If anyone else saw the post from Aye in the
Webmaster Support Forum today, (now gone), among
other things, one thing stood out, and that was
that there seems to be a lot of aliases out in the
posting community. One person, according to Aye,
was owner of 19 aliases. I know right now, there
is a current controversy in the Candida Support
Forum where one poster had 4 or more aliases and
was stirring the board. Recently we have also
had evidence that another poster was juggling
4 user names and I assume, as many anonymous
numbers.
My question is, why is this necessary? Is it
something that is conducive to building a
community of sharing, or is it merely a way
to rack up clicks or what??
Can anything be done about it, or is this just
business as usual and part of what we have to
put up with in order to participate here??
I am curious how others feel about this issue??
Is it important to have the right to rack up
aliases, and how does this impact your Curezone
experience??
Just my opinion but if the poster is'nt being abusive who cares! I know for a fact one of Curezones most beloved oldtimers has posted under four or five usernames and hurts no one in doing so ! I think aye hasher is just trying to stir the pot now that hes been exposed as an abuser! Many people liked Aye except those that where the target of his antics, unfortunately he just abused too many too often!
Hmm...maybe I can phrase this differently,
since for me, its not about Aye, although
his disclosure of the high numbers of aliases
AND the coincidental situation in the Candida
forum brought these thoughts to mind.
Certainly, for example, I am not so sure
how I feel about dealing with 3-4 different
aliases in the same thread. It makes me
feel stupid in a way that I may be trying
to make an argument or being used as a pawn
for someone's personal agenda in that they
may be for the issue, against the issue,
and neutral about an issue, all in the same
thread.
Is the old timer posting all of his/her aliases
at once??
As far as I know, you are just one person user name at a time. The thing that bothers me is having people use a whole bunch of different user names concurrently. I saw one post where the poster used five or six different user names in one thread. It was almost like (she) was asking for trouble. There was another recent post where a user name asked a question and the only reply was made by (his) user number. This kind of thing should be controlled. There may be good reasons for multiple user-names and the use of one's anonymous number, but, some people are going way too far.
Hi Ladies
Well that is what I mean by abuse! But isnt it so obvious when this is happening!
I can;t even imagine anyone having 17 usernames ,its ludicrous 'I can tell when someone is using their name and their number in the same thread, which is also illegal!
Imagine some moron going back and forth in one thread trying to keep thier usernames in order not giving themelves away! You'd have to have an ego and an agenda as big as ole aye her asher !
I dont know how people can fall for people like aye her ! I never trusted him from day one, the typicle guru wannabee and womanizer! Plain as the nose on his face!
Zoe the poster I was referring to has had so many names because of being banned, 12 or 13 now I lose count. I jokingly referred to them as 19th body because they have been banned in about every incarnation other than the current post and since first signing in as 9thbody. This particular one accuses me of being some previous moderator and at other times some doctor who is alleged to takes advantage of patients. At least once they have been banned for threatening me bodily harm, here ya go some of the incarnations of 9thbody are addressed here
It 's telling that two of the most banned posters On CZ are replying in this thread......and they aint yourself myself or Hopinso!.
Abwűn
"Oh Thou, from whom the breath of life comes,
d'bwaschmâja
who fills all realms of sound, light and vibration.
Nethkâdasch schmach
May Your light be experienced in my utmost holiest.
Tętę malkuthach.
Your Heavenly Domain approaches.
Nehwę tzevjânach aikâna d'bwaschmâja af b'arha.
Let Your will come true - in the universe (all that vibrates)
just as on earth (that is material and dense).
Hawvlân lachma d'sűnkanân jaomâna.
Give us wisdom (understanding, assistance) for our daily need,
Waschboklân chaubęn wachtahęn aikâna
daf chnân schwoken l'chaijabęn.
detach the fetters of faults that bind us, (karma)
like we let go the guilt of others.
Wela tachlân l'nesjuna
Let us not be lost in superficial things (materialism, common temptations) ,
ela patzân min bischa.
but let us be freed from that what keeps us off from our true purpose.
Metol dilachie malkutha wahaila wateschbuchta l'ahlâm almîn.
From You comes the all-working will, the lively strength to act,
the song that beautifies all and renews itself from age to age.
Amęn.
Sealed in trust, faith and truth.
(I confirm with my entire being)
lol! I was banned for being too honest in my replies, no other reason ,nothign I am ashamed of, not for slitherin around with more then one user name at once gaslighting people, 9th bodi aka ayehasheria ! Neither have I ever tried to con somebody into thinking I was someone else! Besides my name was brought up first , therefore I must respond!
