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I had a scare last week when I went to the doctor. He heard a diastolic heart murmur (he also did a thyroid test, which turned out normal, which I expected). Fortunately the echocardiogram came back today as OK. So the heart is OK, but unfortunately I'm still undiagnosable with the fatigue, breathlessness, muscle aches and numerous other issues. Mayabe it's Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome or FMS, but I don't believe in those as "diagnoses" ... I think those are just names they slap on a series of symptoms they can't put specific causes to and can't find treatments that work, a way of categorizing all these sick people, including me, whom they can't really diagnose. Still haven't talked the doc into checking out adrenal issues. So, I'm going to go all out with the alternative medicine stuff until I see the doc again in 6 months, and only worry over whether it's adrenals or something requiring a doctor IF the alternative medicine stuff does not help or if my situation get worse.
I've ordered Humaworm, and will do a good parasite cleanse when it arrives. Will do a Liver Flush before and after, and/or coffee enemas. Will do the Iodine all out, with the vit. c, selenium, magnesium/zinc/calcium, niacin, Omega 3,6,9, salt/potassium pushes, and oil pulling as my regime. I saw improvements before, not sure of the back slide I had for a while but will watch for it again. I hadn't done the parasite cleanse before, so maybe that's the issue. Maybe I need to rid myself of critters I didn't realize were there ... I figure it can't hurt to try, even though I've never noticed creepy crawlies before.
The doc did want me to try another sleep med, which I will give a faithful try (his sample is only for 2 weeks). He's having me try Requip ... probably one of the few we haven't tried before, even though my sleep studies never showed RLS. I think he's to the point where he's feeling like his treatment plan is to be a hit or miss attack, since he's perplexed as to what to do. After years of sleep deprivation, the sleep debt is so much, maybe that's what caused my back slide. If the med helps, maybe it can give my body enough of a rest to allow the the Iodine etc. to work enough to cure and heal the problem causing the sleep issues and then I could get rid of the sleep med. However, if the med doesn't show it's doing any good during those two weeks, I will not continue it at all. (I started the Requip last night and do feel a little more rested today, but then again I slept away most of the day yesterday after putting in an all-nighter with work.)
Time to hit the Iodine again. I'm more determined than ever to be an iodine warrior! So tired of being tired.- Re: More determined than ever wombat
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- Re: More determined than ever summerhaunt
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This is a reply to # 1,033,634I'm only drinking bottled water now, but I do think I've got years of build up in my system. I do think I've got lots of bromide and fluoride to get out. When on the Lugols and salt pushes, I do get chartreusse and green urine. Salt pushes still do wonders for the barrometric pressure pain I get when there's a weather front coming in. I think I just need to be more assertive and aggressive with detox.
And I need to think seriously over the time when the health issues first started getting bad, try to remember what was in my life, to see if I can figure out some common factors and maybe pinpoint the problems. All I've been able to come up with are the travel and moves to different parts of the country, and maybe the 1 month I spent working in a factory while I was looking for some editing work. The travel was to Costa Rica and Thailand, so maybe I was introduced to something not good for me there. The moves, maybe those locales had too much fluoride in the water or had tainted water. I KNOW when I lived in Tennessee the water wasn't good there, as the Pidgeon and Little Pidgeon rivers were highly polluted from Georgia paper plants, and tried to drink bottled water as much as I could, plus worked for a time at Oak Ridge, so may have had some radiation. But, when I was growing up in Kansas City, I remember finding an awful lot of 7 and 8 leaf clover in the yard ... clover is highly susceptible to mutations from radiation. Most of the other places I lived over the years had highly fluoridated water. The factory work was as an injection mold operator (working the machines that would make plastic crates, bins, etc.), so maybe fumes from all the hot, melted plastic poisoned me even more.
Then, a lot of what we had to eat growing up was probably brominated. Dad fed us lots of bread, and always had soda pop around.
Also, Dad was a heavy smoker, so I was exposed to lots of second-hand smoke, which did make me feel sick and still does when I'm exposed to it. Come to think of it, when I was doing the Iodine and salt pushes, there were times the urine smelled of his cigarettes (I haven't been around cigarette smoke out side of an occasional restaurant visit for 20 years).
Otherwise, once an adult I made and make healthy food choices.- Re: More determined than ever wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,033,670Did you pause in your supplementation? I think that that's a good idea, actually, unless the pause turns into a halt:) I especially think that it's a good idea when one has been poisoned like you have. 7 & 8 leaf clovers? Egads! I'd never heard of that!
It's not going to be easy to figure it all out and the best way of going about things, but I do think that you need to give yourself longer than 6 mos. before returning to the Doc. We can't expect a lifetime's worth of damage to be undone in a few months, and chances are good that the MDs will do you harm. I'm basing that statement on statistics of iatrogenic illness...not that I've got the low-down on YOUR doc, in particular:)
I ask about fluoride because that's what I ALWAYS think:)
How long has it been since your health took a turn for the worse?
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,033,713I stopped all supplementation in early September, so I've had a 2 month break (I was waiting for the doc appointment, to see what the tests showed). I'm ready now to start up again.
