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You are acting the part of a troll. You know there are many articles that cover that very event (or many events) all over the Internet and you're asking Cure Zone?
I'll respond with:
With billions of galaxies, do you think that Planet Earth is the only place where higher intelligence exists in bodies/animal form? Do you really believe that humans on Planet Earth are the most advanced form of life in a body?
You are spirit. Everyone on the planet is spirit - separate from our bodies. We are all equal. Where did you as spirit originate? Do you think that you are only a body and that a spirit will only be created when you die? What part of you is eternal?
There is no conflict between evolution and creation. Remember, it wasn't but 300-400 years ago that The Christian Church taught that The Earth was the center of the universe and that the sun and stars revolved around Earth. All you have to do is to delve into evolution science as deeply as you do the bible and you will soon recognize that it is still creation, by the hand of God.
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I don't know and I don't really care. You don't have a clue either, you are just trying to promote a "six day" creationist lie. God created life, and if you would listen to science, atheists and all, you will find out how it all began with the Creator's guiding hand.
You are spirit. You have a temple, your body. Who created you? What part of you will live after your body dies? And your body will surely die.
Who created "life" has no meaning. Who created spirit does.
Troll, troll, troll, away.
Here's what NASA has to say about it - they are working on it.
http://origins.stsci.edu/faq/life-on-earth.html
How did life begin on Earth?
The earliest of humanity's history records speculations about how life began. It is a very practical question, relating to such issues as the relationship between the ecosystem and the environment of the Earth, but it is also deeply tied to humanity's quest to understand itself and where it came from. Our understanding of how easy or difficult it is for life to form directly affects our thinking about whether or not we are alone in the cosmos.
NASA's astrobiology program broadly addresses the origin and evolution of life in the universe. Part of this research is aimed at understanding how life began on Earth. This includes:
- studying the geology of the Earth, including its oldest rocks, to understand the the environment in which the earliest life began
- creating computer models of the atmosphere and oceans, which suggest the nature of this early environment
- finding the oldest fossils and other indications of the beginnings of life
- using new molecular biology techniques to learn how all of the various life forms on Earth are related, and what common evolutionary ancestors they had
- examining current life forms that exist under extreme conditions, expanding our ideas about the limits under which life can survive
- performing laboratory experiments on the chemical processes that could have led to early life forms
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This is a reply to # 794,881It was not a troll question. it was a valid question.
Is any question you can not answer considered a troll question?
A troll question may go something like this: What happened to my tail, that’s what I’d like to know.... It’s humiliating to have a body with an evolution design fault.
Evolution goes something like this.
M&M Evolution theory:
M&M's: The Theory of EvolutionWhenever I get a package of plain M&Ms, I make it my duty to continue the strength and robustness of the candy as a species.To this end, I hold M&M duels.Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger,I apply pressure, squeezing them together until one of them cracks and splinters. That is the "loser," and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round.I have found that, in general, the brown and red M&Ms are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue M&Ms as a race cannot survive long in the intense theatre of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world.Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment.When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one M&M, the strongest of the herd. Since it would make no sense to eat this one as well, I pack it neatly in an envelope and send it to: M&M Mars, A Division of Mars, Inc. Hackettstown, NJ 17840-1503 U.S.A., along with a 3x5 card reading, "Please use this M&M for breeding purposes."
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- You are still a troll #73099
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"It was not a troll question. it was a valid question."
It was in fact a troll question. It is a question that with very little Internet searching you can answer yourself. You are trying to set up people to throw darts at them. It's called hatred.
You have never responded to - who created you? What will happen when your feeble body dies? What part of you will live forever?
The Earth, humans, the Universe is an illusion. Spirit is the only thing that is real.
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This is a reply to # 794,922I do not think the question showed any kind of hatred.
>>>>The Earth, humans, the Universe is an illusion. Spirit is the only thing that is real.<<<<
Then that means you have a very vivid imagination.
If all physical things are imaginary, why bother to eat imaginary food, sleep on an imaginary bed and respond to these post on your imaginary computer if they are all illusions?
How illusional are you? How many friends do you have that are only an illusion? Enquiring minds want to know :)- Re: It's all an illusion #73099
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'Then that means you have a very vivid imagination.'"
Just the opposite is true. It takes a vivid imagination to believe that
what you see around you is real. Spirit is real. Body/material is
imaginary. We created this to learn from.
"If all physical things are imaginary, why bother
to eat imaginary food, sleep on an imaginary bed and respond to these post on
your imaginary computer if they are all illusions?
How illusional are you? How many friends do you have that are only an illusion?
Enquiring minds want to know :)"
To eat is to perpetuate the illusion which we have all created in order to
learn on Planet Earth. When you recognize that it is an illusion, it makes
everything much easier and more of the hilarious game that it really is.
Bodes are serious. Bodies fear death and those who wish to control you
create fear. It's that simple. Spirit is light. Spirit is
worry free. Spirit is having a ball. Spirit is eternal. Spirit
cannot be killed. All spirit are returning to God.