Im thrilled you where exposed Aye, I always thought you where a snake in the grass! Another wanabee guru bites the dust lol! Funny though I always thought you where a chubby little white guy who needed a women to hold his hand!
from only one name and several people able to log on, if I had to guess by some of the posts it is one of your female other sides
Certainly no Harold
So while you have not been banned which you should given your real life behaviors if Ptree is to be believed you should be in court right now
Or it is all as 2everything says it is drama live theater
Then the medical advice seems dramatic also, such as dosage and claims of support by other known experts in the field of cancer etc
What ever the truth it's shady either way
And the break in to my computer gave you a lifelong detective that being civil and no hiding a question like "How does one get an R in 4 seconds" certainly doesn't need to be hidden, it is a question
Answer? when one gives one to themselves?
Freedom, Freedom except when....All those organizations you EXPERTS point the finger at, I see the same behaviors here
That's enough of your talking about me! You are completely out of line! If you have a problem with anyone here, you need to address it yourself and leave me out of it! You made a comment in your other post in this thread in reference to me, and I have no idea what "Karmic actress" is supposed to mean. There has been absolutely no 'acting' on my part with anything that I have shared on this website. I certainly can't say that for everyone else! Although I know that I have done nothing except speak the TRUTH as I have experienced it!
As far as your statement, "...if Ptree is to be believed you should be in court right now...", allow me to enlighten you about my current situation! I am up to my hairline in all the things that I am dealing with, and I have much bigger fish to fry than the likes of Harold, Anthony or whatever his name is! I am presently staying in a very tense environment with an angry, abusive, pumped-up ex-boyfriend in order to have a roof over my head so I am not living on the street or in a shelter somewhere! And, yes, I have been in a shelter since I was hospitalized, thanks to my mother! Would you like to hear what's it really like living in a shelter? I actually left the shelter and stayed in my car for two nights in the freezing cold because the shelter was so horrible! And, yes, I plan on writing all about it, along with a few other books that I've started, when I have some spare time and am not just trying to survive! I am unemployed, utterly broke, have an overdrawn bank account, and I have much bigger legal matters to address than going to some damn small claims court! And I've posted about some of it on several of the forums, although there are only a few people that have actually responded and offered any assistance (and to them and Dusan - I am most grateful!)! I still have a bunch of my belongings at my mother's house, including things I want to sell. However, I'm not sure if I even have enough gas in my car to get there and back, not to mention that I don't have any money for storage or a safe place to put things. I'm basically living moment to moment and doing whatever I can to remain positive in light of all that I'm going through. Frankly, I'm truly quite happy to be alive given all that I have been through!
And for anyone who casts judgement on me and the choices I'm making, we can trade moccasins! I would love to see you walk in my shoes for just one day! Keep in mind, though, that you would have to do your walking with a smile on your face, your head held high, and still be of service to others in any small way!
Dear PTree, I wish I had something more concrete to offer you, but I want to know I will be praying for you. I spent this morning contemplating suicide because I am so over whelmed by pain, illness, poverty and loneliness. I am at the point of feeling there is no way out anymore. Then I read your story and realize I at least have a roof over my head, although the bank may try to get it soon if I don't get my income tax refund so I can pay on the mortgage. I do have a job and do not have to deal with abuse.
I admit to being very confused at some of the things that have happened since you "left" Curezone and then re-emerged in different personas. Still the dear lady known as PTree has always been a good friend and supporter. It sounds like you have been through a hell that very few of us can even begin to imagine. I pray that you will soon find the answers and the means to support yourself independently. I pray you will find peace in your mind, soul and body. I pray that all those on Curezone who thrive on trashing people when they are down will have the simple decency to leave you alone as you struggle to regain your life. Finally, I pray that this nightmare will soon end and you will emerge stronger and wiser and will be able to use it as a tool with your precious gift to reach out and help others in need.
I appreciate any good thoughts and prayers that you or anyone else has for me, and also any assistance that is offered in any way. I am sorry to hear about the difficulties that you are having. Sadly, they are shared by many at this time, and people are suffering from incredible despair. Please know that suicide is NEVER the answer, and that there is always a way out of a challenging or dark situation! Do whatever it takes to feel better and see the light at the end of the tunnel, and know that it is NOT an oncoming train! Think about Superman! Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive... Hey, I have even had moments that I felt like I was standing next to kryptonite, and the energy was so strong it nearly pinned me to the floor! Although women can also be Super Heroes, and frankly, we have the power to bring forth life itself so we actually have an edge when it comes to the power of our energy. Women just need to realize this for themselves, and not by into all the ways that we are oppressed. And if any of what I say sounds grandiose or bitchy, then so be it! I could care less! We all need to remember where we come from, and honor the strength of the feminine energy. Just take a look at Nature and you can see it for yourself. Mother Nature is not a force to contend with, and we had all better start realizing this!
