The reason I don't like the word God is that there is a lot of information attributed to God that was never said or done by the being of light I met in heaven. Once you figure this out, religion becomes much more challenging. You have to sepearate the darkness from the light. You realize that some large part of all religion is designed to enslave you. The breakthrough only comes when you find your own truth... find the Holy Spirit in between the words... start recognizing angels, ancestors, or spirits of light that are surrounding you. Start speaking straight to the source. It hard to see those higher vibration beings and the source of all light while we are struggling with their lower vibration brothers. The only way I can do this is by being in a quiet place and opening myself up to loving kindness. You say you have slipped into agnosticism again? I understand that. If I had to choose between religion's God and nothing, I might choose nothing. Nothing is better than giving up your hope to a being that crushes those who do not bow and worship him. That is not who the loving being of light I met in heaven is.
God who is made of love is just about loving kindness... Imagine if you had a child and your legacy was loving kindness but you were far away from your child. You wanted this to be the legacy for your child too but you could only reach your child through messengers. You lost your child but you wanted your child to come to you but if you are made of love...you can not look in places of unlove... you can't see through the veil of unlove...so through messengers you hoped your child could find you. The messengers who received your message of love only partially understood your message because they didn't understand your language of love but you do the best you can to describe how much you love your child and you describe your children of light can know who you are and how to get back to where they came from. By the time the letter or message you sent gets to your child, many of the words you sent through your messengers have been distorted, altered, and the intention misinterpreted. Through it all, some who seek to find you will wade through all of the unlove to find love but it is easy to be distracted. I hope you find your way back to love.
Sometimes I hear love in a song and know that I am getting close. Sometimes, when I am helping others, I know that somehow this that I am doing is what my loving mother/father would be doing. If you want to find a living fish, don't look on dry land. If you want to find the source of all love, don't look for love in unlove..
When I open my heart up to ask for help in finding my loving father/mother, I may ask through the medium of my religion but I know that I must filter out all unlove from the answers I receive. If you receive a message of love then it is from the being of light who awaits your return... but if there is any unlove in the message you
receive then it is from this world and this world will soon be fading away.
It doesn't matter how far along the path you are to finding your loving father/mother... Love will find you along that path one day. One day, love will not be held back from finding you. Whatever love you received and whatever love you gave... no matter how great or small are the bread crumbs that will lead the God who is love back to your soul.
Keep spreading love and even if you do not believe in a God anymore, it is okay, love believes in you and this is all there is when this sad and dying world is through. Give love when the world is bearing down on you. If you are paranoid it may be because you have lost your way but it may only be because someone told you to listen to voices and called them love that do not love you. Learn to listen to that quiet still voice of love... It is quiet and knows you as a loving mother loves a helpless babe. Listen for the voice that is the voice of a loving father who waits in great anticipation for your return. LOve is the space between words....thoughts... and deeds of loving kindness...
The greater loving being of light put inside of you a sphere of light... so everything the greater being of light can do...you can do also...You can find loving kindness by looking toward the light that awaits you and you can also find light by looking inside... Inside or outside... light is light... and you don't need eyes to see that light... and you don't need ears to hear that love song... and you don't need to feel that love to touch the source of all love... You just have to open yourself up to love and even when you see the messengers of God not loving or kind...
you will see through their unlove to find love... and when you hear the messengers of love speak in voice that does not love then you will know the difference and you can go on with your search... and when you discover that it is a higher love to love by
giving a helping hand than to depend on lovers to give you all of your needs then you
are getting closer to the source of love. It is not that we should reject every unloving thing as the body is sustained by consuming one another but rather that we should do as little harm as possible...love as much as possible... and follow to the best of our ability... the voice of loving kindness... In this way... we can survive as best we can in this world and not waste this life giving all of our energy to what will never survive this life.
I am never fully on the path of love except when I am still... As soon as I act... on my understanding of love... it becomes diluted by my selfish intentions... but to do nothing is to lose the reason why we fall into bodies... To love in the face of unlove may be more difficult but if we choose to concede to unlove then we will be tempted to fall again and again... so love when the world shows you unlove... To say loving words when the voices of fear surround you shakes the walls around you... the wold will think you are crazy but you will be calm... With your body...give a goodly portion of the energy you get from consuming physical food to nurturing the spiritual food of loving kindness for others and what you give in whatever way you gave will be given back to you...this is a rule that the villain who created time made... but in this way... when you give loving kindness in this world... you will have a greater portion of protection from unlove... and this world does end...and when it ends... all of the moments when you acted on those quiet and still messages of love... will be who you are when this world goes up in flames... and those times you loves in the face of unlove will shine on forever and beyond forever to timelessness so love in the face of unlove anyway... and joyfully laugh in the face of fear...and world will not know you but you will truly be on your way home...