The friends I have are spirit. Everyone is spirit. I recognize
everyone as spirit, not as a body.
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- Re: It's all an illusion White Tiger
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MoreThis is a reply to # 794,959Well good luck in your imaginary world! Take good care of your imaginary friends and spirits, and even the real spirits.
Have you considered adopting and taking care virtual pets? They are much more agreeable and less argumentative than all these imaginary people in here.
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This is a reply to # 795,002"Well good luck in your imaginary world! Take good care of your imaginary friends and spirits, and even the real spirits.
Have you considered adopting and taking care virtual pets? They are much more agreeable and less argumentative than all these imaginary people in here.
Please disregard this post. This post is only an illusion and requires no response."So, I take it that you don't believe the bible? How about the following passage written by Paul:
The bible in that passage clearly states that what your physical eyes see is illusionary (temporary) while spirit is eternal. It isn't rocket science. And, while were at it, how about Paul's trip to the Third Heaven? He clearly stated he didn't know if his travel was in body or in spirit (and not astral projection), but he described it very clearly. Do you want the quotations for that journey to the Third Heaven? How many sermons have you heard on that one? Paul clearly understood the difference between spirit and body.
You can josh with me, but I'm with Paul.
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This is a reply to # 795,015God revealed to Paul what he wanted Paul to see, just like He revealed what was meant for John to see.
~~2 Corinthians 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (NIV)~~
Actually it goes like this:
16 Wherefore we faint not; but though our outward man is decaying, yet our inward man is renewed day by day.
17 For our light affliction, which is for the moment, worketh for us more and more exceedingly an eternal weight of glory;
18 while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
To fix your eyes on worldly things and lust for them is a sin. When you die, you no longer see them. There will be a time of destruction.
God is unseen, but you should keep your sights and thoughts on Him.
Again you choose one verse and try to pervert it to what you want it to mean.
Romans 8:24
24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees?
2 Corinthians 5:7
7 for we walk by faith, not by sight
Hebrews 11
1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:13
13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
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This is a reply to # 795,052
"Again you choose one verse and try to pervert it to what you want it to mean."
And I quoted Paul in
2 Corinthians 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (NIV)
So, I take a literal interpretation of that scripture and you call me a liar? You say that I perverted it? Where does it say anything different than what I said it is?
And you said: "God revealed to Paul what he wanted Paul to see, just like He revealed what was meant for John to see."
Nowhere does it say anything near what you you have added. You are adding to scripture to make it match your own concepts. It is what the "literal interpreters" of the bible have to do to make it match their (dis)belief.
I will quote again:
2 Corinthians 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. (NIV)
That passage clearly states that what you see with your eyes are temporary (that's exactly what it says), and what is temporary is illusionary.
Spirit (you are spirit, you are not your body) is eternal. All spiritual things are eternal. Again, quoting from Paul:
Once again stating all things physical will end (are temporary, are an illusion), while love (spiritual and unseen and unheard) lasts forever. You don't think about love, you experience love. That's the difference between spirit and body. All things spirit have nothing to do with knowledge, they are experiential.
Learn to experience yourself as spirit. Learn about spirit, the one that is you that resides in your body (and which is neither your body nor your thoughts) and the scriptures will open up, literally, and you won't have to dance, twist and call others who make literal quotes, liars.
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This is a reply to # 795,079"You made your own world...you can believe what you want"
You have obviously made one for yourself that is in no way based on a literal interpretation of the bible. You have proven that. You have created a world in which you have to add to the bible and edit it to make it read the way that you want it to, or more correctly, the way that you were programmed to believe.
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This is a reply to # 794,801AJ,
That is a good question. No one knows. How do you create something from nothing? Where did the first matter come from? I have never seen an explanation that I can understand. The question doesn't really benefit either side of the debate. If God was the first thing created then what was he made from?- Re: A Simple and Direct Question for... anonymousjane_01
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“No one knows”
I know. According to my faith, God started life. He is the Intelligent Designer that created the universe.
“If God was the first thing created then what was he made from”
Nothing created God. He just is. He is the “I am” that He revealed to Abraham (OT) in the Bible. He is the “Alpha and the Omega” (NT, Book of Revelations)
:) AnonymousJane_01
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This is a reply to # 794,873Then your question "How did life begin?" is meaningless. You can't answer it. Your answer that it "just is" is no answer. We are still back at the beginning. If you believe in evolution, where did the first gasses and matter come from? If you believe in Creation, then where did God come from? I am still waiting for the answer from either camp.
- Re: A Simple and Direct Question for... White Tiger
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This is a reply to # 794,873Hi anonymousjane_01
If you were the only entity in the beginning with nobody to answer to and lonely, you really would have no use for a name.
That is until someone suddenly asked you on short notice, "Who are you?" - Re: A Simple and Direct Question for... Corinthian
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This is a reply to # 794,873Faith is not the same as knowledge. Faith is an unfounded belief, so your answer could also read
"I have an unsupported belief that ....................
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