Date:   9/28/2007 11:01:59 AM ( 17 y ago)
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>- when I checked the site there were many links that were not working

Our site is monitored by an independent 3rd party service and this has never been the case excluding a couple of short term periods of a few hours. They e-mail us every single link that does not work. Actually, our site is monitored by a couple of these services.

** I probably hit the site during one of the rare down times. I checked it today and all the links are indeed there. But they were not there when I checked it originally, which is why I reported that on my site. I will revise my site to reflect that they are now there.

>- Nevertheless all the pages on the ParaZapper site that concern illness are generic.

Yes, Sadly, because I am in the USA and do not have freedom of speech, all of my pages must be attorney reviewed at a cost of up to several hundred dollars a page.

** When I was living in Canada and was under threat from the FCC and Health Canada in 2001 I complied with conditions to be able to prevent them from closing my site down. Afterwards I came right back, never using a lawyer, and I stood up to them. I have been doing that for years. In fact I go much further than stand up to them. I excoriate the authorities on my site. Please read "The ADA Lies thru their teeth" at


http://zap.intergate.ca/adalies.htm


>- May I re-emphasize that the owner of the ParaZapper site does not post their name on their site.

As far as ParaZapper is concerned, it is not the owners name that is important.

** I agree. But I'm not talking about the name, per se. I'm talking about the relation of the real live person to the zapper he has created. You can't make that happen by remaining anonymous. It seems to me rather obvious that there is no strong relationship between your life story and your zapper. I do not consider breaking a cold and the flu a strong story. Which is why putting your name and your story prominently on your site is not important. Yours is essentially a commercial site. You state I am seeking glory. You are the only zapper maker I am aware of who hides his name and his face. It appears that you do so for a very good reason. According to you all other zapper makers except yourself must be seeking glory. I have never been accused of seeking glory by anyone but you in the 11 years since I invented The Ultimate Zapper and created my website. Others recognize my genuineness and my desire to help others. Your sense of competitiveness apparently obliterates this obvious fact from your field of vision. You have sought anonymity and have successfully attained your goal. It was not a goal that was hard to attain.

There is not a great life saving story for any of the owners,

** You would not say that if you had read my site. I was paralyzed by MS in 1989. I nearly died from Crohn's disease in 1994. That is a life-saving story that has helped hundreds of people for more than a decade. That is the kind of story you do not have in your history and I rather think that you would have told it on your sight if it had been in your history.

just a great product with less that 0.5 percent return rate and 98 percent customer satisfaction(based on customer surveys). My story is published on our technical information page.

** I would never call my personal story "technical" unless it were relatively unimportant. You buried your story very well from view. And in such small print you need a magnifying glass to read it. I just found it. On the same page you talk about "curing of illnesses such as multiple sclerosis...by zapping." I have no idea why you would invite the authorities to raid your home by making such an outlandish statement. You obviously know very little about MS, about how to research your facts and about how to have enough common sense not to attract unwanted attention by making false statements.

As for testimonials, we have hundreds but our attorneys would not allow us to publish most.

** You could choose to step out from behind the skirts of your attorneys and take a stand. There are ways of doing things that do not necessarily invite a jail term.

>- I have yet to be able to trace the New Pathways article.

It is an actual magazine. Visit their website, you might learn something.

** I have visited their website. That's what I was referring to. I clicked through, agbain and again, but the article never came up. In any event, that's entirely beside the point. It's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. An article is not "the real article". "The real article" is a zapper's effectiveness. The Ultimate Zapper beats all the others, hands down. It is the most effective zapper available.

>- You state that there are "many serious flaws" with my "claims"?

Yes. While I do not have a lot of time,

** Neither do I but I make time for important things, like we all do.

I will start with one.

Power. You obviously do not understand power in terms of electrical power because voltage is only 1 part of the power equation. P(power)=E(voltage)*I(current). As from what I have seen, your zapper has fixed resistance, it can not provide as much power as ParaZapper CCa does, even with your higher voltage.

** You obviously don't understand what I mean. When I talk about power I am talking about voltage. This is the "power point" that is most crucial in helping create a more effective zapper, along with a stabilized wave, an undistorted wave, a wave that is delivered with constant voltage, the frequency, the duty cycle and the harmonics. All of these factors combine to make The Ultimate Zapper, by far, the most effective zapper available. You have never been able to provide any evidence whatsoever to counter the importance of features. Your tactic is to use avoidance. It is impossible to win a debate by avoiding the facts. In this case the facts are incontrovertible which only leaves avoidance, generalization or distraction by a discussion of irrelevant technical issues as possible responses.

