Re: HELP! Saw worms in the toilet bowl after flushing! by LoricaLady ..... Parasites Support Forum (Alt Med)
Date: 12/27/2011 10:40:50 AM ( 13 y ago)
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Doctors generally have no traning at all in parisitology. They are generally sitting there with lots of the bugs in their bodies, clueless. If you get one who takes you seriously, good for you but don't be shocked if you get pooh poohed or told bugs only exist in third world countries. (They do believe in pin worms though, here in the USA.) The lab tests are frequently totally inaccurate.
For one thing they only test the colon & bugs can be all over the body, the liver, the blood, all over. Even the bugs in the colon can scoot away from the feces. In addition there is something wrong with the lab tests sometimes since I have seen about 5 people on CZ say that they put live, wiggling, bugs in their test vials only to be told they had no parasites!
Sadly, regardless of whether or not you have pinworms specifically or not, the chances are you and you loved ones do have parasites. And you can find this out pretty easily in spite of the fact that they are insidious, sneaky little devils.
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Mho is that generally one does not need a doctor or a lab test or any meds to find & kill the bugs.
Some cut & pastes of things that helped me, and some others, in case any of it can help you:
Disclaimer: Humanworm is mentioned in the first link and it used to get great reports here on CZ but in past months some people complained about it not being as good as in the past (though some lately say it is back to its former quality) so you may want to try something like Clarkia or the other standard herbicides.
See link below for cayenne pepper (using organic powder from the grocery is better than capsules) challenge test to see if you or any loved ones have Tapeworms Sometimes one sees sesame seed looking things, or “blanched almonds” but usually “white rice” in the stools, for example. Many people have found parasites this way, parasites that lab tests said they didn’t have. Hulda Clark says everyone she ever lab tested had Tapeworms & everyone had other kinds of parasites as well.
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Another approach to tapeworms, also ascaris:
//www.curezone.org/clark/ascaris.asp
RE parasites, low enemas can help reveal what bugs are dying without any “digging around.” Enema bags are cheap & online or at drug stores. The net has many sites telling how to use them. Use 2-3 cups filtered water only per bag at a time. You don’t want to go too high and wash away good intestinal bacteria. (On occasion, to relieve really bad constipation, you can go higher, though.) Add some plain, no Sugar added, yogurt with acidophilus, or “live cultures” to the last bag & eat some. This kind of yogurt, especially Danon’s, is easy to find at most grocery stores. The enemas can also help combat the constipation often associated with initial stages of parasite killing and just help speed up the cleansing process in general.
Also, many people are not aware that they are gluten sensitive, maybe even have celiac. A gluten sensitivity test can help. Even if one shows up just at Level 1 in sensitivity, that means the intestinal villi have been damaged & nutrients are not getting through as they should. Also where gluten sensitivity is, candida is probably lurking.
Candida may be lurking regardless. One way you may find it is by doing low enemas, mixing water with apple cider vinegar or 3% hydrogen peroxide. Tea made from Quassia wood chips can also kill some parasites as well as candida. Kefir enemas can also be helpful. Use enemas after a bowel movement. If after such enemas you see things that look like string cheese or yellow gel, or white things that look like pieces of tissue paper, then you know a candida cleanse needs to be done. (Sometimes the candida looks like dark seaweed or brown crusts with mucous, apparently depending on its age & stage.) Another tip off is that, after you do the enemas you may have temporary die off in the form of cold or flu like symptoms or some itchiness & twitchiness. I'd personally get rid of the parasites first. Both cleanses cause die off and you don't want to overdo it. Cleanses do put extra stress on the adrenals. Both cleanses can take months. Be patient & persistent.
Some people say everyone who has had Antibiotics has candida cleansing to do.
***SOME HELPS FOR CONSTIPATION & JUST TO UNBLOCK THE BOWELS WHILE CLEANSING:
If you eat 2 quarts of airpopped, hopefully organic, popcorn with minimal to no oil or butter (maybe some coconut oil) and a small Watermelon all in one day you should start getting cleaned out due to all that roughage for one thing.
Taking 2-3 capsules of magnesium before bedtime has helped many people. I personally think brand can make all the difference and have found Twinlab (cheaper at places like Vitacost & iherb) to be very good.
Some people really like Oxypowder but I have found that it seems to deplete my electrolytes or something because it made me feel very tired after a couple of days.
Blessed Herbs is, mho, the best bowel cleanser, but pricey.
You can do maybe 1 high enema a week w/o getting dependent on enemas, and low enemas (2-4 cups at a time) will cause no dependency so use as often as helpful. Be sure to eat acidoophilus yogurt to replenish good bacteria. Dannon sells this in the plain, usually non fat, no Sugar etc. added version.
Some people use cascara sagara and it is effective, but you can get dependent on it. One way to counteract that dependency at least somewhat, if you find it's all that works, is to not take it every day. Chia seeds mixed in with soup or green drinks can be very helpful – though it may take a week or two for the effect to be seen.
