Date:   1/26/2008 9:36:24 AM ( 16 y ago)
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"I never understood how a soul, which is not physical, could burn with physical fire anyway. I thought that strange."

R- While we are on our way to the light...the light burns away the darkness like a bright light illuminates the room. All that is light remains and all that is dark flees.

"Though I have no idea what will happen to a soul who has committed suicide. Maybe that information is not meant for us"

R-There are many secrets that are revealed. When you say "not meant for us" do you really mean; not meant for you? Many have gone to heaven and returned with new insights. I know I was a completly different person after my NDE. Pre-NDE, I was planning the destruction of foreign enemies... Post NDE- I couldn't muster the hate it took to kill anyone. I learned a secret- Our souls are made out of light and that light is God. When we die- Light returns to light.

"to know as no one has ever truly died, been dead for any length of time and returned to tell us about it. If a person dies, he is no longer breathing, his brain doesn't get oxygen and even if he were to wake up, he'd be brain dead. "

R-I know I was dead. I was just allowed to come back if I wanted to. I chose to return. Only... I went to heaven in a place of timelessness. I must have been there for days or weeks but on earth in my body was probably only a minute or two.



"So most NDE's are probably a living person who have just had an extraordinary, dreamlike experience but not necessarily a death experience."

R-Maybe it might seem like it could be a dream but in my NDE, I had a life review-my soul left my body into darkness- I went into the tunne- I looked up and there was an extraordinary light that could best be described as love or God who is love- I went into a recatngular looking place I could only describe as heaven- throuh a huge opening- I met a being who escorted me around heaven and showed me a library there- I visited for what could have been a long time- I then went to a huge room with pillars with embedded jewels- I went into something I call the judgment seat however it was just like a courtroom with a bennch- My attorney-best friend was there beside me and told me not to look up or I would die(implied not able to return) so in effect I had a choice to make- If I looked up-my smashed up and broken body would have broken the chord that was attached to my body- but my soul had departed my body so it may have been viable but it was certainly lifeless- It is only semantics to say one is not dead in a NDE because it can be argued either way-but- I know my soul left my body-not a dream- but even the word dream could work
if it also includes leaving the body I guess- Anyway- I met with God and he tricked me into coming back but I guess it alright- He asked me if I had learned enough about love- What an awesome concept- I say tricked but really what I meant to say was that God who is love wants it settled for me-so I don't have to keep falling in bodies that die to figure it out- I am close to finishing up though- wrapping it up in this life- I will return one more though- if you look at it linearly- in a body- to a place where disease-thirst-hunger-death have died and each of us live in harmony with one another- sharing our gifts freely with one another- with death vanquished- there is no hurry- We do what brings us joy- And we have jobs there- To help one another with our gifts-With death vanquished- there is no reason to hurry- we live in seasons of different flavors of fruit- fed by streams of living water- Time reall is an illusion- There is no jealousy as we each do as we desire- but dark spirits vanquished- our desires are not cruel- Sometimes I see the world changing but it is set upon by death and dying- only death is only an illusion as well- You may be right that no one reallydies- Again- It is all semantics- but I prefer to believe I died- went to heaven-and returned- As I was coming back to my body- I saw a lady out of her car- I was in a cornfield out of sight- it proves to me that it was as real as this world could be- Entering back into my body- she save my life- That lady- I hope somehow that she has been blessed for stopping and going out into that flooded field and for sending the man in the pickup away to call for help. It was all quite extraordinary as you say- but it is more real to me then this life I am living now- I see it in front of my face every day-

"I believe in a loving God myself. I'm sure He recognizes the fact that people suffer and experience pain and want to leave this world."

R-That is our choice- We choose to fall into bodies that die until we choose not to.



"Yet they didn't ask to come into this world."

R-On this point, I will disagree somewhat. We do ask but in heaven we don't know what pain and suffering- heartache is or we wouldn't fall into bodies but we are curious- everything else is knowable but dying is a foreign idea there- It lures us like the the tree of knowledge- to something that is knowable but only if we choose to experience dying- I for one hope to quit the cycle and live only in the dimension where death and dying are vanquished.


"They should be forever upset with their parents for bringing them into this cold, heartless lonely world. Some say we choose our parents, but without any recollection of that, I can't say it's 100% true."

R-After we decide to fall, we choose parents and ancestors who still want to play the game of death and dying and loan out a little bit of who they are to help us in our journey- to learn the lessons we want to learn- There is another library just outside of the atmosphere that holds the hidden knowledge of our ancestors that are not in heaven- This is where we get loaded up with their karma. Hopefully we choose well in heaven because in heaven we don't know about the dark side of our ancestor's karma- but we get it dumped on us when we enter a body- WE become children of light and darkness but if we choose- we can begin overcoming our ancestor's karma- It helps to know the light in heaven is our true father and mother- and the father of time-death and dying- is limited to being the father of only our body and mind- Our soul does not belong to this lesser God-

When I leave this life- look up- I am going to come in with my head up and stare straight into the light of love- I often pray the same way- There are many who have gone before me and while we have our differences- most of us many parts of our NDE's that a common amongst us. I know I found love to be the most powerful and least pushy thing in heaven. You only get love if you intend love- The moment you stop intending love- it ends for you- May you alway inted love- It unlocks all of the secrets that will survive this world- Love is not the only answer but it is the only answer that survives this life... Give love-

Y_h bless

 

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