flushing closer than 2 weeks 
ieatworld
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i know that flushing closer to 2 weeks may not be as effective in terms of eliminating stones but what about pushing out stagnant bile? will i be able to flush out more stagnant bile within a week? or is it more preferable to take maintenance dosages of oil and lemon juice in between flushes? thanks- Re: flushing closer than 2 weeks telman
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This is a reply to # 1,063,197From you history of posts you say you have IBS, magnesium deficiency, a parasite infestation, and a history of food and drugs overload; despite being young.
Moderation is important, you don't want to replace one excess with another. After Liver Flushing the body needs time to cycle through its natural precesses of detoxification and replenishment. The inter-flush period is the time to eat thoughtfully and try to start and make permanent life changes so the body is as self sufficient as possible without the need for cleaning.
Unless you have Gallstones and pancreatitis then I don't believe flushing too close together helps.
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- telman...question AilsaRose
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,063,311When I read the above post regarding stagnant bile I was interested in the answer, as I know that I have a lot of stagnant bile still. I finished my 4th Clark Liver Flush this past Thursday and passed a lot of stones, the most so far w/some of the largest so far. After about 8 - 9th elimination I was passing only very dark greenish/black sludge. This continued the rest of the day and into Friday morning (no bm as of yet this a.m.). The pain in my liver/gallbladder area eased as well as the bloatedness. The pain in my right shoulder blade left (once again, it usually comes back before time for next flush). The pain and bloatedness did return sometime early Friday, still have it this morning.
Your response to the above poster was moderation. I've been practicing moderation in my Liver Flushes but yesterday (and still today) I really felt that I needed to do another cleanse (almost back to back). I don't know if I am having a pancreatic attack right now as I'm not going to go to the hospital. I have been hospitalized with pancreatitis before (you've probably read my posts but here is latest post with info:
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Due to my history would it be OK for me to do another Liver Flush possibly Monday? (got plans this weekend with my family). I certainly don't want to do anything to undo or cause more problems. I've been cautious during this process as I don't want to trigger pancreatitis again.
Thanks for your time and expertise...
~~Ailsa
(I'll try to get my thoughts together to post my results from last flush)
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- Re: telman...question telman
17 y
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This is a reply to # 1,063,370Your question is completely different because it is very specific based upon the fact that you are suffering from pain and discomfort. If you feel the same way I did at one time then you undoubtedly are willing to pushed the boundaries of moderation to get a cure especially if you have nagging pain.
For gallbladder pain a week apart on occasion is fine. When I started I did two in a week because I could feel that I had sturd things up. When I had nagging shoulder pain due to a rogue stone it took a long time shift. This indicates that sometimes flushing more frequently can be beneficial and other times despite giving temporary relief a stone will only come out when condition are just-so.
If I were you I would go ahead and flush in an attempt to get rid of the pain.Advertisement
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- Response to Ailsa's query... NancyAng
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This is a reply to # 1,063,863I totally agree with Telman, and I also wanted to mention that I think as long as you are using the Epsom Salts , I don't think you will trigger any pancreatitis. I think in both our cases we got pancreatitis because the bile duct was blocked and the Epsom Salts will keep that pathway open. If you do feel any pain in your shoulder/GB type area, take some Epsom Salts until you flush. They are working wonders for me. I bought a bunch of capsules at the health food store and made my own up. They are not giving me the runs, I'm taking two 00 capsules every few hours. Actually, I take them whenever I feel the telltale back/shoulder pain.
I forgot to ask you Ailsa, do you still have your GB? Just wondering, as I still have mine (amazingly enough, though they are pushing to take it out!)
- Re: Response to Ailsa's query...Nanc... AilsaRose
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This is a reply to # 1,063,866I agree with you Nancy regarding our pancreatitis. Now that I have some knowledge of where the ducts are in reference to each other, how the gallbladder and pancreas functions I feel sure how I got pancreatitis. I also believe that my being constipated for the length of time before was a factor also.