It wouldn't hurt to put some quassia "tea" (you buy the chips & let them steep in hot water just like tea) and/or Black-Walnut or Black-Walnut /womrwood (again available at places like Vitacost) tincture into the last enema bag, and they can help kill any parasites.
***GENTLE Liver Flushes (Best not to do until a month of paracides & maybe a month of paracides plus a zapper as otherwise they can make you feel quite ill.)
I will tell you what worked for me and it was gentle. It is a slight variation on the usual kind of flush found on CZ & elsewhere. It can help expel not only stones but parasites. I had no grapefruit juice becaue it can interfere with some meds. Orange juice worked every bit as well. No Epsom Salts . It can be harsh & I never needed it. Prepare a quart of water with about 3-4 tbsp of apple cider vinegar in it, sipped on from the morning to the evening of the flush. (Some people drink a quart of apple juice instead but I didn't want the sugar, but it works fine too.)
When I had that drink it made all the difference in how many stones I got out.
Then the usual. Stop eating after about 3PM and limit the fats to virtually none before then. Right before lying down drink the extra virgin olive oil + orange juice (abt 1/2 cup of each) quickly. I found it helped to use a straw positioned at the back of my mouth to avoid the taste as much as possible, and to have a good tasting lozenge type supplement right after.
Go to bed immediately, and it seems to help to lie on your right side for at least 1/2 hour before falling asleep.
The next morning (best to do this on a weekend for sure) have a little bottle of magnesium citrate. Wait about 6 hours and do several low enemas to help cleanse out the stones. This also lets you know how many you got out, too. You may see bugs, most commonly liver flukes.
Eat some plain acidophilus yogurt with no Sugar (Dannon’s is such a popular brand available at most grocery stores) to replace bacterial flora and be sure you get plenty of electrolytes in your diet the next few days.
If this makes you feel ill, you may need to work on parasite cleansing for awhile first.
Repeat biweekly as possible until 2 consecutive flushes reveal no more than very few stones. This can take quite a few months.
***Enemas that reveal, & kill, Candida/Yeast
You might want to research on the web how yeast can adapt & morph after prolonged exposure to one kind of "yeast-a-cide" or another, & alternate what you use for killing it. One thing it will never adapt to are very helpful enemas using apple cider vinegar or else 3% hydrogen peroxide. (Maybe a tsp of each to each cup of filtered water, but experiment.)
It helps to put acidophilus yogurt and/or kefir into the last bag in order to replenish good flora, and to eat a bit daily. (Kefir will intensify any die off though.) Btw yogurt replaces candida to some extent and kefir eats it.
Those enemas will really help clean yeast/candida from the colon (after a bowel movement of course) but can also cause more die off. It may take a great many of them to get rid of it all but if you are like me you will start to feel like a new person when it is gone. Changing your diet is essential however and wheat, gluten and sugar are the worst offenders. (I personally think fresh organic fruit & dried strawberries & blueberries – plus you need blue things in your diet & only blueberries give it – do not hurt. If you want to be a total purist it may help to give up milk but I personally got my health back while drinking a lot of milk and the fruits mentioned.)
coffee enemas are good to follow up with after other enemas. They are great for the health, especially for the liver.
**MAINTENANCE
I plan to stay on maintenance for life. You never really know if you killed every last bug (maybe with Rife, maybe not, but I can't use that since its for those who are on no meds) and it just takes one to start things all over. You never really know if when you touched a grocery cart or opened a bathroom door that you didn't pick up some eggs. They even can blow into your nostrils through a blast of air outside!
I can't say that what I do is perfect, but I can say that I don't see parasites anymore.
Every single day I zap for at least an hour while at the computer. I prefer to zap at the elbows and/or ankles where the blood tontinually flows through the arteries.
Every single morning on an empty stomach(except for my meds and some supplements) I have some homemade Colloidal Silver (must be made with distilled water and its cheap to make your own & Utopia-Silver is where I got my silver maker) to which I add a couple of drops of Aura Cacia Peppermint essential oil, a couple of shakes of organic cayenne pepper, and about 2/3 of an eye dropper of Vitacost Black-Walnut tincture, alternated daily with their Black Walnut/Wormwood tincture. This drink does NOT taste good! That’s why I have a good tasting supplement in lozenge form afterwards.
Almost every single day I have a green drink (things like powdered wheatgrass, barley & fennel seed) to which I add at least ½ tsp. of Pharmaguard Diatomaceous earth. I usually don’t have much in my stomach at that time.
I eat very, very well cooked meat.
From time to time I also drink Quassia woodchip tea and/or do a Quassia woodchip tea enema. I have found this is very effective against both bugs and candida. (But you don't want to be attacking candida until the bugs are mostly dead due to too much die off.)
I'm not an expert, just someone who has gone through trial & error, like you, and found what works for me. So far anyway! :-)
***HOW TO KILL PINWORMS:
Pinworms are very serious. They can cause appendicitis for example.
