Date:   10/10/2005 10:26:09 AM ( 19 y ago)
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Rudy,

I'll attempt to respond as succinctly as possible (as you have), because it becomes apparent the both of us recognize the imperative of recording our individual experiences as accurately as we are capable. Frankly, fluff won't work...the NDE is far to important for THAT crap. Instead, diligent self-reflection and multidimensional recollection is about the best we've got and admitting that "words" just ain't gonna do justice to what we've experienced seems like the right thing to do...plain and simple. Yet, since these writings are the most measured means we've got to convey our individually communal event horizons, let us continue to share these afterlife insights in the Spirit of INTENDING the INTENT of LOVING LOVE...and let the chips fall where they may.--------------




1) When you say,

"In all honesty, until the events of 1995, I was under the impression these Light Beings were what others had interpreted as Angels. However, I learned during my 4th NDE there is a difference between the two, and, although these entities Source their Intentions in the LIGHT of LOVE, their missions are as unique as the respective planes in which they reside. I learned there is, indeed, a vast Spiritual Hierarchy which exists and Angels abide several rings closer to the Center of ALL THAT IS"

I understand that these light beings are not angels at all and we do have all kinds of destinations and missions...

------------Yeah, well I didn't know that. Truthfully, I'd been indoctrinated in a buncha glib phraseology (courtesy of most orthodox religions) during my early years and the term "angel" was tossed around like grapes thru a goose by every would be holy man that was clppin' a buck and fleecing a flock. Not unlike other sacred stations, I tired with the systemic overuse/abuse of the word itself and figured, "Yeah, OK, an angel is some elevated mucky muck who happens to be a bit more enlightened than the average camper." For me, it wasn't until I actually came into the presence of these Beings that I understood the jaw dropping holiness of it all that makes ya go quiet and humble in their company, while ecstatically calm at the same time.
When meeting up with the Light Beings during the coursing of my 3rd NDE, I didn't experience the same effect. Instead, I maintained enough personal soveriegnty to challenge Their Intent and, once satisfied, embraced the telempathetic discourse that followed. Insofar as my meeting with Angels during my 4th death trip be concerned, their was no questioning...there was no challenge...because the sanctity of Their presence made anything other then outright allowance a moot point.---------


2) When you call the library a cocooon, I can very much identify with this... Can you describe the coocoon a little more. I felt enveloped by the room holding the books as I went from scroll to scroll(you call them books) but scroll is not really what they are in the most literal term but rather in my NDE, I experience cylindrical cubby holes with translucent handles on the outside and the book or I say scroll on the inside...



-----------My Angelic Escorts had carried me along on a wave of energy that seemed to go on and on forever. As an independent entity, I felt pretty washed up...exhausted...weary...whatever. The Escorts were doin' all of the "work" (for lack of a better description) and I was just goin' along for the ride.
I recall sensing/seeing the Citadel of Light off in a nondistant distance and awared that the entire complex seemed to hover in the immensity of space. In fact, the whole place seemed to give me the sense of a Spiritually oriented Grand Central Station wherein it, kinda, served to still point some sorta intergalactic, multidimensional nexis. The Library of Light was just one, although it seemed to be central to this Center, of several futuristic, yet primal, structures.
From this HereNow, I flashback/forward to that TheirThan and notice the archetectural shape, once again, appears to be, somewhat, dome-like...although not of the exacting specifications of Buckmeister Fuller's geometrics...and, thus, I utilize the word "cocoon," because it "feels" more accurate a rendition of what presented.
Once deposited at the top most opening (which, currently, makes me think of it's parallel with an individual's "crown chakra, btw), I entered the Library of Light and, as mentioned, went into a feather-like-float which was to gradually, gently, flow me to the floor. I could say that I felt "safe or secure or protected," but that would only minimize the cocoon's ambiance, because their are no words that I know which can describe the comfort of this craddled space.
I didn't witness anything that presented as cylindrical scrolls and, yet, have no doubt that you, indeed, did. My initial impression, when first reading your postings on this subject, was that there must be many of these Sacred Library spread thruout the heavens. Each, certainly, serves Divine Purpose insofar as storing Spiritually oriented holographic information and must house as immense an amount of knowledge as angels fitting on the head of a pin when one takes into consideration that a picture is worth a thousand words. Personally, I can't even begin to recall a minute fraction of what was downloaded/embedded/matrixed, because I don't feel that as a Spiritual Being (encased in a physical body) I've got the 3D hardspace to transform the data into a recollective partition...if ya know what I mean. Just soooo vast...way, way too huge.----------






3) We have a shared experience it appears...

"Once inside, the Angels departed and I found myself gently floating to the floor of this cocoon like building. I was awe struck to see the interior of this chamber was illuminated by a diffused light emanating from the walls"

I have been to this place you describe. The diffused light coming from the walls is what I experienced as well but I might add or at least my impression was that light also emanated from the books themselves or as I say scrolls.

I did not see the books as books but rather as cylinder recepticals and I call them scrolls but even that is not accurate... I was trying to describe something that does not have a counterpart in the material world. The translucent contents of the cylinders seemed to float there in the middle of the cylinders in my NDE. There was no physical opening of the books in my NDE but rather they just opened...I willed them to open and they opened... I can rationalize the difference between your description of books and my decsription of scrolls by suggesting that I did not see beings in heaven with clothes either... every being was a bit more etheral...Perhaps my scrolls were a more etheral version of the books you witnessed?