Because this topic has been thoroughly discussed in previous threads I will not re-iterate. Basically, 10.4 volts provides only 8.33 percent more power than ParaZapper Plus(9.6 volts).

** It is 9.4% higher than 9.6 volts, not 8.33% higher. The output of The Ultimate Zapper is 10.5 volts. You have completely avoided the crux of the matter which is that all 9-volt batteries discharge. It does not take long for those 9 volts to drop into the zone of ineffectiveness. 10.5 volts is always 10.5 volts. It always delivers maximum effectiveness.

ParaZapper CCa provides up to twice the power. Any of the forum posters who are knowlegeable in electronics will back me up on this.

** I don't care who backs you up. The posters don't know everything. My point is that my zapper is the most effective zapper, by far, for the obvious reasons that I state on the front page of my site. "Twice the power" does not create a stabilized wave, a nearly 100% duty cycle or superior harmonics. Without a stabilized wave any zapper is not even in the ballpark. The ParaZapper is not even in the ballpark. None of the others are.

** Dr. Richard Lloyd who tested all major zappers, presumably including your ParaZapper, says The Ultimate Zapper is clearly superior to all the other zappers by virtue of its true square wave, its duty cycle and its superior harmonics.

>- It sounds like the maker of the ParaZapper must be getting a lot of returns because he has a very punitive policy when it comes to returns.

Actually less than 0.5 percent

>- gives his customers only 10 days

Wrong! I was guaranteing results within 10 days, if you bother to read.

** No one can guarantee results. That's outlandish, totally misleading. No wonder why the authorities raided you. I would never be so foolish as to make such a guarantee.

I also state that we will extend this period when requested for specific hard to effect usages such as MS.

** This is also a good reason why the authorities may have raided you. This is grossly misleading. The zapper is part of my protocol for recovery from MS. It is misleading to state that zapping alone will have any significant effect on MS except if toxicity factors such as dental mercury have already been dealt with and opportunistic parasites and bacteria are the specific targets. I don't believe you ever had MS or you would not be talking such foolishness. It took me nearly 7 years to recover from MS. I happen to know a bit about this subject.

>- he charges them $17.50 for each return.

Wrong again! Only on 3 occasions have we even charged anything!

** It appears that your statements and the return conditions on your site are, therefore, essentially scare tactics to try to prevent people from returning their zappers.

That was because they were returned trashed. Completely black copper.

** That's not what I call trashed. That's what I call oxidized copper that only needs a bit of cleaning.

>- Used wrist straps can not be resold so there is a $9.00 US restocking charge on units returned with used wrist straps.

Yes, we did not advise and do not recommend the usage of wrist straps.

>- You say other 9 volt batteries do not output 9 volts?

This is a serious distortion. It is not the battery but the standard 555 timer used for most zappers has a limited output swing. The standard 555 outputs about 7.5 - 7.8 volts with a fresh 9 volt battery which normally reads about 9.6 volts. ParaZapper uses an advanced chip that goes to within 0.1 volt of rail voltage ( 9.6 volts on a fresh battery).

** The 555 timer chip will allow for an output of at least 16 volts. Of course if you are using a 9-volt battery your zapper will quickly have an output of less than 9 volts. In case you did not understand, my point is that 9-volt batteries discharge. Less than 9 volts makes for an inferior zapper.

>- There are over 100 testimonials in the testimonial archive on my site

We have several hundred but do not post them per our attorneys who strive to keep us out of prison in the country with the greatest percentage of its population in jail(compared to all other countries in the world). Several US citizens have been arrested/jailed for posting claims/testimonials on their sites.

** I am not aware of any such arrests. What site are you referring to?

Many others have been threatened or raided by federal authorities(including us).

** That's my whole point. You have made some obvious claims, many of them false claims, that leave you wide open to charges. It is possible to provide a lot of information, as I do, without making any claims whatsoever. You provide a mole hill of information about health on your site compared to the mountain of information I provide on my site. I repeat that yours is essentially a commercial site, featuring a run-of the-mill zapper.

>- If my zapper were ineffective

I make no claims that your zapper is ineffective, just not as superior as you claim.

** Thanks for stating that you are not stating my zapper is ineffective. I take that as a back-handed compliment. This understatement, which can only be expressed by using a double negative, adds up to a positive, as you may be aware. In mathematics two negatives also create a positive. Let's turn it around and express it simply and positively. The Ultimate Zapper is positively the most effective zapper that money can buy. Thousands of customers have attested to that fact for more than a decade and their testimonials, freely available on my site, clearly reflect that fact.

Sincerely,
Ken Presner
http://zap.intergate.ca

 

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