Calcium, magnesium, lemon juice (or ... 
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Yesterday I made a beautiful vegetable soup with many fresh veggies from the garden.
And Epsom Salts were on my mind because I want to be ready for my first olive oil, grapefruit juice, and Epsom Salts liver flush.
I know that magnesium and calcium need some lemon juice to be in the form the body accepts most readily.
So, I was looking at my pot of soup and it dawned on me that there was no way that pot DIDN'T contain lots of calcium and magnesium. It only lacked the bit of lemon juice needed to make these available.
I found my last piece of lemon in the fridge, was dying, but I added a squeeze to my soupbowl, anyway. (I drank less than a teaspoon of Epsom Salts in warm water, too.)
This morning I used a splash of apple cider vinegar (ACV), and didn't put a piece of butter in my soupbowl. Nor did I have a slice or two of dh's pumpkin loaf for sinkers.
(My, oh my, I am feeling virtuous!)
What do you think, am I getting the value of calcium and magnesium from the soup?
They say it makes you sleepy, maybe that's why I am sitting here drowsing..........
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This is a reply to # 1,018,696I took a nap.
...And when I awakened I wrote this in the keeping fats/proteins away from carbs thread below...
"Today, though I am recovering from a major job of sorting cans and bottles in the backyard (3 to 4 thousand of them), I awoke from a much-needed nap, well-rested and ravenous.
Beautiful soup containing beet greens and chard, with a spoonful of brown rice, needs a splash of apple cider vinegar!
I have a sneaky suspicion that's what we need every day. I feel terrific!
Lewis Carroll, at the beginning of 'Alice in Wonderland', said it best..."Soup of the evening, beautiful soup.""
I felt wonderful!
Yes, my legs and waist still ached from the workout they got two days ago, but the 'toothache quality' was gone...I was above it.
I felt, and my body acted like the early days on the original, bare-bones Weight Watchers when I was twenty-five, four+ decades ago, and before I started smoking.
That's a complete turn-around in fourteen hours, just with a superior pot of vegetable soup with small splashes of lemon juice or unprocessed apple cider vinegar; and few transgressions with the fat/protein apart from carbs thing.
(The less than one teaspoon of Epsom Salts in hot water [a little more magnesium than was in the soup] I had about 11 p.m. last night didn't hurt either. I had a happy bathroom visit at 10 a.m. this morning...the best in ages...which means I am not particularly 'blocked', thank goodness.)
Do you know what this means to me?
It means that this may be the 'missing link' in actually getting the nutrients from the veggies I eat; and I may have cracked the secret behind Weight Watchers.
They told us at the get-go that they didn't know how it worked. I think it was the limitation of fats/proteins with limited carbs.
If I am also releasing the calcium and magnesium in veggies, with a little lemon juice or raw apple cider vinegar...well, the sky's the limit.
The truly restful nap, came, I believe, from the combination of calcium, magnesium, and lemon/ACV, which is mighty like the infomercials I've seen on TV for the powdered version sold in bottles...but cheaper.
That stuff is supposed to give you a great sleep. That's what I got...for free.
...Plus a fine bathroom visit...plus feeling I was back on Weight Watchers, peeing out excess weight...and I am getting the prickles in my liver/gallbladder area that signal the movement of stones (Hooray); and I may even be moving out the debris from parasite cleanses, at last.
After my nap, and after I did a few things around the house, I got sort of sleepy again...so I came here to the computer and posted and napped some. (If you see me not making sense sometimes, snap your fingers and I'll wake up.)
So, here are the basics...
7 p.m. last night
Soup including purple-skinned carrots, daikon, celery, mixed dark greens, a big piece of ginger, lots of garlic, onion, lightly simmered, on top of a spoonful of cooked brown rice...a few other things with it.
11 p.m.
Another bowl of soup with a drizzle of lemon juice...and less than one teaspoon of Epsom Salts in one cup of hot water.
8 a.m. this morning
Soup and a smaller spoonful of brown rice, plain, no butter, only a bit of Celtic gray Sea Salt , and splash of apple cider vinegar. Felt virtuous.
10 a.m.
Good bathroom visit.
11 a.m.
Fresh piece of watermelon, 10 minutes out of the garden.
11:20 a.m. to 1:25 p.m.
Nap. Awoke with a dash to the bathroom, and found I felt fine, as well as hungry.
This evening we had a veggie dinner (my fish was spoiled), and I splashed some ACV on the mashed medley of carrots, parsnips, and white sweet potato, with butter. Had butter on the steamed new potatoes, too. I feel nicely stuffed, though not virtuous.
