The myth about gall stone flushes. 
#88809
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I am a biologist and am very interested in the subject of gall stones.
I had a problem with gall stones due to the amount of alcohol i was drinking just over a year ago. Worrying about the pain I was getting over my liver and the fact I was passing grey coloured stools I researched and realised I had Gallstone problems.
Looking on the web, I searched for answers to my problem in fear for my life, and came across the gall bladder flush information found on this site as well as others.
I also came across other sites about the fact that the gall stone flush was a myth and the resulting flushes you get are from the olive oil chemically changing in the body. Thus producing the so called gall stones.
I am writing this post to put right what some people have said to be untruths about Liver flushes.
This I am taking from my own experiences.
I performed my first flush in January 2007 and was gob smacked by the results.
Hundreds of large and small Green and yellow objects floating in the toilet.
I managed to get the largest one, that was about 1 1/2 inches, that I placed inside a container.
Since then I have performed six more flushes with vairing results.
Now to ask all those Doctors out there some questions.
If Liver Flushes did not work, as the medical field states then why...
1. The stone I kept was tested and found to be Bile.
2. The pain around my liver and gall bladder went away right after the flush. (although it did come back a couple of weeks later)
3. Someone tried putting dye into the olive oil which was not present inside the stones when passed and cut open. (mixable with oil)
4. People including me have experienced quick and major changes in their body after (such as rings around eyes going, and spots no longer forming etc, major increases in energy)
5. Passage of liver flukes
6. If the stones were really olive oil, then why do they stop appearing after several flushes even though your still taking olive oil then?
7. Why stools return to normal colour or gradually return to colour after (providing a good diet is kept to.)
There are plenty of other issues that i would like people to post here.
After the Liver Flush I have been taking the following.
Multi vit's
Cod liver oil (high strength)
Magnesium+Calcium
Zinc
Iodine (kelp)
(+ managing a good diet)
Now things are good, although I still get a little problem If i drink too much alcohol say over the weekend.
The main point I want to say is.
Doctors look at old medicine as a myth unlike modern drugs or medical procedures.
Yes some old medicines don't work but as there is such a large number of people who have tried Liver Flushes and have benefited from it, all it now takes is one scientist to do some research and trials on such a simple procedure for it to become medical fact, not fiction.
If anyone on this site has gall stones that have been scanned in their body. I wonder what the doctor would think after they have done a Liver Flush and repeated the scan?
If anyone would like to argue this, as a Biologist myself I would like you to post a message, as comparing notes are always the best thing. (Using seen and experienced knowlege rather than medical theroy without a basis on facts.)
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- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... plzchuckle
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This is a reply to # 1,076,187
88809, I don't know about the others, but I'm sure glad you're here! Apparently someone else is also from the RRR this post got!!
My mother had gallbladder surgery before I became ill with my liver. I'd seen gallstones straight out of a gallbladder ... huge ones, over 1" in diameter. Flushing, I saw that I had ones just like that as well as the pea green, pea-size ones.
I tumbled out of my attic 13 months ago yesterday and found gallstones in my toilet within 12 hours ... NO OLIVE OIL OR GRAPEFRUIT JUICE ... I KNOCKED those suckers out in the fall!!!!
I had help in formulating a gentle liver flush that I call the Plzchuckle Hot Lemonade Flush. ! tablespoon of evoo and 1 lemon and I've passed very old stones that I had felt moving down throw my liver for elimination.
Need I say that I'm fed up with the soap-stones theory?
Now ...
A hobby researcher challenges the PRO to do some study of your own. Multivitamins ... I want you to take a long hard look at "isolates" when it comes to vitamins and what you're doing to your body.
Do we need vitamins? ab so lute ly !! raw fresh organic foods, wholefood supplements, superfoods ONLY if you want it to work and do no damage.
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- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... #88809
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This is a reply to # 1,076,219MMM very interested in the Plzchuckle Hot Lemonade Flush. Wonder if this is as good as the normal Liver Flush or better.?
How many did you pass using this method?
I know each time i used the olive oil+grapefruit method with Epsom Salts I passed at least 200 each time ranging from a good inch to small pea size.
This happened three times and on my last attempts only one or two small ones plus the usual grit material.
Noticed that since taking Iodine my levels of energy have increased and stools are darker and more natural in colour if not back to normal.
I think the Liver Flush had depleted my mineral and nutrient content in my body.
A good diet is a must and I think that everyone MUST be ready to keep to one after the flush.
Also, I would say that it would be a good idea to keep to one flush every two weeks. NO more than this as it could have an effect on mineral levels in the body.
- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... plzchuckle
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This is a reply to # 1,077,165
You can use the search function on the right corner and find the Plzchuckle Hot Lemonade Flush. Dennis Hardy ND at the forum of the same name was my buddy before he ever came here. He fussed at me for all the flushing I was doing, and that was only every 4th week (I had suffered malnutrition from not digesting food for months before I started this and my body couldn't take 2 week flushes ... messed with my electrolytes would be my guess, I didn't have much in reserve). I kept flushing anyway ... pain will make you ignore good intension.