-----------------I here what you're sayin', Rudy, because you've allowed me a rendition of your experience which "takes me there." In fact, what you've reported has helped me refocus/refine what I witnessed when holding The Talking Books (which, I've come to believe are, actually, called The Books of Life). Ya see, what grabbed my attention regarding the Books wasn't the Light that embued them, but the LIFE of the wood, itself. I mean, this stuff was really, really ALIVE. Around here, in 3D Land, we say things like, "Oh, the wood (which has been chopped down/dead from some tree) is just so beautiful and almost looks alive." On the other hand, in the otherworlds, in The Library of Light, the gold clasped, wood covered, holy texts ARE ALIVE...they don't just look like it...THEY ARE.------------




In any case, I did feel the cocoon feeling of the room as you described it so if there is more than one library in heaven then maybe I was at a different library but it appears too close to the same to your library to be much different... Maybe libararies are franchised in heaven and they mostly have the same fixtures...haha... or perhaps scrolls is how I describe what I experience in the spiritual that I could relate to in the physical and perhaps there is no really good translation of what I witnessed so I just took a shot and called the objects holding the 3D videos scrolls? I don't see much of a difference really. What is your impression of this slight difference? Maybe I just went to a different wing with scrolls...hehe

-----------------I like the way to you offer this topic a little levity byway of saying perhaps there's some kinda franchise. Personally, I can get painfully intense at times and forget the fact that we gotta keep this stuff LIGHT...which is probably one of the subtle lessons to remember when flashin' on.----------------------


4 In your library visit,"I saw the creation of galaxies and stars, solar systems and civilizations that were as multidimensionally separate as they were communally interdependent...wheels within wheels and circles within cycles, stretching back to the beginning..." It appears we have some very similar experiences. I could describe what I witnessed as amazing ly similar... It is kind of exciting to see the similarities between our NDE's.

Again we have such strikingly similar experiences...and I imagine you solar systems were just as magnificent and my experience of this galaxy was... I had the definite impression, on my trip back to earth, that many of the light beings I was going down from heaven with were peeling off to go somewhere other than earth...but I don't know why I felt this way...I just kind of know it...somehow...

---------------------I agree with what you're saying byway of my own Knowingness regarding the movement ot these Beings thruout the heavens. I could speculate and wonder along the lines of, "How many, how often, how continuous are other life forms (besides the two of us, Rudy) being taken to these Library and is this some manner of Spiritual methodology to imprint/matrix/anchor/embed a holographic core that otherwise could not be materially impregnated in the 3D consciousness without the aid of otherworldly assistance/admittance//sojourn/witness?---------------------------

I get little understandings like that from time to time that I can not pinpoint where and when I learned them. The speed with which the 3D scrolls went through time was blazing fast and only in moments of strong clarity can I isolate one moment in the scrolls.

There are so many questions that come to mind but I could spend a life-time trying to pick similar experinces we must have shared... I will try to absorb some more of your post and try again later....

Yours is only the second or third NDE, I have read, other than my own... I try to steer away from reading other's NDE's to keep my own experience my own. Have you done much research on NDE's? Are most NDE's as similar as ours or are the very different? From the smatterings I have come across, NDE's have a wide range of differences...

------------------------------Again, Rudy, another similarity that we, apparently, share is a tendency to remember the need to remain soveriegn in our own Near Death Experience. I've learned to stay clear of other people's NDE's because I don't want to get sucked into unconsciously agreeing with what they've experienced and, thus, do a disservice/disrespect to my own. As example, look at what's been accomplished byway of the both of us remaining true to our own unique NDE regarding the Libraries of LIGHT. Rather than diminish the collective pool of otherworldly, multidimensional information, we've added to it..and that's a good thing.
Further, we both know there can be a wide range of differences between NDE's...a wide range. Personally, I figure the NDE is a communal experience (to some extent), yet individual to the max. And, it is only in the sharing of our communal individuality that we can gather/garner the best understanding of what's goin' on around hear.
Additionally, I don't believe a lotta the stuff that's getting tossed around the internet (or otherwise) are bone fide NDE's, nor do I believe a lotta the charlatans who lay claim to the experience itself. I refuse to be politically correct and pretend that a bunch of the stuff that's gettin' peddled as a NDE isn't the figment of some wannabes imagination or based on an agenda that's catering to an ego trip or quick buck. It ain't like it used to be wherein one was afraid of "admitting" they'd had a NDE for fear of being branded a kook and/or institutionalized. Nowadays, the NDE has, unfortunately, become vogue in many new-agey circles and the result has been fraught with a buncha fakes who are only interested in stealing thunder without any true knowledge of directing the lightening...if ya know what I mean.
Now, with that said, let me also acknowledge the strides which have been made to bring this information to the mainstream consciousness is something that I never imagined would have happened in my lifetime...never. Thirty three years ago I was, literally, attacked for having the audacity to say, "I'd died, gone into The Light of LOVE and come back to my 3D body." The pioneering efforts of Kubler-Ross and Ray Moody parlayed their research (against all odds) into an acceptable lexicon (ala/Near Death Experience) which allowed a lotta those who'd gone underground (me, included) to come outta the closet and begin talking again about an amazing afterlife experience that, intially, was laughed at....plus, I believe, insidiously surpressed and historically manipulated.-------------------------





Thanks for posting your 4th NDE... There is so much to learn...


-------------INTEND INTENT...LOVE LOVE-------------------------



 

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