- Organic Laws of the United States of America & Food Freedom! by chef jem
8 y
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The original impetus I had for becoming a student of Dr. Ed Rivera arose within me very shortly after a local small farm had closed it's "gates" after succumbing to legal actions against it by the State of California. I intuitively knew there was help that could possibly be extended to the farmer however I did not have the clarity of understanding that I needed back then as to what the "help" consisted of and therefor I also knew that I needed to obtain that clarity before I could offer any real help.
Since then I have offered "comments" at a number of blogs devoted to 'Food Freedom'. However, now after a few years of doing that I'm realizing that people have deep beliefs (or strong opinions) about government and about their relationship to government and that these beliefs most often severely limit (read "box in") the individual's thinking to the point that "freedom" is not possible for them! This condition makes me wonder if individuals have to experience a total loss of freedom to see the anti-freedom nature of their beliefs?
Case in point - I posted a comment with reference to the Organic Laws at the Real Milk Campaign site and then copied the foundation and its founder on that. The founder responded saying "the problem is that the governments operate by maritime law". I didn't know how to positively respond to that statement. In any case I am having difficulty in seeing an essential interest (in that response) for learning the Organic Laws (let alone how understanding the limited government jurisdiction is the "cure" when encountering the misapplication of maritime law). Maybe you would agree that there has to be the interest to share this understanding.
I am most grateful for the light I've received by being a student of Dr. Ed Rivera! And now, more than ever, I'd like to see this "light" intensified!
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farm freedom, Food Freedom, government, Organic Laws, Real Milk Campaign, Dr. Ed Rivera, philosophy of freedom
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- Re: Organic Laws fueled by Common Interest by vairagi
8 y
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How about the mounting and insurmountable evidence of Glyphosate and other ingredients in "ROUNDUP", role in directly causing serious, life threatening damage to our bodies and many other biological entities and systems on the earth?, as fuel for common interest enough to get the duffers off their bloated seats.
I wonder if the response you mention from the "founder" is referring to how international law has different difficulties and parameters than local/state based law because of the difficulty in reaching an amenable and transactionable agreement between such disconnected parties.
Which seems a bit of a canard when we consider that even w actual maritime law it came down to and still most often comes down to business interests,as the debate on Organic or toxic herbicide use does here in our state boundaries.
For me this argument is rarely between Gov and it's population but rather between fear based (non rational/non evidenced founded) people and the non fear based (rational/evidence no matter the consequences based) people.
So the challenge is to what degree should we go to persuade unyielding, fearful, 2+2=22 persons and people in positions of power, that their present understanding is destructive for them as well as others.
I think the best tack is in the continual impersonal calm non violent in every sense respectful presenting of the facts as we know them. Since debate or brainstorming is usually not possible w those who are clinging to their own self centered security more than they are to evidence, we most often will be presenting the evidence and then waiting for them to process it, rather than trying to force them to calculate what we have presented. In fact if we present, tho it make take years, as Gandhi said, and many calm reiterations of the facts and then relax, rather than continue our press, their own stupidity will usually become self aware in them and they will stop and say, "I knew it all the time". As we slowly smile.
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