I've always had problems with being tired despite getting plenty of rest. However, I never realized things were wrong until about 1999 (age 30, and about 1 year after that factory job working with plastics, a year before that was Tennessee with the bad water and the job at Oak Ridge), and things have been escalating ever since then.
I can count on one hand the number of alert, energetic days I've had in the last 8 years. :( However, on a good note, two weeks ago was a day that I felt at 80%, which is awesome for me ... not quite normal for a normal person, but such an improvement. Now, I have had some alert, energetic hours (not full days) over several days, and those hours were definitely a result of the Iodine supplementation and oil pulling, which I had started in July.- Re: OAK RIDGE *edit* *re-edit* wombat
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,033,722OAK RIDGE???? r u serious? Have you read "the Fluoride Deception"?
You are young, to hear your story makes me sad and pisses me off.
"Now, I have had some alert, energetic hours (not full days) over several days, and those hours were definitely a result of the Iodine supplementation and oil pulling."
good:) keep at it, and give it time. No need to rush, we'll get there:)
*edit* oak ridge, tn, has quite the history. I hope you're far away from there now:
http://members.aol.com/doewatch/k25.html
*re-edit* having read the link in full, I just want to say that I don't agree with EVERYTHING that guy says....:)- Re: More determined than ever summerhaunt
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This is a reply to # 1,033,728Yes, I saw the list on Fluoride issues. I'm so glad you posted that link. It's a definite possibility. I need to see what other areas in my life might be introducing it. I don't want to recontaminate myself after getting rid of the years of buildup. Ugh, when I think of those nasty fluoride treatments at the dentist when I was a kid ... it makes me MAD! I think about how much sicker my younger sister is, and she's paranoid about her teeth health so is probably over-exposing herself to fluoride.- Re: More determined than ever wombat
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This is a reply to # 1,033,741please see my edit in above post re;Oak Ridge.
You have to be vigilant to keep fluoride OUT of your life, it's everywhere, here are some sources:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-sources.htm
NO commercial beverages, NO non-organic produce, no processed foods...no tea, black OR green.
it's endless.
Is your water fluoridated? I know you said you drink bottled water but what about showering, cooking... ?
If you COOK with fluoridated water that concentrates it.
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This is a reply to # 1,033,728dont forget diet. distilled water and organic food. dont you dare eat out. its certified or nuthin. its all contaminated otherwise.
- Re: OAK RIDGE *edit* *re-edit* summerhaunt
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This is a reply to # 1,033,799I'm planning to start a garden this spring. I was going to start one last spring, but just physically couldn't do it. But I've got several months here to get healthy enough to be able. Won't even have to worry over whether my veggies are truly organic or not (I don't really trust the store labels), since I will be the one growing them. I wonder about using Iodine in the garden ... that's something for me to reseach over the winter. I wonder how much Iodine the veggies and fruits would soak up, and would it deter disease and critters in the garden. Much to think about!
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This is a reply to # 1,033,629Summerhaunt, I wish you good fortune on your quest for good health, you can do this.
You might want to check with RG on Humaworm forum about using Iodine during your parasite cleanse. I asked him and he told me to cut down on the Iodine while taking Humaworm. I went from 5 drops Lugol's 5% down to 2 or 3 drops a day, and continued to paint it on most days, and had no problems with it. I finish the Humaworm tomorrow (very successful cleanse btw) and will start upping my Iodine again then.
I also have had severe sleep problems the last 6 years and have been sleeping a lot better since taking iodine and especially since being on Humaworm. I only had a couple of bad nights during the entire month I was on it. I hope these will help you with sleeping also, I know how frustrating that is, and how it affects your health.
Best wishes...mamahuhu- Re: More determined than ever summerhaunt
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This is a reply to # 1,033,724Thanks, I'd read your post at Humaworm earlier today, and as a result decided to do no more than a few drops while on the parasite cleanse. I'll up it again to full dosing when I finish the cleanse.
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This is a reply to # 1,033,629I feel for you. It took me iver 2 years to get a diagnosis - and my intelligence was insulted several times along the way "It's in your head, there's no problem here".
It's a long story.
However, please, be careful with the so-called "sleep meds". They put me on Amytriptillin (an anti-depressant), at a dose 15 times smaller than that for treating depression. I was taking 10mg/day, at night. First week, was great. I actually slept a bit, after months and months of insomnia. Second week, I became excessively forgetful. It was NOT normal, definitely not normal forgetfullness. Third week, my brain felt like mush, my thinking patterns altered. I was scared, because I did not know if this could be reversed (I happen to LOVE my mind) and I wanted it back the way it was. On this third week, I "misplaced" my car twice, and both times I thought it was stolen, because it was not in its usual parking spot. Second time, it was 2 days after the first time. I looked for it for 30 minutes. ANY normal person would have REMEMBERED the same thing had happened 2 days ago, during the 30 min of scrambling! Not me!
