Date:   4/6/2012 9:49:20 AM ( 12 y ago)
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My thoughts and experiences on the subject :

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" " " held under saline 8.3 1265
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With 2 handles + 2 footpads put in wet cotton cloths with water + salt, my body has a resistance of 1.5kOhms to 5kOhms depending on the length of time of the session, the wetness of my skin, the contact surface. The more the skin is wet, the less resistance it has... With this resistance and the ultimate zapper (similar output to the zapper of Parazapper), there is 1mA to 5mA of current flowing, depending on the parameters described previously.

Of course we may have a different body resistance, but you should try to use wet cotton cloths with more water + salt, cotton cloth is more resistant than tissue and you can use more water and thus increase the conductivity without having the annoying pricks sensations or the mark of the metal on your hands.



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Beck says in his video lectures that only 50 to 100 uA are needed to kill ALL fungus, bacteria, viruses, (not sure if he said parasites, but I think he does)
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Yes in the blood... But some parasites are able to live in others parts of the body where there is less (or no) blood flow.



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But the point is, what do you design for? Why did beck choose 30v? Why did he choose 4 hz?
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I have found that 36VDC is a high enough voltage if used with 2 handles and 2 footpads with wet cotton clothes.
Why ? Because it has been reported (in my country) that the human body can take up to 25mA without having any dangerous side effects (i mean no influence over the heart beat, the breath, the nervous system)
With around 36VDC with 2 handles and 2 footpads with wet cotton cloths, i can take up to 17-23mA.
About the frequency i am not sure yet, but i don't like 4Hz or 15Hz because with a 36VDC votage it is painfull for the human tissues. I want to use a higher frequency in the Khz range.
I'm not sure yet which one produces the more die off but tests are in progress.



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The people at Sota didn't really answer me on that.
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They sell nice looking devices to ignorant people, they don't need to understand anything to sell their stuff, suc***s will buy.
Because i once was a suc***, i have their devices and they seem to be less powerfull (and not practical to use) compared to those made by Bob Beck. Do the test with a coin with the MP for example. Or the silver pulser, high priced at 250USD when you know you can achieve the same thing with 4x 9V batteries...
I prefer Hulda Clark and Bob Beck behaviors...



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However, do any of these result in any net gain or loss of electrons. I cannot see that they can do that, other than, in the case of dosing up on antioxidants from foods or supplements, the mechanically induced electron flow could possibly push free electrons into places/tissues that they otherwise would not have made it into which could potentially be a very good thing.
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This, and also the use of a frequency with a high enough intensity can probably shake the tissues and thus optimise the elimination of waste, of obstructions, of parasites. Also, have you ever seen a the human body behavior when electrocuted with 230V 60HZ ? Imagine what a high enough intensity + a frequency can do to a small organism like a parasite... I think there is no need to be a resonnance to cause damages to the organisms tissues or to their "life beats".



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As we know electron flow is from neg to pos batt terminals. We might know or recall that particularly on old car batteries it was the pos post that tends to have the most issue with corrosion (think "+ "is electron taker = oxidant, "-" is electron donor = antioxidant). So if you buy into this idea then you want to design something that avoid oxidative damage caused by the positive post of your battery system (corrosion=oxidative stress=pulling free electrons from the body).
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Cool i am not alone to have said this...

See this discussion :
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1901980#i


I use the negative polarity on the hands and the positive
polarity on the feet.

Parazapper advises the contrary and i don't understand why.

I have noticed the same thing as you, the positive electrode seems to produce/attract more deposits than the negative electrode, therefore i prefer to have deposits going in my sole rather than in my upper body.



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Is it pos offset square wave though?
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Bob beck blood purifier produces a kind of AC. The polarity changes.



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I imagined is "negative offset" square wave.
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If electrons flow from the negative polarity to the positive polarity, and if the current can't change polarity in DC, why do you think it is important ? I don't understand what you mean and i don't understand the importance of a "positive offset" when DC has only one polarity ? What do you mean ?



Parazapper explained to me the same thing but i don't understand what this means...

Here :
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1907241#i


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Yeouch!! No!! The negative protects the parasites or other organisms that need to be eliminated. It is the positive that kills, negative grows.
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As already explained, the objective is to produce as much positive offset signal as is possible and as little negative as is possible.
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From what i understand, there can be a variation of the positive offset and of the negative offset only in AC, not in DC.
Even with an offset, the offset will just illustrate how the electrons behave, if they circulate from the negative polarity to the positive polarity or from the positive polarity to the negative polarity, this does not explain much...
Or maybe what you mean is that we must use more electrodes with a positive polarity in order to empty the body of free electrons ? In this case this is the same theory as grounding ?

Interesting discussion, :)
 

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