Love...Light... & Joyful Laughter to you and yours,
Rudi,
I have read some of your accounts on here. I have been reading different accounts of NDE for a while now. I have a couple of questions for you. First, can a near death experience happen if you haven't actually died? Like if you were really near death. Second, what do you think of all of the different accounts out there? Some people swear up and down that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven and were atheist before their account. What do they have to gain from lying, but ridicule? I have seen tons of video's and read stories of people dying and going to hell! It really scares me. I don't believe they were making it up because some were atheist and mocked religion before dying. Also they did not believe there was such thing as a hell yet that was their experience. Also they can relate details to what family members and doctors were doing and saying while they were dead, showing their accounts were real and not something the brain made up as it was dying. When this happened to you, did you in any way doubt the validity of it? Also, did it enter in your mind for one second that it could have been an illusion from the devil? I'm asking this out of honest curiosity and not challenging you at all! I am asking because I see so many people having honest accounts like you, yet everyone comes back with different doctrine. Some say the bible can not be trusted and is man made, some say they went to hell for not believing in Jesus Christ, some say God told them there are many ways to God, Some say that the bible is the literal word of God and anyone that doesn't believe so will burn in hell. How can all of these accounts be reconciled? What is your take on this? It almost sounds like everyone is hallucinating something that seems very real but that wouldn't make sense since a lot of these people were brain dead and could give accounts of what family members were doing and saying while they were dead. When you spoke with the deity in your NDE, did he give you any type of assurance as to his authority? Did you know for a fact that it was God?
Again, please don't take any of this the wrong way. I am really wanting to know what your thoughts were as this was happening. Like did you think while you were in this God's presence that it's possible he wasn't the one true God or did you question why so many people have different experiences? Did you fear him at all for sins you may have committed? Did he tell you if hell was real or permanent if it was real?
but there is a God... who exists beyond time...
A God whom men never gave their power to ...
You can decide to play in time...
It is all up to you what you will do...
When I was a little child... I used to pray...
To a God who loved me no matter what...
When I was bad or when I was good...
I prayed to a God who loved me anyway...
I know what they said
At the temples where they read...
About an angry God who sat on a throne...
With flaming eyes and a face of brass...
but I prayed to a different God...
I prayed to a God who I had known...
before I was ever born...
No matter what they said...
When they rambled on...
I knew deep down inside...
That they were wrong...
When I was just a tiny little boy..
I was loved by love itself...
aND when you are loved by love that way...
You are really truly loved...
It didn't take a word of confession...
But I confessed anyway...
It didn't take a single thing I did...
Love loved me...
And love even loves you...
That is all that love can ever do...
It did not take'
A single word they read
It didn't even take words I said
Love knew me...
Love knows you...
No matter what we will ever do...
Love loves me...
and Love loves you...
That is all that love can ever do...
When I was almost 21...
When I had learned to hate...
I was filled with thoughts of a burning hell...
Somehow what never changes had changed...
The love of God was no longer for you...
Love had turned from love to vengeance...
Somehow I switched it all in my mind...
But I died...
But then...
I mean I really died...
God asked me if I learned...
The lessons of love///\\\///
As My car it rolled...
and rolled..
and my car rolled over again...
and the love that loves
That love I once knew...
Love was not through...
My body was dead,,,
My life was through...
But love gave me a message
And I will give it to you...
This is what love said to me...
With love you were made...
And Love it is true...
Whatever love you gave...
The love you do...
Whatever love you will ever receive...
Love returns to love...
All this love...
This is all that is you///
If you live your life...
Just for this world...
Only for time...
but time will end...
then time it will be...
all that you see
and all that you do,,,
Then time was made for you...
But time...
But time,,,
But time...
Time ends...
Is time all you have to give?
There is a being called "God" said in a hundred, hundred, hundred different ways by the bulk of mankind... and one does judge their own soul experience in the 3 D video of their life... I can tell you through all of this... I was not given all of the answers during the judgment... I had my own free-will to decide to stay in heaven or
return to fall back into this system of time...where my body burns...in a system of death and dying... and I did come back to hell... fell back into time/// I fell into a place where everything dies... but I will not make that mistake again...
Have you ever heard someone say... everyone does it so... why not you?
It easy to go along... but down deep in your soul... somewhere deep down below...
you know... The God of this world... where you have fallen in to... A mean version of a lesser God to who you swore your sayings to...and now they are done... but there is a chance... in your final hour... to turn from the fall... to quit falling into time... what will you do?
There is a higher love... greater than the lesser love that you fell for...