Dennis had posted the 8 oz orange juice, 1 table spoon of evoo and pre-flush steps etc on his forum. I was already drinking the hot lemonade in the evening to soothe my liver and to get off the 5 pots of coffee a day habit that I'd had for years. I asked him if he thought hot lemonade would work just a well, he told me to go for it, it was citrus. I'd had my first stone free flush and didn't see any stones in the next 4 or 5. In late summer, I felt that old familiar pinching in my liver that I recognized as a stone moving and sure enough, the next day I began passing stones again ... only maybe 5 or 6 and not all at once like doing a HC flush, but come out they did and w/o a bit of problem. Dennis recommends cayenne as the dialative instead of epsom and one doesn't go through the buttpee (as I affectionately call that stage of liver flushing).
I recommend that everybody do HC flushes to start with to get a good visual on what they are accomplishing with flushing. Anybody that absolutely can't take it can use the gentler flushes, but need to know they are in for a long haul, even with corrected diet and good supplementation ... gentle flushes are just that ... GENTLE ... HC protocol is rugged by comparison, but definitely worth the results!
I'm taking MHs plant iodine/potassium tincture presently ... my glands under my chin have gone down noticibly, my sleep time has increased to a minimum of 5 straight hours (I have fibro and could fall asleep anywhere and anytime, but get in bed at night, I might be awake in 45 mins and every 45 mins all night long) ... somedays, my energy level is real good (other days, not so much so, but with the liver pain gone and it healing, I'm now aware of how seriously ill my right kidney is ... sometimes it seems to take the wind out of my sails) ... my bowel movements have darkened perceptively, but I'm having a bit of trouble with very mild constipation, nothing like in my lifetime past, don't know if this is the iodine, the kidney or my lousy diet for the last 4 months ... I thought I'd gone pain free with FCBD until I started taking the iodine, this is what breast are suppose to feel like! a total unawareness of them.
Hanna tells people "wait til plz gets here, she'll tell you about food" ... "let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food" that and Genesis 1:29. Food can cure you or kill you and it's certainly your choice. I mostly eat raw, organic fruit and veggies ... green smoothie does a body good!!! Unlike milk. Unfined, cold-pressed oils are a must to be healthy. I distill my own water, I don't drink a whole lot of plain water ... hot lemon or limeade ... organic juices ... herbal teas ... falling off my wagon has me drinking a bit, maybe 2 cups of coffee a day right now ... I will be starting a juice fast next tues so I'll be back to NO coffee. My one dealy sin is ciggies and I'm going for quitting to fast this year.
My longest fast to date has been 4 days and I quit because I planned to do a 4 day fast, not because of any problems. I'm going for a minimum of 7 days this time on OJ ... a healing fast ... IF I've made a turn around and seriously starting to feel good, I will extend it ... I will be paying close attention to this right kidney, it will let me know stop or go.
- Plzchuckle, your recipe is hard to f... alegrea
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This is a reply to # 1,077,195I don't know how to follow those instructions - I'm a little challenged on this vast forum. Any more hints, please?
- Plzchuckle, your recipe is hard to f... alegrea
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- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... plzchuckle
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- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... #88809
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- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... megan
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This is a reply to # 1,076,187getting those stones out was a major boost to my health. my triglyceride level was in the high risk zone, also had constant anxiety and daily panic attacks...all this resolved with liver flushes. the first flushes produced 100's of stones, some quite big...now I rarely see any stones...how is it that those pieces of soap don't happen anymore when I'm doing the exact same flush? the most dramatic was my night panic completely gone after that first flush.
absolutely they are stones. - Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... Megabite
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This is a reply to # 1,076,187Not only that but many people, like me, do not use a green colored oil like olive oil to flush with and I ALWAYS get out green stones! How are the doctors going to explain that one? :)
- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... #88809
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This is a reply to # 1,077,758Thing is i've heard people saying it is a reaction with the Epsom Salts and olive oil, the green comes from else where. . . So if you remove Epsom Salts , replace it with the pepper and still get the same results.... well need we say more. Something is obviously going on there. All those people who say flushes don't work and are a myth, ar not looking into the facts.
Any Doctors here who would like to take up the challenge of writing up a Scientific paper on this? Any takers?
Sometimes i feel like the only scientist who listens to what other people have tried instead of thinking "I know best and it's rubbish!"
If you've got a congested liver, I would say try a liver flush, but only at your own risk. From what i can see it works for alot of people, worked for me, and there are few people it doesn't work for. (could be to do with their own error, or the stones are too big?) And like with everything there is a risk to health. But look at the facts people. Any one who doesn't belive, should read.
Please add more experiences anyone to what has worked and not. The more proof and talk from you all will one day hopefully make this medical fact not fiction.!
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- Re: The myth about gall stone flushe... plzchuckle
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