Re: How is this possible? by #155216 ..... Liver Flush Debate Forum
Date: 8/1/2013 12:14:42 PM ( 11 y ago)
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Your choice of course if you want to pursue this road or not.
So this is not directed at you, but so onlookers won't be discouraged by your inaccuracy.
No one ever in the alternative health world has ever claimed that Liver Flushes cure cancer or hiv. As part of a complete program that addresses the whole body, then yes some claims have been made.
Many hiv positive people regularly drink whole lemons blended with olive oil as part of mark conlee's program. Many of them are alive 20-30 years later after diagnosis. These results speak for themselves, and you can contact marc conlee if you want to verify this.
The blended lemon/olive oil drink is basically a mini liver flush.
Many people such as yourself have made the soap claim or even worse the 'some sort of chemical reaction claim'
fruit juice, especially citrus makes oil MORE soluble, not less so. This means that stones are less likely to form in the presence of citrus - not that it was even possible in the first place.
Bile's job is digest fats. If the bile coming out hit the oil directly then it would make the oil more soluble and not form stones. This is why people don't crap out bars of soap after fatty meals. And it is also why after a certain number of flushes the stone stop coming out - because the previous flushes have cleared them.
The soap theory was covered years ago here. No one has yet to make soap with any edible ingredients.
The thousands of stones claim may have been exaggerated, or it may be that only a sellect few seriously ill people have this many stones. If you want to call it coagulated bile, that's fine, because that's what they are. IF you contend that they are formed in the intestines and are not released by the liver then you should very easily be able to whip up some stones in your kitchen. If you can do this, please post a video. IF not then you should reconsider your present conclusions.
Like Hanna said, it takes more than one flush to feel discernable results. 6-8 is a good start, and only as part of a wholistic program that addresses the whole body. Doesn't sound like you're going to do it, but again this is for onlookers who realize that you are not following through and not doing a wholistic program.
Bile is bright green. Most olive oils are yellowish and grapefruit juice is red/yellow. bright green shows you that bile was involved here.
If you have a *specific* theory about chemical reactions then please post it, otherwise vague suggestions don't fly here anymore, we have covered a lot of Science with the flushes in the past so read the archives carefully.
If you want to post the nature of your gall bladder problem on the support forum, I and others will try to help. I know what it's like to be agitated during flushes so a rant or two is no biggie.
Go to your kitchen and blend up any combination of olive oile, citrus, epsom salt, hcl acid, digestive enzymes, and see if you can produce a stone -- you can't.
I hope you can get pain free, gall bladder pain is pretty horrible. Have you done any parasite cleansing or other preparation for the flush? Did you take the Epsom Salt beforehand?
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