You can get rid of them (though if others in the home are carrying them, or you are exposed to their invisible eggs elsewhere, such as in schools with little children then you have to figure out how to not be reinfected) with Noxema or some kind of harmless cream mixed with a good quality (maybe Aura Cacia) eucalyptus essential oil. Mix it so that it feels tingly on your anal orifice but not at all painful.
What you do is keep the mixture liberally on your anal orifice 24/7. If you have a bowel movement, you reapply instantly. Maybe keep a little mini jar, such as you can find in the beauty section of a drug store or grocery store, of it in your pocket. If you are a woman you might want to wear a sanitary pad to keep the mixture from going thru your clothes. Or if you are a man maybe wear 2 sets of undies.
It can take 3 weeks to 2 months to kill them that way. The reason this method works is that the pinwroms have to come out to lay eggs. When they meet the eucalyptus oil they will die instead.
Having said all that, I don't know but strongly suspect Pharmaguard, i.e. food grade diatomaceous earth (see ebay for one source) will kill them too and more simply. I would say use it almost every day for life to tell you the truth. It doesn't just kill pinworms. Mho.
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***CHEAP ZAPPER IDEAS IF YOU’RE ON A TIGHT BUDGET
I am no way an expert on zappers. The only way I knew "for sure" that mine were working was that I got die off at first.
The least expensive way I know (other than making one yourself with a battery & some wire & I think you can find such instructions on the net) is to go to ebay and type in World's Smallest Zapper. Also you need the copper pipes they also sell, probably, though. But they last forever.
Now that kind of zapper is kind of fragile, being so inexpensive. That is the wire tends to come apart from the alligator clip with any bumps or jolts and I couldn't make it work by trying to fix it after that. I came up with a solution for that problem. I did ask the "experts" on the Zapper Forum what they thought of the solution and they said they thought it should work effectively.
Here it is. If you get the little zapper remove the alligator clips. Use a small paring knife to cut away the plastic at the ends of both wires until you see about 1 1/2 to 2 inches of wire exposed.
Take that bare wire from one cord and tape it tightly and completely covered with electrical tape flat against one copper pipe. Then do the same thing with the other wire & the other pipe. You will be able to tell if the zapper is working by touching the two pipes to your tongue at the same time after the battery is connected. Make sure that you are touching actual copper not tape or paper towels. There should be a tingly feeling on your tongue. Do this very briefly. If there is no tongue tingle things aren't working. It probably will work just fine.
You might be able to get copper pipes at some hardware store or elsewhere less expensively, have no clue. Some people even use pennies in their commercial zappers but it is hard to get those bare wires taped to a little penny! Any piece of big enough copper will do. The bigger the metal piece, the more zapping you are getting. You don't want to over or under do it. Again, you have to experiment.
Silver will do! For ex. from some old cut up piece of jewelry no longer used. They have to lie flat against your skin though. It must be sterling silver grade at least. Silver is really better anyway in case of any accidental contact & "contamination" from electrodes carrying the metal substance into the skin.
Keep a barrier between your skin & the zapper metal conductors using the paper towels, or even very thin cotton cloth, that is wet with not too strong salt water. Do the tongue tingle test to see if you still feel that charge through the paper or cloth. If the salt water is too strong it will make your skin feel like it is burning. You just have to experiment in all of this.
I don't know whether 25 hz or 30 hz is better but just got 25 hz as it seemed more people said that was better. Don't know. Don't know if they know.
I think it should be worn every single day for an hour for life. Reinfection is a constant concern. I don't think the 20 min on & 20 min off etc. is necessary & Hulda Clark later said continuous zapping is just fine, i.e. 1 hour nonstop or longer.
I said "worn". You can just hold the pipes or place them under your feet . Some people really recommend that and you could theoretically get 2 big pieces of flat copper to tape the cords' bare wires to. Just avoid actual contact with the copper through using the paper barrier. I like taping them on with medical tape, or using velcrow straps, or whatever works, to let my hands be free while I type at the computer or read.
Again, you just have to experiment.
If you are feeling very ill you might want to zap a whole lot, though not at first. Build up. Everyone is different.
I personally think the best place to put the electrodes is at the insides of the ankles or wrists, one on each side. I alternate the left and right side with the red, or postive cord, daily though I'm not at all sure that is needed.
The blood flows through those arteries completely in just a few minutes so in a sense you are zapping all of your blood several times in an hour. Zappers may kill things in places like the stomach & intestines - that's controversial - but they definitely seem most effective on the blood since that is closest to the skin where they lie.
This is based on Bob Beck's ideas, modified. You can see more about him on Youtube & elsewhere.
Don't forget to check for candida! If you have that built up in your system no matter what you do you will never get well until it is gone. Ditto too much acidity in your system. Some say zappers kill candida. If it does, per my personal experience, it ain’t doin’ that much against it!
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