about mainstream medicine? I don't recall ever having that conversation with you. But just to "clarify" my position. I'm for anything that helps - whether it be mainstream or alternative.- Re: Clarification #97461
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This is a reply to # 1,256,993Your forum has been dead ever since you started it. Making it inaccessible is your way of hiding that fact. Thats how you think, and thats why your forums dont work. You pretend to care, but its all a facade.
Your stance on mainstream medicine is quite obvious, your comments and posts say it all.
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This is a reply to # 1,256,954Well Carol I wish all you sociopaths great sucess on your new, hidden and secret forum where you can continue to hide the facts and pretend Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is healing. This now confirms the fact that when you go into hidding you already know it doesn't work. Best of luck!
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This is a reply to # 1,257,020No sorry but doesn't confirm anything.There will be a surprise!
And one day soon this debate forum is going to be wiped right off this site.
The debating days will be over.- Keep dreaming Whawk Your dreams may ... #89939 16 y 3,718
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This is a reply to # 1,257,105lol, it wont be a surprise.
The debating days ARE just about over.
There's really nothing to debate. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement doesnt work, it never did, it never will. It was all BS, more and more realize it now.
You're right, when the majority of people know the truth, there wont be any reason to debate it.
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