I'm sipping hot water and contemplating Epsom Salts , at 7 p.m.
It's been quite a day.
F.
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This is a reply to # 1,019,052I didn't take any Epsom Salts last night.
This morning the last of the beautiful soup was a bit tart, slightly foamy, and past its 'sell by' date, so he put it on the compost pile.
Then I took a cup of water, the last of the cooked brown rice, and the last of last night's mashed vegetable medley...carrots, parsnips, and white sweet potato...warmed them (I'm using my enameled pots for these soup experiments), added a small splash of ACV and a pinch of Celtic grey Sea Salt , and enjoyed.
There may have been a bit of butter in the root veggies, but not much. Which may have been why I felt satisfied and good, but not virtuous. (Using the term 'virtuous' is my way of saying I could feel the pounds just dropping away...my measure of well-being and 'progress'. It's kind of hard to explain.)
I had a fine bathroom visit at 10 a.m.
At lunchtime, 12:30 p.m., I had a lovely pear, and one okra pod.
At 3 p.m., I thought I might have a cheese sandwich with veggies, olive oil, and some garlic. Then I thought of a poached egg and white onion sandwich with the same dressings and dijon mustard.
Then I kind of made both, subtracting the bread.
I put a bit of water, butter, and coconut oil in a stainless steel frypan, heated it and threw in some sliced cabbage, garlic, and white onions. Then I added two eggs to soft poach and a lid. A few minutes later I added a few pieces of cheddar cheese.
I lifted the works onto a plate I love with a curved up edge...poured all the pan juices on top and sat down with condiments.
My condiments are; the five mixed powdered Humaworm 'in-between' herbs, cinnamon, cloves, ginger, sage, and thyme...a good dijon mustard; and the Celtic grey.
My procedure is to put a good pinch of the 'in-betweens' on one edge of the meal, and a little blob of the mustard on another. The salt goes over all, lightly, and I break the eggs in a grid so that the yolks spread lightly through the veggies. Then I eat, alternating the condiments with different forkfuls. The melty cheese tasted like dessert.
I didn't add ACV, but I could have.
Sometimes I am tempted to lick my plate, and my husband lets me, and this was one of those times I felt like it...but I didn't. I only made sure I got all the 'sauce', the moisture in the bottom of the plate, and every last bit of egg and veggies and cheese.
Dinner was fish and chips from a British fish and chips shop with a good splash of ACV, and two scoops of homemade cabbage and carrot slaw. Plus I ate my little tub of tartar sauce.
I am stuffed, and wouldn't be surprised I go to bed earlier...soon after I check the lottery numbers.
I look forward to seeing how that cheese affects my bathroom visits...being that I ate it with some veggies and eggs and fats...not carbs.
Not a perfect day, but I am real proud of subtracting the bread from my 'sandwiches'.
I also 'blessed' my fish and chips, just in case.
I thought some on my idea to gather a few folks for a program called 'Soup'. If I show progress, I'll do that.- Re: Next day... b2reflect
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This is a reply to # 1,019,857Fledgling,
you sound like you are doing superb! Good for you!
"I also 'blessed' my fish and chips, just in case." When I do this, it seems that anything that is not nutritious passes through me. (Seems like it should be something I do every time I eat, yet I do not...yet :D). I ask that my food be blessed and restored to its highest nutritional value. Also, that what is not of nutritional value pass through my body and not stay.
Have an Awesome Sunday!
Peace,
Beth- Re: Next day... fledgling
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This is a reply to # 1,020,317Thanks, Beth,
I needed that. First, that someone agrees, and, secondly, that it works.
I am designing my own way, based on everything I've learned and observed over (mumble) decades...testing as I go, seeing what is easy to actually incorporate, and what isn't.
Last night I had try to sleep against 2 or 3 toothaches, which came and went. I went through a number of cloves, and I got up and moved some, a couple of times.
This a.m. I had a small bowl of steel-cut oats, with some milk, and stevia drops.
A good bathroom visit (another measure of well-being), at 11 a.m., because I was just getting up at 10.
Two thinly-sliced bread, tomato, white onion, cheddar sandwiches.
And, for dinner, canned baked beans on toast, with lots of tomatoes from the garden.
At the moment I am drinking (not sipping) two cups of hot water...as warm as tea...and I look forward to a lovely pear that awaits.
I have cleared away most of the smoking things, and am only experiencing a little 'emptiness' from time to time when I would have usually reached to make a cigarette. I do have makings left for one or two, but hope I won't 'need' them.
