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Invincible
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Re: It's always the essence of that ... pepe
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This is a reply to # 1,131,235"you can't just desire your way to transforming that"
Ahh but that is the beauty of the LOA is that you CAN do precisely that. The change will not come or need to be precipitated by the mechanical understanding of that which you keep harping on. The LOA does not require anyone to understand any of what you are alluding to. LOA answers ONLY to where you focus you attention on. That is the whole ball of wax. Everything that you are pointing out here is are just mental noise obstacles to the downstream movement. Each individual can only work through the capacities alloted to them by LIFE and an extremely small number of people even have the receptors to remotely comprehend the principles that you are trying to infer here.
The "uncovering" as you put it will simply come about from the desire to CHANGE and the actual ACTION of focusing your intentions on that desire irrespective of all the convoluted mechanics of what you are bringing up here. The outcome might no be a direct route to the intended desire but only each individual can know and find out this by moving downstream and none of what you keep trying to theorize here will result in the resolution or attainment of anyones desire or moving downstream period.
Badabom Badabin..............Elvis has left the building ..................;+D
- Re: It's always the essence of that ... chirontherainbowbridge
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,131,321"Everything that you are pointing out here is are just mental noise obstacles to the downstream movement."
In some respects, yes. But most of us live 'in some respects'
"Each individual can only work through the capacities alloted to them by LIFE.."
"allotted to them by life" , while it sounds pretty fatalistic, and "upstream" gets closer to acknowledging the fact of a karmic stream, of which this incarnation is one 'face' or mask. Waking up to the existence of a mask liberates the actor! And all this creation and manifestation IS acting.
"..and an extremely small number of people even have the receptors to remotely comprehend the principles that you are trying to infer here."
I wonder. I have a great enthusiasm for seeds. They appear to be doing nothing
(sometimes for ages) until they emerge, yet they have a life underground.
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- Re: It's always the essence of that ... pepe
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,132,430
In some respects, yes. But most of us live 'in some respects'
"You" can do whatever you like. What you are missing here is that this is a SUPPORT forum for LOA and NOTHING of what you are infering here is related to, nor will SUPPORT anyone in attaining their desires.
"allotted to them by life" , while it sounds pretty fatalistic, and "upstream"
Again as appears to be a reocuring theme in the majority of your posts you take a very simple statement and read all kinds of "extreme" meaning into it that only exists in your mind. This is just simple physics, math, genetics and as simple as some will have green eyes some brown some will be geniuses and some be violin virtuosos and some will be garbage collectors no more no less. THE END
I wonder. I have a great enthusiasm for seeds. They appear to be doing nothing
(sometimes for ages) until they emerge, yet they have a life underground."
This is just the OBVIOUS glossed over with allegorical verbosity which to me is the pretense of some to allude to a higher intellect and to me is simply missing the real beauty and simplicity of life and living in the moment and experiencing and living life as is. Not in some fantastical wasteland of intectualization or allegorising of the OBVIOUS which in the context of LOA is just NOISE and something that will derail the actual attainment of a persons desires and that is the point that I keep trying to make and staying on topic in a SUPPORT forum for LOA.
LOA is extremely simple and it is a road map from point A to point B that does not require any other understanding or convoluted tangents or any hardwired "spiritual" belief systems that are not in any way or form related to the actual action required to get from point A(now) to point B. The most allegorical thing that I can think of in LOA is that point B is never finite but just a point of focus that keeps one moving downstream.
- Re: It's always the essence of that ... pepe
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- "Being" and "having" chirontherainbowbridge
16 y
3,264
This is a reply to # 1,131,321I am not talking about as you say "that which you keep harping on". Nor am I referring to "beating the drum" (of being over here and wanting to be there),as Abraham puts it.
I am talking about *doing less creating and desiring (and getting caught up in all that activity of thinking/feeling what "I" want) and recognizing that there is much more to this limitless I than i can see. LOA as it's being heard is a bit like aboriginal peoples being given White Sugar . And, when you think about it, that's all of us, with the things of this world.
What I'm getting at is: there is a place for pure *Being-ness* that's central to LOA which trumps any limited consideration of LOA. And that is not generally being addressed by those talking the Abraham-talk. (Though I think Abraham *will* lead people to it, as people expand their views more and more, and eventually tire of "manifesting"). It's not the whole view to say we are simply here to manifest our desires. Actually, Jesus and other highly evolved realizers taught that we are here to recognize our True nature, to remember our origins, return Home and show others the way--to come to 'before the beginning'.
In a state of attention and simply Being,
where the pure witness can arise, and see beyond this "I, seeing" to seeing the seeing :-). THEN, awareness of ego-limited views are uncovered, they are just dropping leaves, and what's false and *stands in the way of "IT", can be more
easily let go.
Playing with attracting objects can be great fun and can increase a sense of power, but it may also keep one moving on a very gradual path--all the while being met with "contrast", etc. etc. I'm for the faster route. I don't want to just play. I want to
see the face of God, live that, and release all small consolations.
The wondrous thing is that the expression "if you want it you can have it, if you get out of the way" (that you hear in those early videos) is not (imv) mean to be taken as all the small "its". Not at all--yet it's been heard that way. And "getting out of the way" is what all the great masters taught--though not through *following* desires
(which are, in themselves, perpetual) but by stilling all desire, and looking AT the mind. There IS a place of Divinity, before thought. But you have to come to it, not imagine you can pull it to you.
