The book, "The Calcium Bomb" 
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This is a reply to # 787,935looks like you have to buy the book to actually figure out the what, where, when and perhaps critical "how to thwart this".
Can't tell much from reading that link ...Would love to see a summary and review--after reading of course--
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Mh
Moreless
and possibly others...
have you got one you can offer? :-)
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- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... Celcius
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MoreThis is a reply to # 787,935Good try Lp
There has been a recent flurry of marketing activity attempting to sell EDTA suppositories to unwary medical practitioners―and even by health food stores to the general public. Proponents of those products base their sales pitch on the unproven suppositions that Nanobacteria cause arterial plaque and that EDTA suppositories will remove the alleged "calcific shields" supposedly produced by Nanobacteria as protection. Proponents of EDTA suppositories further claim that a powder must be taken by mouth to delay the renal excretion of EDTA, resulting in higher blood levels. None of those claims are credible for the following reasons:
http://www.drcranton.com/nanobacteria.htm
- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... grzbear
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MoreThis is a reply to # 787,971In biology there will be more than 2 sides to an issue as everyone gets their theories published based upon their test groups who may vary wildly across the population.
If someone smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day will they get cancer? Maybe... Science cannot speak in absolutes with disease caused by habits or actions because there are always those individuals who defy the rules.
This and what you and LP have posted is a small example of WHY there is SO much confusion in the health and nutrition field. They both could be right and wrong at the same time. Right within their "observed" respective studies and wrong in terms of absolution.
With the recent knowledge that what we eat today will affect our decedents through DNA\RNA mutation for up to four generations, and given the vast variety of our diets, even among those who live next door to each other, is it any wonder one set of health methods or processes does not work for everyone?
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This is a reply to # 787,983I agree Grz, this is why those who try to discredit a protocal that has positive effects for others are in a foolish persuit! Some of us do fine on a vegan diet while others have dizzy spells and cannot function,that does'nt discredit the vegan lifestyle! The smoking issue is also a good example of consensis driving despite the fact that many live there intire lives with no real adverse effects! In fact in the records books on longevity many of the centurians who have out lived their offspring where smokers! However the old dictum "follow the buck" always seems to ring true!
However even if there are such things as nanobacteria that build little huts out of calcium phosphate it does not discredit the positive effects that many have found using calcium hydroxide in the proper manner! My own improvements on my body are very pronounced ! I did not even have to use knee pads this last tile job I did and found my knees and knee joints quit pliable and soft and experience none of the pain I have had in the past! So all the test group studies in the world would not disprove its viabilty to me!- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 788,003"However even if there are such things as nanobacteria that build little huts out of calcium phosphate"
this cracks me up lol :-)
I am sure things go on at this level we do not understand and it could be true among a host of other things, but it still sounds funny.
grz
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This is a reply to # 787,971i do not know what the hell you mean by 'good try'. is this some sophmoric competition going on here? i am not attempting to disprove MLs protocol you simple-minded Jack***.
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This is a reply to # 788,014I know you are not disagreeing by posting this lp... you are a researcher through and through and it is appreciated greatly by me.
If there was anyone willing to look into an issue it is you. Truth is so hard to get to these days because of the $$$ :-\
Be well and be strong lp, I am sending prayers.
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This is a reply to # 788,029thanks. you are always so kind to everyone. bless your heart, hehe.
anyway, my primary beef with ML is his abusive language. give him and celcius some of their own medicine and they become the "whiners", typical
i do think there are some long term issues with the ML protocol and those should be addressed. how will celcius feel when he has a heart attack that is calcium induced by artery blockage or if he can no longer get an errection due to calcium induced prostate cancer? only a dumb*** is a short term thinker.- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... Celcius
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This is a reply to # 788,036Well you just exposed yourself! First you say you are not trying to discredit anyone then you procede to do just that! Brilliant! lol!
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This is a reply to # 788,041simple bo dimple thinker. it's all good or all bad. guess that is why you are a tradesman. unable to think dynamically.
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This is a reply to # 788,036I would believe the protocol to be a long term problem IF one was taking the calcium alone OR without complexing it (mixing) it into a carbon based plant Sugar like BSM and a little acid like the ACV or lemon. I DO believe and always have just on instinct alone that taking calcium supplements in pill form without food = bad, especially in light of the needed complexity of balance with other minerals being offset with no compensation.
Even then there is obviously a variable need in the protocol, moreless and invincible both have stated this and it is why I think ML drills into to people on the forum to use common sense... there may be time for more, or less (pun intended) depending upon health of the individual.
I used to be one who thought if a little is good, more is better... this IS NOT TRUE and can lead to serious problems with any protocol.
I also do not believe in the use of vitamins much except in the case of severe depletion and recovery, and then they must be whole foods based.
As you know, you can drink yourself to death on water; too much of anything is not that good for us.
