Hey JanaBanana-

Both Dr. Schulze and Dr. Christopher mention using the Incurables Program on 4p's with amazing success- walking and working in a year, etc.

Blessings,
-Donna

When I read your post it reminded me of this amazing thread I read about 2 years ago on the SNH sight. I made a copy, couldn't see anything further that has been posted on it in all this time.

Hope it helps,


Big scary deal!

Earlier this month, a good friend of mine was in a bad car accident. Their vehicle rolled down a mountain embankment, and this young man was not wearing a seatbelt. (the other young man with him did not live)When they life flighted him in, he was in a coma, and they gave him a zero chance of survival. He was put on life support, and we were told he had severe brain damage, spinal injuries, and that if he made it, he would never walk again. So we prayed for all we were worth.
When his mother asked me if I could help, I felt a little overwhelmed, but I knew in my heart that Icould help.
I felt like this one was to big and scary to handle by myself, so I called Nathan, and went over the things I already knew, and also got some very good pointers from him (and alot more courage than I had, and a little faith too).
I went to work. At first we could only massage his feet, so we used the BF&C massage oil, and did a little sustained accupressure, and massaged the oil into his spinal and brain areas. There was fluid on his brain, and they had a monitor hooked up to it. It went down several numbers while I was there that day. He slowly came out of the coma, but they had him heavily medicated.
(We started using B&B tincture in his ears, and rubbing it into the medulla area, and as far down as we could get with it since he was still braced and bandaged too)
As soon as he was able to eat, we started spooning raw comfrey water down him with superfood, and jurrasic green, and a little aloe vera.
It's been a few weeks now since the accident. When I sat down today, I could see that we had come a long way with him. He doesn't quite act normal, but his speech is perfect, and they are going to let us have him out in a couple of weeks. We are starting with the BF&C tea, (he has been unable to swallow anything as thin as water or tea because of the soreness from the respirator
and we have to make his green drink thick so he can swallow it) and will be doing fomentations. I know this kid will walk again. We will also be doing hydrotherapy on him. I wil update this with a progress report in a couple of weeks.
Thanks Nathan!!! Thanks Everyone at the School!!You are wonderful!!!

cayenna
Unregistered User
(12/5/02 7:25 pm)
Reply Big scary deal!

The doctors are telling us that this kid has had a miracle! When we started, they were telling us permanent vegatable. Now they are saying they have never seen anything like this. They are still saying permanent wheelchair, but I think not.
We will have him out next week. We are planning hydrotherapy, and BF&C compresses.
What do you think?
cayennaUpdate:
We are still working on this young man, he can lift one foot up a little by himself, and crawl just a little. The feeling is coming back into his legs just a little. He is still using a brace for spinal support, but we are getting closer to our goal of full recovery every day!



The Doctors up at LDS Hospital held a conference (in honor of my friend that I have been working on)because they can't figure out how someone with the injuries he had came through with absolutely NO BRAIN DAMAGE WHATSOEVER, and a spine that has healed PERFECTLY when he was told that with a spine crushed as his was he would have to.... I can't remember what all metal pins and plates and such...but anyway this kid is well on his way back to walking! the feeling is coming back into his legs! This kid, according to the doctors should not have even lived! and here he is almost good as new!!!!
Now, what say ye for Natural Healing
cayenna
Unregistered User
(3/19/03 5:24 pm)
Reply by the way

I forgot to mention that the thing that made the biggest difference (besides his good attitude) was hydrotherapy. The hot and cold water is an incredible therapy!
Cayenna
Unregistered User
(4/24/03 9:34 pm)
Reply almost complete

I think we have enough feeling going on in this kids legs to start him up on his feet now. We are going to have him start putting weight on his legs in the next fourteen days. We had a little slow down time where everyone thinks Easter means eat turkey and chocolate. tsk tsk.
Back to the program!! (sometimes he thinks I am a tuff task master, but he has a great appreciation for the healing that is going on here)
Ya know, I think my kids are learning so much with these experiences. Now not only Susan wants to learn so does Samantha. They are both determined that they are going to follow in my footsteps. Not later....right now today. (so impatient) "

Cayenna

Hi Jana, I just discovered this conversation today and really enjoyed it. First of all congratulations on finding the incurables program and using it for your personal challenge. I pray to walk all the way out to total freedom.

I loved all the responses to your query. I am a certified lymphologist, which doesn't mean much to the regular medical community, smile, but to those who know about lymphology it is wonderful.

Here is a story that somewhat relates to your situation. A ten year old girl falls off a trampoline in back yard and breaks her neck. Rushed to the hospital where they fuse her neck. Her dad rushes there from work to hear that she will be a quadrapegic. He is a certified lymphologist also and knows that the outcome can be quite different. He goes to work on her and doesn't stop for 8 hrs and the next day she walks out of the hospital.

That sounds like a miracle unless you understand how moving the lymph enables the body to do profound healing that to the uneducated looks like a miracle.

When Dr. Schulze told the man who could only move his finger to move his finger he was telling him to move his lymphatic system and when you do that healing occurs.

The massage with oils also mentioned in another post helps move the lymphatic system and does amazing things.

moving the lymph is paramount. Unfortunately if this knowledge comes years after the injury then success is harder won. Not impossible, just alot more work.

You can move the lymph with hands very effectively, that is what the dad above did.

And for a non paralysed person a rebounder moves the lymph fantastically. For a paralysed person they would need others to work on them. The key is long term "work". Like hours daily. One thing that some paralysed people are using is a 'CHI" machine. They can roll right up to it and put their feet on top of it and it wiggles them up to the waist. It can also be put on a table and their arms put into it and it wiggles them down to the waist. So they are covered in both directions.

Also colostrum has nerve growth factor in it which helps repair nerves. So if it was me personally I would be doing colostrum. Not prescribing here, just sharing my preference.

Here is a great non paralysis story regarding the chi. A lady with no legs, 70 years old, also had her arms frozen up to her chest with some sort of muscle tightening. Her hands were also unusable. She was on hospice and needed total care. A man brought her a chi machine to try out and he put it on a table where she could lean her upper body over it and get movement that way. Within two months her arms were free and she had total use of her hands and was able to care for herself and had entered some speed knitting contests. Sounds miraculous to get those results from just moving your body but that is what moving the lymph does. But it has do be done in an agressive fashion which is more than the average person can do on their own, so sometimes a machine is in order.

If someone I loved was dealing with paralysis I would recommend they try a Chi and possibly a Far Infra red dome as this promotes a phenomenal amount of healing and ciruculation. Circulation is a huge issue with paralysed people and these two units are just awesome for them. http://www.excellentthings.com

Please don't think I am just trying to sell you something. Feel free to puchase from someone else. Just know that they are powerful heaing tools. I LOVE the incurables program, and have done it, but these two units have dome things for me that the program didn't.

God richly bless your efforts to help!
Many blessings
Donna
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