Date:   1/26/2008 4:31:43 AM ( 16 y ago)
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I think somehow that most of what believers believe about suicide is in error when it comes to what they believe about a soul's entry into heaven or hell. From a NDE perspective I have come to the conclusion that God does not throw away love. When we die...all that is not love is cast as far as the east is from the west and forgotten... The suicide a person commits is just one soul expression in a pool of other expressions. Hell is the filter that cleanses the soul. When we go to the light, every et...all thoughts will be untwisted and all the motivations for every action will be filtered for its love. Even the purest thought and motive when acted upon by the mind or body becomes distorted by living in the world of death and dying.
Suicide is just one of many distorted actions the body and mind conspire against the soul that will be filtered away. In heaven we will be bathed in light. All and all includes suicide that is not light will not make it into the light but I have a lot in me that I would also like to leave behind on my my next jorney to the light. That doesn't mean we have a free ticket to kill ourselves or harm others. It is still our responsibility to live as lovingly as possible to get the most of who we are into the light... but it is in degrees... It is not an all or nothing deal.

There are two levels of understanding. I know there are some who might kill themselves if they were not afraid of going to hell. This is a fear based response. If fear stops them from killing themselves or stealing then that is okay with me. This is where many believers live. The same goes for murder or gluttony etc... For those bodies and minds are haunted day and night with addiction and suffering from pain, heartache, and disease and for those who who live in a fear based life... I sense that the only way to get around those fears is to forgive themselves first. If they believe in a fear mongering God who would send the soul who makes a mistake forever then they may have a hard time with forgiving themselves and others. If on the other hand, they believe in a merciful loving God who would never leave a soul in hell forever... then that believer has a greater capacity to forgive themselves and start anew. I know my weaknesses but each day... knowing that I am loves by a God who is made out of love... I overcome my past weaknesses and each day do my best to be loving to those who surround me. I fail and succeed knowing my love makes it into timelessness and my unlove does not is my lower motivation for doing as little harm as possible to myself and others. They are both a rewards and punishments outlook but in the first fear level of believing there is a torment forever where the second level of thinking is more about a positive reward and the only punishment is that all of our unlove dies so give love...

Perhaps I would hold my tongue and say nothing at all but I want to see the world of believers change from living in fear to living for love. For a soul who mourns for those who have taken their own life, I hope that I have communicated my NDE experience with death to dispel the fears that their loved ones wil be forever tormented. The spirits that clung to their loved one's soul are tormented but the soul when the body and mind dies extricates those dark spirits in a process called hell...but hell ends dor the soul.

For those that fear a God who would pitch a soul into hell and roast them alive, perhaps it might serve good if it stops them from injuring themselves or others but there is a second level where perfect love casts out all fear. If the world is going to change then it will have to move from fear to love. Fear is where many people who struggle with dark spirits live. For a soul whose body and mind lived in fear, the end of one's life is the end of the predatory spirit's usurping of the tormented body and mind one whose dark clinging spirits are wrapped around one's wyrm. For those who move away from a fearful God to a loving God...from ny NDE perspective I came to understand that "All" that does not have light in it is burned away so in effect the suicide goes to hell along with the dark spirits that were witnesses of the suicide but he soul and all of the love that ever was connected to that soul will move on into the light.

I know that I am not a perfect man and many of my thoughts have no light at all in them. Sometimes my actions are also not loving or kind. When I die, I do not want to carry those dark thoughts and unloving actions into heaven and likewise God who is light and love can't even look on those misguided moments and they are filtered out of who we are in heaven. God who is love will take the soul whose body and mind were tormented and remove the torment from the soul... There is often a calamity for those left behind in the wake of a suicide so we should not do it but God
is a loving father and mother. God will wash away every tear. It may seem like I am contradicting what is widely believed but this is what I believe from the understanding and knowing I received in a near death experience I had long ago.


LOve & Light,
Y_h Bless,
rudi
 

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