Perhaps ending smoking is simply being able to swing into the next mode...this one being getting used to the momentary 'emptiness' feelings I get. So far, I haven't felt 'agitated' as in the past.
It dawned on me today that a lot of us feel, or rather DON'T feel low-grade pain from many sources.
For example, gallstones, gas, poor posture, overweight, old injuries, parasites, hangnails, small everyday healing wounds, tooth problems, who didn't dance with you when you were seventeen, small slights and lonlinesses, small failures, longings, and addictions.
Still, and at the same time, I feel that energy is only good, because of its source...and that we all, every one, go to contentment, fulfillment. That we might as well do the best we can by each other while we are here, because it is our happiness...now.
So, we don't exactly feel the low-grade pains, and sometimes get life right, and promote happiness and peace around us.
Doing this more and more frequently, rather than lying around bemoaning our obstacles, makes a sum total good day, don't you think?
Now for that pear, and Humphrey Bogart movies.
Thank you for your insight, Beth. That's what I want to achieve, also.
My best,
Fledgling
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- Re: Next day...remember Kalliope? (s... chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 1,019,857
remember her excursions down the Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) rabbit hole?
the way you describe you plating and condimenting tells me you are a great condiment aficionado. (I am as well) It also alerts me to a thought I often have.
A good dijon is one one my "must have" items, and Ive noted that "spice" or "spices"
is a common ingredient in most that I look at. The one I feel likely "addicted to"
( that is, I'm not quite as happy with others --AND it comes in a gorgeous reusable canning jar with rubber ring) I'm almost certain contains MSG. Can't think of the name right now, because I'm trying another that doesn't taste as good. Hmm. red flag.
I remember K.'s experiments with her brother and a plateful of after-dinner chocolates. He would always gravitate to the ones that tested for(or openly stated they contained MSG. If his hand moved to the non-msg chocolate, it would waver there--he unconscious of that--and then move to the MSG-loaded one.
as K said/discovered, you can't rely on what is revealed as ingredients--and Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) is one big piece of that weight-gain/loss picture. ( I pity the folks who literally feel they are starving, since they are nutritionally, while they continue to crave and battle the *need* for more and more of their "favourite" foods...)
I think as we get older too, hormonally,
the Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) really screws with the system--and we need way more mineral-rich vinegar
as well as that miracle anionic lemon. :)
- Re: Next day...remember Kalliope? (s... fledgling
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This is a reply to # 1,021,714You bet I remember Kalliope, and her brother, Chirontherainbowbridge!
And I certainly am a condiment-lover, goodness knows.
I am so much a food-lover that I regularly taste some of my food plain, then maybe add a little salt, and/or add small dollops of spices, herbs, condiments, and even additional foods to the side of the plate, or as 'dessert'.
In a sense I am always 'preparing' food...testing and tasting...deciding my favorite combinations. Anticipation is everything.
I appreciated Kalliope's findings so much that she opened a whole new world for me.
What if a person could tell exactly what they needed, right now? And the value, to them, of the food/product in front of them.
That thought soon fell apart for me, because I was unable to do the 'testing' suggested...not with any confidence, anyway.
Then it dawned on me that my body could detect goodness for me...that I might be 'drawn' to what I needed. Overall, that's what has happened, chocolate cake notwithstanding. (I can say, 'No thanks', wonderfully easily, now.)
And then came the idea that I could 'bless' my food.
If feeling better and better, as time goes along, is any sign, I'm doing well at that.
One good thing I am doing is NOT 'specifying'. I'm just thinking of the energy of the universe, and letting that vibration take whatever course it may. My thinking brain only needs to guide me to reasonableness, happy choices.
After all, our ancestors chose to 'bless' their food.
So far, so good. I improve daily.
F.
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- Re: Calcium, magnesium, lemon juice ... fledgling
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This is a reply to # 1,018,696I just read a couple of threads in the Liver Flush Forum that made me sit up and take notice...
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1020329#i
Follow the links given.
I'll go get the other URL...
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1020540#i
Do those whole threads do anything for you?- Re: Calcium, magnesium, lemon juice ... chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 1,020,740hi Fledgling,
i haven't been around curezone much in the last year or so. Popped in to check on how to make ear candles...
ACV is a must to add to your every big pot of veg. stock, after it's slow-cooked and cooled. That will extract the most possible minerals from the vegetables. Let sit awhile before straining. Then for good measure--add more!