I am glad that, in sharing my story, you and others are able to feel gratitude for what you already have. I, too, am grateful to have a roof over my head even if it is not an ideal situation at the moment, and I look for anything that I can to remain positive about. There is always someone who is who is suffering more than we are, and there is always a way that we can extend ourselves to be of assistance. Frankly, I have been most deeply saddened that some of the very people and places that I turned to for help, including a couple of religious institutions (and one being my a former 'alma mater'!), turned me away and left me to fend for myself. I actually got more assistance from a woman in a gas station who offered to take me for lunch and then handed me money and a phone number for a homeless shelter! And our own Webmaster, Dusan, came through for me at a most critical time! The point to this is that, even when and where you least expect it, there is also always a way to rise up from any challenges that you might be facing. You just have to allow the love to keep flowing and completely trust that things will change. And the one thing that is certain in the world of matter is that everything changes! As bleak as anything might seem at the moment, it can all change in an instant! As for me, I KNOW that things are turning around, and that there is a very different life for me on the horizon! And I am taking the steps that I need to in order to manifest this for myself.
As for my different identities at CureZone, I had reasons for each of them, which I don't have the time now to explain. Although, I will say that I never tried to hide who I was, and if you read all my posts carefully you can clearly see that everyone of them was me. Some might wonder why I even spend time on CureZone given my situation. CureZone has been a very significant part of my life in a number of ways, and I use it as a platform to both be of service in any way that I can, and also to gather support (like you have given me), information, and a way to very publicly broadcast myself. And it has also been a great source of comic relief, lol! I am very grateful to Dusan for allowing me the opportunity to be a part of the CureZone community, and my hope is that we all find a cure to whatever is ailing us! I don't concern myself much with those who attempt to undermine me. They are the ones who have the problem, not me! And I utterly trust that the Universe will take care of them appropriately. I only hope that they will come to their senses before they have to suffer too much! I know that there are people who judge me, who think I'm crazy, who laugh at me, and who would relish to see me miserable so that I can join them in their own pity party, and so that they can feel better about themselves. NOPE, SORRY... I WILL NOT OBLIGE THEM! They will just have to find another outlet for their nonsense! Hey, what can I say? I KNOW that the force is with me, lol!
And now, I have to get back to work and put together some more correspondence with some Native American spiritual elders. The Manataka American Indian Council has yet to honor a very simple request that I made, and seems to think that I have all the time in the world to read through volumes of information on their internet site. They, too, offered me prayers on their sacred mountain. And while I am also grateful to them, they don't seem to yet realize that there are major forces at play that are apparently beyond both our comprehensions. I, for one, do not believe in coincidences. And there are simply too many things that line up with my entire life and so many of my experiences to continue to ignore them! How ironic, for example, that I should learn today about the connection with Native Americans, the Mormons, and the fact that my first amendment rights were violated in a 7-Day Adventist Hospital, which is actually an outgrowth of the Mormon religion! And that the attorney that learned of from a 2yo magazine while in the hospital and whom I contacted within the last few days has a strong connection with Sacagawea, a Native American symbol of peace. Or the fact that years ago I found a crystal knife in an antique store that I have recentlybeen told is the instrument of a Native American healer. Or the fact that an eagle feather fell out of the sky in the middle of Chicago, and that I used it for a few years to fan the smoke from a burning smudge stick to purify my environment, not to mention my collection of other bird feathers. Or the fact that I had one of the symbols of Manataka tattooed on my wrist. Or the fact that I received a sign to contact a Sioux Chief when I didn't even know that the Lakota were members of the Great Sioux Nation. Or the fact that Joni Mitchel's song, Lakota, just started playing on my CD player when I asked aloud, "Which tribe am I from?!" when I was spontaneously doing a ritual at home just prior to my hospitalization, and laughing to myself because I reminded myself of a Native American. Or the fact that I had previously attended two sweat lodge ceremonies with a man who was preparing for the Sun Dance, and I have recently learned that this is a Lakota ceremony. Or the fact that my very best friend and soulmate is actually a Native American himself. And I could go on and on and on with all the synchronicities and serendipities that have occurred and are related to this throughout my life. Even my childhood dreams are of significance, and I will share them one of these days after I have described them to the Native American spiritual elders.
