I still have my 1" stone after 50 fl... 
hanna
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There is good article in enclosed link how they they try the expulsion technique in hospitals in China. It is a long article, but you can read under Modern Chinese treatments for Gallstones to see what they do.
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=3418
The conclusion is that anything bigger than a 1 cm stone, mine is 2.7 cm, because of lack of contraction of the gallbladder is hard to get out.
Slider I know you are anti Andreas, but Andreas has saved my life. I have met with him and follow his suggestions in general. You have been bashing him since a long time, I remember you from his forum. You don't have to start a debate because I don't want to waste my time on it.
I do now maintenance flushes to keep the bile flowing and not creating new stones, people can live with calcified stones and most people don't have any symptoms.
I am symptom free, can go to a barbecue and can eat everything in sight.
In my daily life I mainly follow the Ayurveda bodytype eating.
I feel the best in my 70 years, after having been on amphitamines for 40 years and 3 anti-depressants for 15 years. Allergies gone, aches and pains gone, pain from my spinal stenosis almost gone (no surgery for me).
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- Re: I still have my 1" stone after 5... slider25
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This is a reply to # 733,119Andreas didn't mention anything about Gallstones size in his book, but then he always is very selective with the truth in written text. It's only when you've spent lots of money and been doing the flush for a few years that he sits you down "for the talk", in which he presents a myriad of reasons for not releasing calcified stones.
I believe he came up with a cracker for your case, what was it? A silent stone? And when the flush didn't work he somehow thought camomile tea and lemon would coax it out. Gee, I might be jumping the gun but I'm guessing that didn't work.
Again Hanna, I'm glad your problems are sorted, but symptomatic relief is not the issue here.
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- Re: I still have my 1" stone after 5... HisChild
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MoreThis is a reply to # 733,145What would you recommend for a large stone that won't pass, Slider.
His- Re: I still have my 1" stone after 5... slider25
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- exactly finallyfaith
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This is a reply to # 733,989you are good at finding small faults with the advice and the aid of others, but haven't a clue as to how to fix people's dire health problems. that says a lot. its fun to attack, but where are your alternatives? non-existent.
- Re: exactly slider25
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I don't have to have to have an alternative to attack other methods you imbecile. By discrediting the flush I have basically ruled out all the other methods(apart from surgery) to remove genuine Gallstones from the gallbladder. Unlike some, I accept that fact and do not try to recommend products I know are not gonna work to make myself look big and clever.
And last time I checked I wasn't trying to masquerade as a healer- I was just pointing out the flaws in the Liver Flush argument. I never once said I was a health guru, just a rather intelligent person who was pointing out a few hard facts that people such as yourself still can't get through your dense head.
Slider- Re: exactly finallyfaith
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This is a reply to # 735,083people like you play an important role in a forum like this, i admit that.
i am just pointing out that you have nothing to offer, you have no healing method to promote. just sitting in your camp throwing rocks takes very little courage or true insight.
but i think you should keep doubting and questioning as it moves the conversation forward.
o refrain from using terms like "imbecile" "dense" as it reflects much more on those who use it than those who they fling it at.- Re: exactly slider25
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This is a reply to # 735,099I'll use whatever words I want.
Again, I'm not trying to offer anything. I don't know why you have got that engraved on your psyche. When I did I say offered anything? Did I leave a website link somewhere advertising my services? Since when was there a law stating that a person could not offer his opinion without offering an alternative?
As for what I said, it is what it is. Nothing more. Just accept it for what it is.
Slider- Re: exactly finallyfaith
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attacking people with personal insults is against curezone TOS. if you need a reminder of the rules you agreed to when you joined curezone, here they are
//www.curezone.org/forums/guidelines.asp
i don't have anything engraved in my head concerning you. i am simply pointing out that i see you attacking people, attacking healing protocols that have obviously done wonders for people, attacking theories about how or why the Liver Flush may or may not work, and yet you have nothing to offer in its stead. you just attack.
thats a sign of weakness.- Re: exactly bioticsadp
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- Re: exactly slider25
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This is a reply to # 735,385You call that a personal attack? Gee, you've obviously been molly-cuddled through life.
Don't expect to talk absolute jive about alternative healing methods I should possess without getting a swift and damning reposte. I think it would be a tad hypocritical of me to start giving bogus advice. There are already enough people to do that around here.
And 60824, this is a debate forum so run along back to the support forum. Debate forum, support forum, see the difference there..? I'll give you a few minutes to work that one out.
Slider- Re: exactly #60824
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This is a reply to # 735,842full of anger and frustration. you will never heal. You should do another 100 flushes
The arguments you make are totally baseless. No one is paying attention anyway but it's a good read since It's fun reading your arguments. And don't tell me to go to the support forum. I have also read Moritz book on the flush. You should read it again so it sinks in when you are less frustrated.
Take a break then maybee others will pay attention to this nonsense.- Re: exactly slider25
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its understandable that you feel let down by people you feel claim they have all the answers. but, if you look closely enough, you will see that no one ever promised that just liverflushing will make your problems go away. Liver Flushing was a great help to me, but it alone did not bring back all my health. I had to keep looking, and in fact, look in the place I most wanted to avoid, at myself. my attitudes, my emotions, my long buried subconscious... no one can do that for you, you have to do it yourself.
J.
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- Re: I still have my 1" stone after 5... HisChild
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This is a reply to # 733,989OK, Slider. How about another question: Have you ever tried a liver flush?
Thanks,
His- Re: I still have my 1" stone after 5... slider25
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This is a reply to # 737,174Get with the program mate. I've probably done twice as much as you.
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- exactly finallyfaith
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- hey, hanna! trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 733,119have you tried MH's method of taking lecithin every day? he says that like disolves like and that lecithin will soften and disolve stones. why dont you ask him about it?
- Re: hey, hanna! hanna
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This is a reply to # 734,547Yes, I do, but is mainly good for prevention, it does not break calcified stones, see my post on Liverflush forum.
- An old post from Spirit that some st... hanna
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This is a reply to # 734,895because of size, shape or weight, but people can live symptom free (like me) and some day may be the body might be able to disolve them or they just stay.
I am still planning at some time to do one of the "pressure" flushes mentioned on the liver forum before, but for now I keep my liver and gallbladder hopefully stone free with lifestyle and maintenance liverflushing. This year I skipped the ultrasound but next year I might get another one, just because I am curious. Up till now I had done it every year.
Orangetabby just got a 1 cm calcified stone out, but mine is 2.7 cm.
Spirit also mentions chanca piedra, I used that for at least 6 months with short breaks in between..
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=73&i=462
- An old post from Spirit that some st... hanna
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- Re: hey, hanna! hanna
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- Re: I still have my 1" stone after 5... white tiger
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This is a reply to # 733,119Why didn't you start taking enteric coated peppermint capsules?
It is proven to disolve stones.
You can end up with a serious blockage trying to pass stones that are too large!- Did that too. n/m hanna 18 y 2,474
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