I called the Dr., told him what happened and told him: sorry, can't do this. If I have to choose between my mind and living in PAIN, I choose my mind. He asked: what are you going to do? I said: "I don't know yet. All choices are possible, and I WILL find my own way". And that I did.
You are in the right place, and the future is looking BRIGHT for you! :-)- Ditto. n/m mamahuhu 17 y 2,432
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,033,801Yep, tried that one, too, twice, and it never did a thing for me. Most of the sleep meds either didn't work at all or worked for putting me to sleep, which really isn't my problem. None of them helped with getting into deep sleep (I get 0% slow wave sleep). And all of them left me with residual drowsiness in the daytime, which was only making my already sleep deprived situation worse. I always gave them a fair try, but would not continue them if they didn't work after a fair try.
I think I've decided my sleep problem isn't a sleep problem, breathing problem, heart problem, psychological problem, or bad sleep hygeine/habits/environment like most other people. I think my problem is a brain wiring thing, and is probably caused by the things that I'm hoping the iodine, oil pulling, cleanses, and supplementation will fix. Cut out the toxins in my body, any virus/bacteria/parasites, give my body what it NEEDS with the iodine, etc., then we can see if maybe my brain (and whatever other part of the body might be contributing) can straighten me out! - Re: Beware of "sleep meds"! summerhaunt
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This is a reply to # 1,033,801Yep, tried that one, too, twice, and it never did a thing for me. Most of the sleep meds either didn't work at all or worked for putting me to sleep, which really isn't my problem. None of them helped with getting into deep sleep (I get 0% slow wave sleep). And all of them left me with residual drowsiness in the daytime, which was only making my already sleep deprived situation worse. I always gave them a fair try, but would not continue them if they didn't work after a fair try.
I think I've decided my sleep problem isn't a sleep problem, breathing problem, heart problem, psychological problem, or bad sleep hygeine/habits/environment like most other people. I think my problem is a brain wiring thing, and is probably caused by the things that I'm hoping the iodine, oil pulling, cleanses, and supplementation will fix. Cut out the toxins in my body, any virus/bacteria/parasites, give my body what it NEEDS with the iodine, etc., then we can see if maybe my brain (and whatever other part of the body might be contributing) can straighten me out!
Couple more weeks, and I won't even have to be on the birth control pills, so should be off ALL artificial medications (unless the Requip does work, and even then as the detox progresses, I'll see if I would be able to stop that too!). My husband has decided to get "snipped" so that I don't have to be taking hormones—brave knight to go under the knife to save his woman from having to. While we'd both love another child, we both realize we're getting old enough and if we can't get the health issues straightened out, we'd be cheating the child because neither one of us have the energy even for our three teens.- Re: Beware of "sleep meds"! UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,034,168Have you tried melatonin? Snakeater mentioned it on this forum...and I did some research Works quite well for me...and no grogginess in the morning. In fact, its helped to straighten out my sleep patterns. I'd give it a shot before the Requip. I use 3-6mgs...Snakeater does 10mg a night and has for 10 years.
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This is a reply to # 1,034,482If it hadn't been for you posting about how much you take and for how long...I wouldn't have tried it! I'm very impressed with how well it works!!! :)
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This is a reply to # 1,034,311Yes, tried melatonin, Restoril, Lunesta, Ambien, Valerian, Sonata, whatever that new one is that helps your body to use melatonin better (a non-habit forming drug they say, just can't recall the name right now), Haldol, and a kazillion others. Really, I think this is probably the last one that I haven't tried. Melatonin did nothing whatsoever, was like a Sugar pill.
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This is a reply to # 1,034,931Wow...if Haldol didn't knock you out...I'd be paying a visit to a sleep clinic, if I were you, and get my rhythms checked out. I've seen large men slide down a wall after a pop of that stuff! It sounds like you do mixed shift work..perhaps that's the problem
I hope you get some rest! :)- Re: Beware of "sleep meds"! summerhaunt
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This is a reply to # 1,035,108I've had 3 sleep studies, two with one of the best neurologist sleep doctors in the midwest. No diagnosis out if it all. All they show is that I go from level 1 sleep (awake) to level 2 sleep (drowsy, light sleep) and REM. No deep sleep, 0% slow wave. No apnea, no RLS, no narcolepsy. My sister and I are a little weird, in that some meds like tranquilizers have the opposite effect, so while a sleep med may knock someone else out, they may keep us awake (but not help with the drowsiness).
Not exactly shift work. Tuesday nights is the only problem night for sleep, since I often have to put in an allnighter ... small staff with the small town newspaper, so the editor (me) has to do the layout, which requires the one allnighter a week. But these problems were in place years before the newspaper work. However, I am looking for other editorial work so I can get out of doing the newspaper work and hopefully work better hours, but that's not likely around here. Only hope there is to find some freelance.
So, out of everything tried in the past, considering how long all this has been going on (and I do think there's a familial link since many of my problems are shared with my sisters, mother and aunt) I think there's extra sensitivity to toxins, and probably a strong familial Iodine deficiency. I keep hoping my "pioneering" work with the alternative therapies will show great results and "break ground" for the rest of the family.
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