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Re: End with candida by aijian ..... Candida & Dysbiosis Forum

Date:   12/1/2010 9:40:00 PM ( 15 y ago)
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Jorge,

This is very smart. Your toughts are logical and rational.

The thing we need to know is:

Why are we prone to extracellular yeast flare-up when the cellular intestinal ephitelium is infected by fungus? Do you agree with me that our actual flare ups are mostly due to yeast proliferation and not fungal form proliferation and this is why we see yeast in stool test and this is why doctors believe 3 months is enough to clear an infection.

Maybe the antifungals can easily clear the yeast and the extracellular fungus, but not the intracellular fungus.

Do you think a flare-up is fungus going extracellular and multiplying or is it yeast proliferating, or is it both at the same time?

I remember my first day of yeast overgrowth 15 years ago while I was on Antibiotics . I remember the symptoms I had. It was yeast overgrowth symptoms. Fungal form arrived 7 years later I believe. At the same moment I started to get burning skin issue, hypersensitivy to mold and yeast and leaky gut. It's at the same moment that the problem went chronic and antifungals started to be ineffective.
Jorge I believe I can sort symptoms due to yeast and other symptoms due to fungal rampage. I think we have both form at the same time and antifungal is useful on getting rid of yeast but not fungus. I think chronic candiadiasis involve fungus and yeast. You can defeat yeast with azole but the real challenge is with fungus. It takes years to achieve that. This is why your first 21 days treatment with diflucan has been effective. You were not dealing with fungal but simply with a yeast overgrowth. Individuals who have several yeast overgrowth will develop the mycelial form and it is at the very same moment that antifungals stop working efficiently. Antibiotics does not create fungal form. Antibiotics make some individual with low cell mediated immunity more susceptible to yeast overgrowth. After a certain amount of time of yeast overgrowth, some unknown biochemicals mecanism allow fungal form to take place. Then azole are not working as they were before.

Doctors are wrong because they do not consider fungus issue and they focus on yeast issue. Also my stool test came negative to yeast after 6 months tritherapy but my stool test was not looking for fungi or mycelian form. There is some confusion in the medical field between yeast and fungus. Anyway I don't believe fungal mycelial form to be expelled in stool is in sufficient amount to be seen. I think yeast is lot more prone to get expelled in stool. The doctors and the test focus on yeast so they think 3 months is enough because test shows no yeast. They can't explain why there is a relapse and why treatment fails. It's because they don't consider mycelian red form.

Wish you good health

Étienne
 

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