Yep, there is no doubt in my mind that these are not mere coincidences that should just be dismissed! And hopefully someone will get the word to Chief Avrol Looking Horse and Kristine Huskey that I need their assistance. This is as much about them as it is about me, and it's rather frustrating that when people just won't listen to me. I suppose I should be used to it by now since I was practically invisible as a child! Although... I WILL NEVER SHUT UP! *lol*
While trying to pray for you earlier today it came to me that the different personalities you were posting under were probably different aspects of your total being that you needed to draw upon during difficult times; a sort of cyber-splintering of the whole in a sense. The strong, but somewhat arrogant Sara's Sister was my least favorite, but, I can see how you needed her strength and independent spirit to keep you going. Patty's child-like wisdom and exasperation at the grown-up world was also apparent. The introspective Joni was less prominent but also made sense. There were a couple I did not understand, but I am sure you needed them at the time. I am not asking you to explain yourself, the action is yours alone. However, I was not very nice to Sara (nor was she nice to me), but I think I can understand where she was coming from.
Hopinso - Once again, I appreciate your sentiments. I do, however, want to make something very clear. And keep in mind that this is not only directed to you, but also to anyone who may be reading my posts. As I have already stated, I was quite open about the differnt usernames that I used and they were not used to deceive. I was the very same person when posting with each one of them, and there is no fragmentation of my personality. I am all of those aspects and then some! I left CureZone as PTree because I was making some major changes in my life, and also wanting to distance myself from some of the nonsense that goes on here at times. I had also decided to have my own forum, and was waiting for Dusan to create it, and started posting with a different username in the interrum. I was in the process of setting up an online counseling service just prior to the recent events in my life. And I, as a licensed clinical psychologist, have to be careful in making suggestions or giving advice as it could be interpreted as my providing psychological services and causing me to have a professional responsibility for people that I simply was not willing to except with anyone on CureZone who wasn't my client. I also didn't have the time or the energy to continue functioning as a moderator. So I decided to stop posting as PTree, and took on different usernames with the intention that I could use them for different purposes. As they say, $hit happens! And my plans changed as a result of everything that has transpired. The forum that I now have is different than the one I was going to have, and my whole life has turned upside down!
With regard to Sara's Sister, it was quite obvious to me that the problems people had with that username were directly related to the avatar that I selected. And I was amazed that some people, perhaps not having yet caught on that it was me, posted some of the comments that they did! For crying out loud, it was just a photograph of an actress in a character role! How crazy is it to assign the attributes of an avatar to the person that uses it? Am I to believe that you really walk around with a bag over your head? Of course not!
And quite frankly,I found it most alarming that people were so up in arms about a photograph and a symbol that they were discounting some of my posts. The U.S. is in a great deal of trouble! People ARE losing their liberties left and right! And this is NOT some lunatics Conspiracy theory ramblings! THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME!!! With no cause or provocation, I was forced from my home by the police and emergency workers, I was involuntarily admitted to a psychiatric facility, and my Constitutional rights to practice the religion of my choosing and to have the health care of my choosing were violated! I have lost nearly everything that I have ever worked for; I have no home, am completely broke, am unemployed, and am surviving day to day!
And yet, when I have posted about the violation of my Constitutional rights, there are only a small handful of posters who respond and express their concern! I just shake my head sometimes when I read some of the posts on this site because I see how insane it is for people to worry about some of the petty things that they do. And while this may sound insensitive or arrogant to some people, I can tell you without a doubt that what happened to me can happen to absolutely anyone! And I simply don't have the patience any longer for people who hide their head in the sand or who aren't alarmed that this sort of thing can happen in the U.S., of all places! If people were so damned upset about Sara's Sister's avatar, they should be really outraged with what I have just endured! That avatar was from a fictional movie. What I just went through was like the tactics of Nazi Germany, and it is my very real life!
One thing that I know for sure, if people don't wake up, start speaking out, and start taking action to protect themselves and their rights we are very rapidly headed for horrors the likes of which the world has never seen! If people thought that the Nazi's were evil monsters and that the holocaust was hell on earth, they haven't seen anything yet! And for anyone who thinks that I am exagerating, just do some research on recent weapons developments! Here's a start... Google Active Denial! And then consider the name that was picked! And while you're at it, read up on tasers and understand that there are now weapons that essentially take over your body so that you lose all control! And these have already been reported in the mass media, so you can only imagine what is going on that is classified!
with some other twists and turns which CZ inadvertantly has added to
I do not know about that last littlebit
But as I have stated
there is something awfully wrong with a lot of the goings on
Half the population vibrating with love, but do they have compassion?