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This is a reply to # 788,053grz, you r the one here i respect the most. have you read any of dr. paul ecks work? his research shows that some people already have too much calcium. i do have an issue with the one size fits all approach. however, it is clear that this protocol matches what some people need now. that is clear.
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This is a reply to # 788,058Here are a few links you can use...
root papillea;papilla,
http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e05/05b.htm
and intestinal villi,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intestinal_villi
Both serving much the same purpose in nutrient absorption and\or use. Many tout plant nutrition only, AND ideally, I concur as the WORK has been done for us and the nutrition is better assimilated. I say ideally, because as you know plants world wide are very nutrient poor and\or loaded with pollutants like everything else and there is no such thing today.
The inside out root design of the animal intestine can, and does perform the same function of the plant root where the body can and does uses\takes what it needs to make anything it may be lacking just as a plant does, and of course discards the rest.
When we are sick and diseased, that is why juicing is so beneficial... it gives our body vital nutrition without the intense required work.
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This is a reply to # 788,090i am not so interested in debating the whole ch vs. plant calcium issue. i wish people to read eck's work on too much calcium. i have mentioned this before to ml. he needs to study this man's work. maya has done some, but needs to more.
think dynamically people. what works for you today, may not be what you need tomorrow as your body changes. to think otherwise is a disservice to yourself and others.- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 788,095I was thinking more in terms of nutrition period... I do not think I mentioned calcium, but okay.
off to study,
be well, be strong,
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This is a reply to # 788,095i really do not understand why my point is even an issue as ml teaches us too much of any element is not good, it is all about balance. people like celcius want to make it a political issue and steam roll people so there is no room for healthy debate and discussion. i guess that is one of the good things you learn in college, how to have a mature debate and discussion, but he would not know that. i guess all my anti-corporate professors would laugh at the notion of being part of the global elite.- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 788,106Please see this post of Maya's. people can be so blinded by their own experience, they even overlook their own research!
please see where is states ; High Calcium
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=782415#i
(this is not meant to embarrass maya, just as an example to drive my point.)
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This is a reply to # 788,014Oh really ! Sorry I dont beleive you! Why would someone post something if they dont know anything about and did not do any research on it! And all of a sudden you are not rying to discredit ML after days of doing nothing else! A women scorned as they say! You can fool others but you are very transparent to me!
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This is a reply to # 788,040no, i am not trying to discredit the fact that the protocol works for many, but for sure the long-term effects need to be addressed and they are not. read some of paul ecks work.
you remind me of a two year old- Re: The book, "The Calcium Bomb" fol... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 788,043by baiting and flaming!
sounds quit like the definition of a troll!
A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he is a skeptic. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them
//www.curezone.org/forums/troll.asp
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This is a reply to # 788,298This is a debate forum. I regret that I stooped to your level Celcius and started to name call, but it appears that was the only way to reach you. Again, give you guys some of your own medicine and you all of sudden become the whiners!
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This is a reply to # 788,303First you where ML number one supporter then you made demands , you then joined the ranks of the whiners club, so be it ! At least admit thats what you are doing! I have no vengeance like you I have no hate against any forum owner ,like you ! Defending someone who has turned my health around is not whining! You could at least be honest in your persuit! Thier is much hate in these post of yours and Acne and trapper I really think you all should reevaluate what you are thinking!
If you look back thro the archives Ml worked tirelessly with Acne b gone and his disrespect to him now is beyond reason, I know he is young but that is no excuse for this vendetta . and stop thinkin these agree votes are anything but those with the same hate egging you on! You have falling into thier trap, they give you thier vote but will not expose themselves to what they want you to do! You should really step back and take a deep breath, I really dont beleive this is who you really are! I think and beleive you are much better then this!- Re: So you are "searching for the tr... #69375
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This is a reply to # 788,313i am on a laptop and can not even see the voting thing. this is all me. i was never any person's number one supporter, maybe my own. you fail to see what is important here. i may pick up this later as i have stuff to do, but this is getting old and boring. I think I have been dealing with people with mental issues, that explains alot. you said you were poisoned and it made you insane and moreless said he has always been a litttle crazy, so there you go. the end for me.
you know the long-term issues that need to be addressed. i did you a favor if you will act on it.- Re: So you are "searching for the tr... Celcius
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This is a reply to # 788,336you know the long-term issues that need to be addressed. i did you a favor if you will act on it.
Oh please young lady! Do you think I have'nt researched this first myself!
Besides scientific studies, the living proof and real proof to me of the long term is in the longevity and good health of the Titicacas of Peru, Azerbaijans, Armenians, the Hunzas of Pakistan and the Tibetans. Who lived long healthy lives and often lived into thier 100s and attribute this to drinking the "Milk of the Mountains" which is the connection they all have in common! They drank large quantities of these glacial waters which contains crushed rock minerals ! They grew healthy minersalized crops and drank goats milk that was highly mineralized from these so called dangerous rock minerals!
So please stop fooling yourself and others with this little crusade you are on, you are just pissing in the wind! Its very unbecoming on you!
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