I hope my words... though they are distorted and not true...
will find their way to you///
Words can not say what I know...
I have said my sayings for years...
Read between the lines,,,
I only say what I must say///
I never received a dime...
for all my disjointed rhymes...
but somehow I know,,,
The lies that I say
may die at the end of this day,,,
but nothing I have said...
Was ever as true...
So I leave it up to you...
This song below reminds me of what one can you expect if all you do is live a life for what it can do for you...
Simon And Garfunkel
Leaves That Are Green
I was twenty-one years when I wrote this song.
Im twenty-two now but I wont be for long
Time hurries on.
And the leaves that are green turn to brown,
And they wither with the wind,
And they crumble in your hand.
Once my heart was filled with the love of a girl.
I held her close, but she faded in the night
Like a poem I meant to write.
And the leaves that are green turn to brown,
And they wither with the wind,
And they crumble in your hand.
I threw a pebble in a brook
And watched the ripples run away
And they never made a sound.
And the leaves that are green turned to brown,
And they wither with the wind,
And they crumble in your hand.
Hello, hello, hello, good-bye,
Good-bye, good-bye, good-bye,
Thats all there is.
And the leaves that are green turned to brown,
And they wither with the wind,
And they crumble in your hand.
So funny when I just read your post. I happened when I wanted my question answered to stumble upon a post in the biblical forum about how much God hates sinners etc in detail, and what these sinners are doing for him to hate them so much. I immediately felt like I wasn´t good enough while reading it, cause we are always doing some sin here and there, at least I am :-). Then when I read your post I felt much better again, I think I prefer the loving God instead of the hating God really. Did you ask God about this by the way, what you are now mentioning about the bible/scriiptures etc enslaving people?
I'm going to agree with Rudi here. Here's why. I have watched and read many accounts of NDE's too. In the judgement situation I think it is yourself that judges yourself. Anyone ever watch the documentary called "Decoding the Tibetan Book of The Dead"? If not I recommend that you do. I think during the process of dying you immediately when you step into the void start to get scared instead of relaxing. So you start to immediately create your own hell. It's hard to explain. I just cannot fathom a God that wants to condemn people and put them in the fiery lake. Sure the experiences are real to people, just like there is a real heaven and I'm sure there are tons of other real spiritual realms.
I also believe what Rudi says about the messages in the bible along the way have gotten so distorted and people have taken out of the bible here, and added to it there to suit their own needs and to enslave society into doing what it is morally just. I honestly believe that is what has happened. So will we ever know what God and Jesus really said? Yes. When we die. That's all.
serenity,
Do you know where I can purchase or download the documentary you were speaking of?
Does it give NDE's of those from Tibet? It's hard for me, when I take myself out of religion and the religious upbringing I have had, to understand why God would choose eternal hellfire as a punishment for those on earth that sin. A lot of people say that we can not understand it on earth because we fell in the garden of eden. So we only know how incredibly sinful something is when we go to the judgement and stand before God's perfect holiness. I guess that could be true. I still really have a hard time with eternal punishment for anyone.
I always knew there was a loving God beyond the man made God since I was little child. I just new it. I was dragged down into believing God only loveg people who believed as I believed, looked like me, and spoke in my language... When I was baptized, while I was coming up out of the water, a light opened up over me and Spoke to me as angels cheered,,, and God said; "He is set aside." I didn't know then nor do I know today what I was set aside for since age 11, but the voice was so full of love that I should have followed it... but I was being indoctrinated into a faITH THAT offers one light but then takes it away... and replaces the light with darkness... saying God's love was an exclusive deal... That it was only for those just like me....
I hated Communists, Atheists, Homosexuals, Homeless people, Liberals, Catholics.... because God hated them too...or so I thought as I had forgotten my very brief moment with God...
but even before then I prayed to a God who loved me and everyone... but there were two sets of rules... God loved only those who loved God...
After my NDE, I saw that almost human had a soul, and God loved everyone with a soul because souls are made out of God... and I don't know if you are a parent but parents love their children even when their children don't love them... If I had a child who was an Atheist who didn't even know I existed... I might show them hell(this world) without the protection of the soul... but when it came time to bring a soul home... there would be an open door... We all of us decide if we want to come home when we die... Some of us choose right away to fall again....back into hell... and for some we slink away and get caught up planning to return to hell with help of our ancestors... plotting and scheming... for our escape from perfect love to hell again... But I hope above hope that I have made my last trip to hell... I am ready to move on to where time has lost its spell... I want to see my family and friends... but only in a world where my flesh does not burn...
I am not saying I believe in reincarnation per sey but we give a drop of our soul to those who are to come... I am saying... There is a greater place to go than time... In timelessness... and I will not return to a world where men die...