Date:   4/1/2009 1:50:53 PM ( 15 y ago)
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I am grateful for this forum, and I hope it realizes the great potential I think it has. I am one of probably countless people who has often felt frustated and overwhelmed by the number of forums at curezone, and the amount of information presented. In my distress, sometimes emotional, sometimes physical, I have searched for answers to my problems; and for the "expert" to follow. Some of us have wondered, is the secret in bowel cleansing? Is it liver flushes? If I take that product, which is claimed to cure Aids/cancer or balance the blood sugar, will that solve my problem? Do I need to remove all Amalgams or else its all for naught? Colonics-are they addictive? Coffee enemas, yay or nay? Muscle testing, EFT, oil pulling, if I balance my pH will my health be perfect? I could go on and on but you know what I mean. Now I will get to my subject line.

What is health? Who is healthy, someone that can achieve a lot, be successful in business or sports or look so beautiful so that they receive 20 million per movie? There was a group of highly trained mountain climbers in Sweden, don't remember all the details, who contracted some virus or something and a number of them died. The apparent cause was that their immune systems were depressed from the excessive training. That is an example of overemphasizing one area of life and being out of touch with the healthy balance. So I think that true health is very much a balance, a wholistic process. One mistake I have made much of my life, when I try to "get healthy" is that I forget about other parts of myself than just the body. I would cleanse or fast, or eat a fantastic diet, exercise, take supplements, and in the beginning I would feel wonderful(I can remember this, but not recently, hehe). But eventually it would all collapse, because life would happen. Life happens and I would get depressed or eat or do other unhealthy things to attempt to deal with life. Of course when I say life I'm referring to the problems and stressors of life. My body would then fall in disarray, get clogged and toxic, etc. because of my diet and lifestyle. But this happens because I am lacking in mental/emotional/spiritual health.

I tend to think of the terms psychological or spiritual as meaning the same thing, as Peck said in THE ROAD LESS TRAVELLED. And emotional health is part of this, or determined by one's psychospiritual health. My point is that I can't have true physical health if I'm lacking in this other area, which is actually more important because it determines my physical health to a large extent. My thinking determines what I do and how my body feels and how I absorb my nutrients and how I breathe and get rid of wastes. Then there is the deeper issue of consciousness and spirit. What determines my thinking? I know that I have nightmares in my sleep. For much of my life I have awaken in the morning feeling worse than when I went to sleep. Partly this is due to bad dreams and to the negative thinking/worrying I do in the night. Much of this is unconscious. So my question, (sorry, I've been trying to get to the subject line)is how to improve/heal my unconscious mind and achieve a better state of consciousness. I'm sure there are those who say that after they did the cleansing and various healings they now feel good and don't even think of these issues I'm referring to. I would say that is great, but it is probably because they have a decent state of mental/spiritual health, of consciousness. Because if they didn't the body would not stay healthy for long. Or they feel pretty good but could reach a better potential if they also healed more at a deeper level, a level of consciousness.

So, in a simpler vein, what do people do for depression/anxiety and emotional pain? I have tried EFT, for those that don't know you tap your fingers on acupressure points while staying mentally focused on the problem you are addressing. Many say it has changed their lives. Now some say if you get rid of parasites and infections such as candida, have 3 BM's a day and eat well, etc. etc. that many of the emotional problems won't be there. But I know that none of those things will stop a mind from exerting influence over the body, and they don't change the hurt one has when someone dies or if a person was abused. I realize there are many things we can do, such as meditation, therapy, developing relationships(for those who know how)being involved with churches or spiritual groups, the list goes on. But my question is how do we tie this all together, this natural healing and effort to heal the body of illness or dis-ease with the "consciousness" which is all encompassing and affecting every cell in the body at every waking and sleeping moment?

I believe that if we all had the love we truly needed in our lives that most of our ailments would not be present. I don't mean that in a simple way, like you may say, "Hey, I have a good marraige." I mean love from the day we were born, from inception; and not just that but a loving planet. A planet with a loving human race living on it would not be polluted. Obviously the human race is out of touch and not with a healthy consciousness or we would not pollute the air and food; this bill spoken about here on this forum is the latest example of people willing to do anything for money with no regard for what is best for people's well-being. They can only do this because of an unhealthy consciousness. Even the super rich would want to live in a world with clean air and natural food, and to share it with others who are given the same opportunities, if they were truly healthy spiritually with true consciousness.

Sorry for the rambling. I only write this post because I know for myself as an individual that I need to heal my whole self-body mind and spirit. Leaving one of those behind won't work. A healthy spirit, or consciousness, will enable me to think well which will enable me to direct my body to heal and be well. I just wanted to present this and to ask for any dialogue on what helps others, and to hope that natural healing will involve not just the body but the whole of what it means to be human. And none of us really knows all that that actually involves. I feel inspired by Uny's work that I can give my body what it needs. I also hope that I can heal my heart and spirit in the way that I need, so that I can maintain a healthy body. I hope that I can maintain a healthy body so that I can love life and realize my potential as a spiritual being on this earth.

For those whose religion serves them well, I respect that. But I am not looking for religious responses or to be told that I need to address my relationship with God. I am thinking more of the ability to live truly in the moment of now, as Tolle speaks of in his book THE POWER OF NOW. I'm speaking of healthy consciousness, which would enable me to think well and not be afflicted with negative patterns, to resolve deeper afflictions in the body, mind and spirit and to fully open in heart and mind. Like we need a healthy plumbing system, a healthy flow of the colon and digestive tract; we need a healthy flow of spirit.

Vernal, I want a new name, but I picked this orignially because I was thinking of Vernal Falls at Yosemite
 

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