For straining, I like white scarf silk (over the strainer), it lasts forever and you can twist it tight to get all the liquid out. I use it for my pineapple vinegar too
( that I make the fast and easy way--pineapple juice or pulp to a starter amount of pure ACV. shake daily for about six weeks before drinking. This just gets better with age.
Here's a great recipe from Susun Weed. do you know her?
My mother started making this years ago, for herself: a foul-looking bottle it was too, the first one, sort of rusty around the lid, where the wax paper had eaten away, but the inside was divine--my then very young son used to go to the 'fridge and sneak spoonfuls of it--that's how I learned he needed way more minerals than we were getting.
your post just reminded me of the recipe.
I make (as you may know) lots of mineral vinegars: nettles is a favorite: loaded with minerals, but you can mix all kinds of herbs and 'weeds'. I find a spoonful on rice, or on "oven salad" (just-wilted greens) is wonderful food. Sounds like you're starting to really appreciate such simple stuff. Good wishes with all that you are doing! here's Susun's Old Sourpuss vinegar
http://www.susunweed.com/weedforum/viewtopic.php?t=11128
OLD SOUR PUSS MINERAL MIX
Yellow Dock (Rumex) leaves/roots
Dandelion (Taraxacum) leaves/roots
Plantain (Plantago) leaves
Nettle (Urtica) leaves
Raspberry (Rubus) leaves/canes/berries
Cronewort/Mugwort (Artemisia vulgaris) leaves
Comfrey (Symphytum) leaves/flower stalks
Red Clover (Trifolium pratense) blossoms
Clean eggshells, or clean bones may also be used
Completely fill quart/liter jar with with one (or more) of these calcium rich herbs. Use only fresh plant material.
Pour apple cider vinegar over the herbs until jar is full. Cover with plastic lid and let sit for 6 weeks.
Use this calcium-rich vinegar as a refreshing drink before meals by mixing a tablespoon/30 ml in up to one cup of water. For the hardy and those in need of iron, add a tablespoon/30ml of molasses. (Adds 150 mg more calcium, too.)
Also great added to soups, bean dishes, and as a salad dressing.
Vinegar has the amazing ability to dissolve calcium (and other minerals) and hold it in solution, ready for your ingestion and assimilation. A tablespoon/30 ml of this vinegar will supply about 150-200 mg calcium. Taken before or with your dinner, this vinegar increases the digestibility of the minerals in your entire meal.
regards,
Chiron- Re: the "wise woman" tradition: eggs... chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 1,021,698PS--I don't use the eggshells--(don't eat eggs) but in the thread I link to, someone suggests baking them first, if you have reservations.
she also notes that vinegar kills any possible salmonella, which is why the meat "industry" sometimes dips meat for 5-15 seconds (I think it was).- Beautiful and valuable hints, Chiron... fledgling
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This is a reply to # 1,021,703We become 'comfortable' in our concepts of health-giving foods, don't we? ...Not realizing there are whole 'nother worlds to explore.
The other day I descended from the bedroom declaring loudly that I would change EVERYTHING in my life (except dh and our family), if necessary to be rid of my ailments.
And there is the sticky wicket...change. Incorporating something new seems like a mountain, until we get used to it.
Usually. detailed instructions appear complicated and nearly impossible to follow in a busy life and mind.
"Hah, that's too much bother...and it probably doesn't make that much difference, anyway. I'll remember it another day." But, we forget.
Another stumbling block is that we prefer to buy the finished product...not realizing the value of hands-on, concept-changing do-it-yourself.
In fact, do-it-yourself can be remarkably easy, and faster, and cheaper, and more powerful, than we ever imagined.
Someone once mentioned that there is energy from preparation by loving hands in home-made meals. The ultimate spice!
And sitting down together with family and friends is priceless.
Someone pointed out that our bodies prepare for digestion of a specific food through anticipation. The very sight of it inspires the right digestive juices to flow. How important then are companionship and a chef we love? And shouldn't we all be gathered to admire and support the chef and food during preparation? And shouldn't we murmur a blessing before raising our forks and digging in...just in case?
Wouldn't appreciative diners linger to tidy up after a good meal...many hands making light work?
...Added value to foods we have grown and gathered with our own two hands.
Oh yes, there is a sensible and powerful order to things.
I assume that great vinegars don't need refrigeration...right?
I'll check this out. (Your posts are in my favorites.)
I have a heck of a time finishing a fresh pineapple anyway. How simple to pulverize the rest and add apple cider vinegar!
Great to see and read you again, Chiron!
My very best to you and yours.
Fledgling
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