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#162306
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Hi, I'm new to the group but not new to working with GB issues. I
am looking for advise regarding stones stuck in the common bile duct.
I have done 6 flushes as per Hulda Clark e's recipe with Epsom Salts ,
Olive oil & Grapefruit juice which has releived GB attacks except
for 1 milder one between flush 5 and 6.
I recently went for an Ultrasound to see how its going a was told I
have 3 stones in the duct, the largest being 7 mm. Also the common
duct is dialated from a previous 5.5 mm to 9mm at the pancreatic
head. My doctor wants me to immediately book for a procedure called
Endoscopic Retrograde Cholangiopacreatography (ERCP) to remove the
blocking stones. (And later have the GB removed which I will not do).
The procedure involves inserting an endoscope through the mouth,
stomach & top of small intestine and sometimes making a small
incision at the bottom of the bile duct to gain access to the stuck
stones.
The danger of stones blocking the common bile duct is that you can
develop pancreatis which is serious.
If I hadn't gone for ultrasound I would have happily done another
flush and probably not had any blockage concerns - but now that I
know more about blockages and know I have one I would invite any
feedback from folks with experience in this area.
Is it common to have these blockages while flushing?
Is it safe to keep flushing?
Has anyone had the ERCP procedure done - how safe is it?
Thanks for your input,
Carey
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- Re: gall stones Blueduck
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This is a reply to # 593,842They claimed to have seen one of my stones stuck in the "neck" of the gall bladder with ultrasound. I do not trust a thing they say though. If it was, I sure flushed it out that night.
Blueduck
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- Re: gall stones..to carey Blueduck
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This is a reply to # 593,837carey, I would not subject myself to this procedure. If you are not having trouble now, why do it? I would get some herbs to dissolve stones. Are you in any pain at this time?
I would continue to flush. I had a stone stuck last year. I went to the ER in pain. They wanted to admit me and do immediate surgery. Told me I would die if I did not let them take out me gall bladder.They tried to scare me with tales of pancreatis and so on...... I declined their gracious invitation for butchering. I came home and flushed. I did not do thier recommended HIDA scan either. In fact I have not been back there since and do not plan to go. I do feel like taking my stones in there to them to show them, but it would be a waste of time.
Now........I have done ten flushes. I still am not going back to the quack to let them do any tests. I just do not care what they tell me.....they have only lied to me every time I go in there. I do not trust a thing they say.....I would be suspect of the procedure they want to do on you...I think it could be more scare tactics. Of course, they will want to do surgery and take out your gall bladder. It is a simple operation for them to do, and makes them a lot of money. Their victims suffer ever after. Read more posts and see what you think.
Please do not think I am telling you what to do. I am not trying to do that. I am telling you what I would do.
I am sure more people will come along with things to tell you.
Blueduck
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- I agree... georgina
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MoreThis is a reply to # 593,845get some chanca piedra or gold coin grass and start breaking the stones down and keep flushing. read the posts about people who have had big stones passed such as yours.
also, read Andreas Moritz book, The Amazing Liver Cleanse - can go to his forum for more info/questions. can get his book at www.1stbooks.com
that's my two cents. good luck! you're welcome to join our full moon flushing party tonight!! (see previous posts)- Oh.. Lapis
21 y
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This is a reply to # 593,846..and malic acid as per Moritz's recommendations. Either way it can be done because it has been by many. But each person makes his/her own decision and that's the best thing of all. Mainstream medicine would like to have us think we don't...but WE DO.
- Oh.. Lapis
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- I agree... georgina
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- We have a troll, playing trolly game... Spirit
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This is a reply to # 593,837We definitively have a troll playing games ...
Troll calling himself "Carey" brought 20 days old message posted by "CareyP" just to try to create some fear between new members ...
Troll was using computer with IP: 212.138.47.20 connected to RIPE Network: RIPE.NET in Amsterdam, Netherlands, and I contacted his Internet provider and reported this spam.
On the other side, 20 days ago CareyP was using computer with this address: 24.71.223.143, connected to Shaw High-Speed Internet,
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5 days later, CareyP posted her last message, from a computer with the exactly same address: 24.71.223.143
How strange that CareyP posted both message from the same computer, and then suddenly, 15 days later come a troll from Netherlands and tries to do something very smart ...
Original version of CareyP question was placed 20 days ago into Liver Flush Forum #14:
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and CareyP gave her reply here, 5 days later, same forum:
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This is what CareyP wrote:
Subject: Re: Help - stones stuck in bile duct.
From: CareyP
Date: 21:04 May 30 2003 (15 days)
Spirit - Many Thanks for your inspiring message. You are very generous with your time.
It put me over the top in trusting my own process - just finished flush 7 with lots of stones.
Canceled ERCP procedure and GB surgery date.
Guess I'll be doing this for a while.
So glad I found this site.
Thanks again,
Carey
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- Pro trolls Lapis
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MoreThis is a reply to # 593,862Spirit, you and I have both noticed this trend. As curezone reaches more people, we get noticed by the big boys and they send in the damage control team. I have been dealing with these type of trolls in other forums as well. Do you think these "pro" trolls are paid heavily to deceive? Sad when human suffering is overlooked for profit.
Onwards...upwards.
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