Thanks for reminding me to take the Epsom Salts . I just fixed a glass of water with ACV with a little lemon and I can add a pinch of Epsom Salts to it. I have read of another poster, possibly hanna, who has suggested putting a pinch of Epsom Salts in your water. Or I can just put some in a small amount of water and drink it quickly!
I still have my gallbladder and will fight to keep it! I had a HIDA scan done a few months ago and my gallbladder is functioning at 38%. My doctor said that it was normal; 35% or lower being the number where it is suggested to have removal. One of my goals is to get my gallbladder functions higher.
My little mama had her gallbladder removed nearly four years ago despite what I told her she could do to keep it (and I didn't know about curezone at the time, nor did I know as much as I do now, which is very little compared to some). She is from the old school where one thinks your doctor is always right. I didn't attend the same school! She recovered well from her surgery but developed diabetics some time after. She has diarrhea every morning, which I've read happens after gallbladder removal.
Thanks again, I'm off to take some epsom salts, wish that I'd thought of that yesterday evening...
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- Exactly the same boat! NancyAng
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This is a reply to # 1,063,941Ailsa -
So, we are in exactly the same boat. When I was in the hospital the Dr. had me sent in for a HIDA scan because he wanted to see if they should take out my GB. It came back functioning at 44% which is great as far as I'm concerned. When I had the sphincterotomy 2 years ago my hida scan was 11%. So, I think my GB is really working. I just need to clean it out.
I also think that my Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction isn't entirely to blame either because of the good hida scan numbers. I think I had a gall stone stuck in the duct. It is possible that just the pancreatic sphincter was tight. But because my pancreatitis went away after I stopped aggravating it, I think it was a stone.
Well, don't be afraid to take more Epsom Salts than a pinch. Two capsules is working for me now, 3-4 times a day.
And I totally understand about your Mom. And that's my big fear, ending up with chronic diarrhea. My Mom is also the same way about Drs (I've learned the hard way). I tried to get her to do some exercises for her carpal tunnel, but she said "The Dr. says I need surgery". OK, whatever. :)
Nan.- Re: Exactly the same boat! AilsaRose
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This is a reply to # 1,063,983Hi Nancy,
That is great that you've improved your gallbladder functions from 11% to 44%. That just proves that a person can help the liver/gallbladder. Some people would have gone ahead and had their gallbladder removed with the 11% reading.
Raising my functions beyond 38% is a goal for me.
The Epsom Salts worked well yesterday.
I will be doing flush number five later today/tomorrow...
~~Ailsa- Re: Exactly the same boat! NancyAng
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Oh, I tried to have my GB taken out! But the surgeon wouldn't do it because he said my symptoms sounded like Sphincter of Oddi. He was right! Sometimes Doctors are not all idiots.
The other thing I found that when I'm having issues with GB pain or a stone stuck is to put a heating pad on the area. That helps a lot too. I tried the "Castor oil packs" but I found that just putting a heating pad on worked just as well.
But you're doing better with the Epsom Salts , and that's all that matters. Good luck with your flush, I hope you get rid of whatever's been bugging you.
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This is a reply to # 1,063,863Thanks telman,
I was at my son's yesterday evening visiting and could hardly enjoy my time with my grandson due to the pain. I wouldn't call it severe pain. I know pain very well. But I am in pain and much discomfort. Can't really find a position that is comfortable to me and sleeping is not happening.
I do feel that I am really to push beyond moderation. I've been very cautious in dealing with this since I found curezone this past June. I believe that I have enough knowledge and the tools now to not cause pancreatitis.
Sometimes you just need the help of someone who has more knowledge and experience than you have yourself.
I will be visiting with my daughter today and will start my Liver Flush tomorrow. I don't feel that it will be none to soon...
~~Ailsa- gallbladder not working (8% HIDA) hanna
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I thought it might be interesting to read the first 2 links in this post, just for another view. It is from the Andreas Moritz forum.
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- gallbladder not working (8% HIDA) hanna
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- Response to Ailsa's query... NancyAng
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- Re: telman...question telman
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- telman...question AilsaRose
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- Re: flushing closer than 2 weeks telman
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