I can't tell if you are a bitter woman or a religious mysogenist like the original poster. Either way, 18946, you got to recognize there's no upperhand in general, each man/woman couple has it's own individual dynamic. Guys without sex are just the same as women without sex. We get by.

I hope you are not saying that is the way it should be. Sex is not all a man thinks about. Wives who buy into this fallacy do abuse cart blanche, and then wonder why their husbands leave them for someone without psychological issues. Abuse is abuse, manipulation is manipulation, whether it comes from a man or a woman.

Men bashers and drama game playing girls (or women who never grow up), are often the ones surprised one day when her husband cheats - it isn't always "looks" that pushes a man away as some here may believe. Women can become UGLY in ways that make looks irrelevant.

These are often the "women's libbers" who are infact the bashers themselves, voicing their own personal issues to the world in the guise of being a victim of gender. It goes both ways. A physically abusive husband gets arrested. A psychologically abusive wife gets a free pass, and even encouragement. Some people play the victim when they are actually the abusers.
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I hope you are not saying that is the way it should be. Sex is not all a man thinks about. Wives who buy into this fallacy go through the abuse cart blanche, and then wonder why their husbands leave them for someone without psychological issues. Abuse is abuse, manipulation is manipulation, whether it comes from a man or a woman.

Men bashers and drama game playing girls (or women who never grow up), are often the ones surprised one day when her husband cheats - it isn't always "looks" that pushes a man away as some here may believe. Women can become UGLY in ways that make looks irrelevant.

These are often the "women's libbers" who are infact the bashers themselves, voicing their own personal issues to the world in the guise of being a victim of gender. It goes both ways. A physically abusive husband gets arrested. A psychologically abusive wife gets a free pass, and even encouragement. Some people play the victim when they are actually the abusers.

im not whining.But i think it is a serious problem that is the root of over the roof divorce rates,especially spousal abuse.Instinctually, man has the NEED to be dominant and in control but our country has a double standard on women....you cant have it both ways...If women want the rights of men,that have to be able to handle all that a man can.The fact is though that women their cake and eat it too.Women are emotional by nature.Men have always been better able to handle stress and that is why ultimately, they should play the dominant role.For a women to control her man sexually is disrespectful and also when a woman does that she grows to resent the man for being weak minded enough to b e controlled by her so from that standpoint, stems her aggressive stance and when the man is faced with the agrression what happens???
A.....spousal abouse
B.....he grudgingly accepts her position over him but resents it,then starts fantasizing over other women etc etc...
C....you guys help me out on this one..

I take the Biblical approach to this question.


The man is head of the household. He is told by God that he is to love his woman "as Christ loves the church." Well that's an awful lot because Christ died for His church.

If a man loves his wife so much her would give his life for her then she is truly a blessed woman and in turn the man will be blessed. As the head goes...so does the body. When a man obeys God and submits himself to Him and models this behavior to his family, the wife and children fall into place.

What woman wouldn't submit to a husband who loves her this way? You'd have to be nuts.

i think you raise some good points there but i think the media portays both sexes in a way that is shocking to the other sex...I call this the media frenzy which causes Americans to live in fear not only from the other sex but from anything and everything...Terrorism being the latest manipulation...this frenzy, over the years has led to unnecessary laws and unfair consequences for innocent civilians.Most all other parts of the world are not infected with these collective brainwashing experiments here in the states...It kinda mazkes me sick really so i try not to think of how much this stuff affects people.My personal goal is to live in Europe(Czech Republic soon.....America got waaay old like 10 years ago.Another observation ive noticed is the increase in the greed factor....everything is about increasing the almighty profit due to many factors but i ask....where is your pride,morals,lust for life gone people?somewhere tangled up between rush hour traffic and fast food drive-thrus and fox news!

This is all fascinating...

After college I (straight female) worked in television for about 7 years ...a male dominated field.
I have met shy ones, players, pigs, and princes...whatever.
They vary so much from each other but what I have learned in all of these relationships is that you have to allow him to be himself. When he can be himself without being put down or lectured, or rejected, he feels safe with you.
When he feels safe, you get so much more out of him.
This includes quite a bit of farting...but I digress.
When I say, "get more", I don't mean in a manipulative way. You wanna turn a man off? Manipulate him.

The guys I worked with would hardly talk to me when I first started, and not because I was some weird bull-dike, puffing up about "being equal" in a field that is run by men. They were so afraid of saying the wrong things and getting sued for sexual harrasment. As soon as they realized that I wasn't going to judge them or try to "put them in their places", they completely relaxed.
You could call how they behaved with me "sexual harassment", but I thought it was hilarious. They love talking freely about sex and asking tons of questions and making sex jokes (lots of gas, too). They think about sex a lot! I notice, the men that are held back by women and all are their "rules" tend to be uptight and puffed up.
And don't misunderstand me...I know there are some bullies out there that will use sex as power over women, but I think in general, men are wonderful.
You can learn so much from men. In my experience...they will give and give and give. And they have so much heart.

Sounds like common sense?
But I have watched women put energy into the games and insults and pouting and drama! And you know what really makes me want to put a fork in my eye?!
When women always "read something" negative into what a man says! Blech!

Please, ladies, don't respond to me in malice. I am not bashing all women.
It's just -men learn how to behave around us based on what they are given to work with.

I have found that men are easy to understand and what's great is...if you can't figure something out about him (or men in general)...just ask him. He will gladly tell you.

I am no male expert but the men I have known have been gems.
Any men who would like to expound further on this, I would love to hear it.
And if I am way off...I'd like to hear that as well.


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