Slight--and radical difference.
the Best to you all.
Alison- Re: "Being" and "having" pepe
16 y
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SIMPLE
IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!!
This is just more convoluted attempts to describe the obvious and even confusing the issue even more by bringing your own hard wired beliefs with an extra measure of confusing the issue even further with "divinity" and "god" yada yada.
LOA relates to the individual and what each brings into the game that is ALL of it. It's is ONLY through that individuals understanding regardless of any of these theories of yours that they will find a way to move downstream. AGAIN THAT >>>IS<<< THE WHOLE THING. Whatever choices are made to be of any value it will have to come from the individual based on what their understanding is.
There is nothing awry in your convoluted theories like the white sugar and the rest etc. That is just the way things are and you are just simply missing the boat by trying to >>>>convince others<<<< from your own hardwired belief system of how >>you<< think things are. Misery loves company............................
Relax, sit a spell take your shoes off......................
- Re: "Being" and "having" pepe
16 y
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- Re: It's always the essence of that ... chirontherainbowbridge
16 y
3,167
This is a reply to # 1,131,131
I have never gotten into books that are loaded with exercises that are essentially tests. I know many people thrive on them. Maybe it reminds me of the "make-work" stuff from school days, when it was clear to me it was just on about conditioning.
Now, an essay -- that I *can* do, believe it or not: I know it would appear not. Maybe another day. Still, I am looking forward to reading yours--I know it'll be succinct.
love,
Alison
- Re: Questions for all of you :-) pepe
16 y
3,327
This is a reply to # 1,131,222Swoooooosh boy did you miss that one------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>
The whole point of the exercise was NOT to give a test but simply to remind and help bring back focus to the actual purpose of this forum.
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I do this often. I have lived from a place of unconscious as well as subconscious thoughts. I continued to negatively create my life daily. LOL Thus the continuance of living unconsciously...until one day, I said "wow, this really sucks! Time to wake up and figure it out!"
2. When/why do you experience negative emotion?
I experience negative emotion when I feel 'vested' in the outcome. I experience negative emotion when I feel the 'need' to be in control. I experience negative emotion when I expect others to act as I wish they would. AND I experience negative emotion when I am NOT connected to my Self and Source.
3. What happens when you keep beating the drum about something that really bothers you?
hahaha, my my...good questions! Anyway...
It continues on manifesting itself, either in the same way or the same people OR if I somehow or the other get away from that, I bring in other people to manifest it. In doing this, it becomes a little different game YET in all reality, it is the same game with different players...my previous relationships LOL!
When the same drum is kept being beat, my life stays in the same 'stuckness'.
4. What happens when make a decision that the way you feel matters to you?
This I have not been able to release YET. When I make a decision that my feelings are involved in, I get caught up into the outcome. I am not an observer, I am invested. Consequently, then when (if) it does not work out as I anticipate, there is the 'beating self up game' or the 'poor me' game OR the 'anger game'. Also, 'letting go and letting God (Universe)' is much harder to do!
5. Give me 5 ways you (or anyone) offers/activates vibration.
1. through laughter (I went to a comedy fest on Saturday evening, past. I laughed my ass off! It was just GREAT! My vibration was phenomenal.)
2. through beauty (The cold in Michigan ultimately brings a blanket of white winter, when untouched is an awesome sight to see)
3. through connection (being connected to my son and enjoying his presence and silliness raises my vibration)
4. through music (I love good music. It moves my Soul.)
5. *this one is not coming through as easy :D* by golly! I've gottit! LOL... through inverting (lol apparently the blood flowing to my head, just makes me FEEL better!)
Now, I was going to read other posts first. I decided I would do this and then read. So, IF I am not original, then I guess WE are ALL ONE is a true statement~!...LOL
Love,
Beth
- Re: Questions for all of you :-) heartspirit
16 y
3,481
This is a reply to # 1,131,549Hey, Beth
I just want to say:
You are SOOOO gonna master your own conscious creation!
Just wait and see....well, there's nothing to wait for, you're already doing it!!!
Awareness is an important first step and you're there!
See ya!
P.S. A lot of our answers are similar...I'm gonna go read Monica's now.
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1. Can you negatively create with subconscious or unconscious thoughts?
Oh, yeah, baby. Definitely. Well you can create something you consider 'negative' because of unconsciousness. You don't have to be aware of it. Your vibration does it for you. That's the easy thing about LOA - just look at your life!! And you'll see what your vibration/beliefs are!
2. When/why do you experience negative emotion?
When: I experience negative emotion a lot of times when I'm not getting what I want or when something isn't up to my expectation.
Why: Um, maybe a bit trickier. I think it's a combination of not being able to accept my present experience and also my 'self' not being in alignment with a broader 'self'. This can be because my action is off-alignment, my thoughts are off-alignment or my emotions are off-alignment.
3. What happens when you keep beating the drum about something that really bothers you?
The experience keeps repeating itself in your life.
4. What happens when make a decision that the way you feel matters to you?
Then you start to take conscious action towards consciously creating your experience.
5. Give me 5 ways you (or anyone) offers/activates vibration
hmm, I may be a little confused but I'll answer what I think you're asking
1. you offer by your emotional state
2. you offer by your actions
3. you offer by your thoughts, kept privately or spoken aloud
4. you offer by what you focus your attention on in your experience
5. you offer by what you focus on in your imagination
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