Not for me to say
They certainly are not on the street
But I will say the poeple on the street who are vibrating with Love are considered mentlaly illby their caseworkers
It is so danger ous out there that vibrating with love is considered mentally unblanaced by even the homeless
It is frightening
And yes my friends it can happen to you
and I'm pretty sure weapons will not advance your cause nor protection
I think sistar sara was very clearly you, so if ones were critical they morst likely knew it was you
CZ loves their power to kill off and destroy
No two ways about it
A lot of EXPERT Males
A Lot of Egoic formations
the art of power
I am happy to see you understood ethically that posters are not your patients
and therefore advice given could be construed as professional advice based
on your license?
But then at Challenger Christmas you were more a counselor not a doctor?
so they were not patients
But maybe in some form clients are patients
Some of those bible belt Chrisitians have so much "being right" in the name of the Lord
that they have a kinda Bushism attitude
With us or against us
That is not a choice but a threat
or perhaps a promise?
It's Challenger, Gray & Christmas, and I was called an outplacement counselor. However, a more appropriate title would have been an outplacement consultant. They are a the original outplacement company with a corporate office in Chicago, and they have nothing to do with any sort of health care whatsoever. I trained mid-upper level executives in how to conduct a job search after they had been terminated for whatever reason. They were clients, not patients, and I was not functioning as a psychologist with them.
Regarding multiple usernames, I just posted about this in response to Hopinso and I would suggest that you also read it.
Regarding Aye.. Of course I wouldn't have a sexual relationship with someone without knowing their name and also getting to know them for a period of time! The reason that I said "Harold, or Anthony, or whatever his name really is..." is because I knew him as Aye, and he told me that his name was really either Anthony Harold H. or Harold Anthony H., and I don't recall which came first, and I relied on him to tell me the truth, and who the hell knows if he was honest about his real name or not?! I didn't check his ID! As I said, I knew him as Aye here on CureZone, and in the numerous emails we exchanged, and on the phone, and after we met in person. My decision to become intimate with him was not one that was made impulsively and I do not care for the manner in which you are portraying it!
Regarding my current situation, I have reached out to people as best as I am presently able. Consider this... I have no money, I have about 15 minutes of time on my Cell Phone , I am staying where the land line does not have long distance, is also not working right, and does not have any sort of answering device, plus the owner frequently turns the ringer off because he has his own Cell Phone , I have just downloaded Skype, although I haven't had the time to figure it all out yet, I have less than a quarter tank of gas in my car, I have an internet connection although I am certain that my computer is hacked (it even shuts off by itself!), I am swamped with work emailing attorneys and other people involved in this situation and sometimes lose work that I've done because my computer shuts down, the personal belongings that I have left are scattered between my mother's house and where I am staying, it is often challenging for me to find things, and there is simply not enough time in the day for me to do everything that I need to! There is NOTHING about poverty that I don't now understand, and most people don't realize that while there may be all sorts of services available to people, it requires that they be able to get to them!
Also, it takes quite a bit of energy to tell people over and over what I have been through to try give them an accurate picture of what has occurred and to ask for their assistance. This is not a problem when they are willing to help me, although it is rather taxing on me when they are not. I simply do not have the time and energy to waste! In an effort to start bringing some money in I designed some wristbands that are now posted on CureZone thanks to Dusan. I also have some other designs that I want to do, although I have yet to be able to produce an image in order to submit for them. I've also been working very hard on putting together a written account of the events that occurred which I spent about 12 hours on in the last day, and now I am posting a few messages on CureZone because I have not been on the site for a while and would like to address posts and work on my forum.
I acknowledge that I am not the best about asking for help. I am very independent and a do-it-yourself kinda gal, and it is somewhat difficult for me to reach out for assistance. However, in this situation I am asking anyone and everyone if they can be of assistance in whatever way possible. This is NOT just about me, and I am doing what I can in order to derive meaning and benefit from what has happened to me, not only for myself, but also for others who may not be able to speak out! I also have to be very careful in all my communications as I know very well that everything that I do or say will be subject to scrutiny, and that is not the most comfortable situation, particularly when I am having some of the spiritual experiences that I am and I know that the vast majority of people would not understand. Neverhteless, I wouldn't trade them and it is a small price to pay for what is unfolding for me. And it is not a single flower that is unfolding, it is a whole damn garden, lol!