I am an open minded Christian who is willing to listen to your argument about David Icke. I have read a lot about David Icke and listened to an interview with Alex Jones. I am of the mind to believe that David Icke is opposed to Christianity and every Semitic religion but I am willing to be convinced otherwise. Show me. I have several questions but primarily want to know if you believe it might also be possible that David Icke is anti-Christ? I would love to debate with a Christian who believes in Icke's
Conspiracy theories about God & religion. It would be a learning experience for me and it might also prove useful to others with similar questions.
I have read enough about Icke to know that he espouses love but I have found David Icke's core beliefs seem to be based on fear? What do you think?
Let me also ask you: Are David Icke's fruits the opposite of love? I tend to see fear as the main fruit of Icke's
Conspiracy books? If you believe as Icke professes then I contend you are the fruit of his labor?
I see the open hatred toward Jews by David Icke believers in this forum as anti-love but you can change my mind. Forgiveness is a Christian virtue but I sense none of it here among the David Icke believers. Show me where any of Icke's followers have shown any forgivenes and love toward Jews? I am waiting for your reply.
From an interview I listened to several weeks ago with David Icke & Alex Jones, I determined that David Icke has taken the next step of going from saying he was the Messiah years ago to denying the existence of Jesus Christ and now even denying even existence of God. Hardly Christian but that said, is David Icke anti-Christ? I believe he is but you can convince me otherwise. Show me.
David Icke believes there are secret socities rule by evil beings that are manipulating the men of the world(and I believe this as well); Icke calls these beings shape-shifting lizards and I call them demons. Not much difference I suppose? What do you think?
David Icke has created a following among neo-Nazis and racists who believe that because of a global
Conspiracy of Jews and alien lizards that they would approve the genocide of all of the Jews on earth to rid the earth of the genetically mixed lizards and Jews. To those who believe this extreme view, will murdering every Jew on earth be the answer to the world's problems? In my opinion, there are evil men in the world of every race and culture and singling out Jews to me is racism of the worst kind. Creating an equal amount of hate toward those evil men who are ruling the earth to overcome them is a losing proposition in my opinion.
What do Christians gain by supporting a Jewish World Conspiracy belief? Only love overcomes fear and I see a lot of fear coming from the David Icke believers who believe in a Global Jewish World Conspiracy in this forum. Do you? It is also my opinion that David Icke feeds the fire of fear and anti-Christ to those who are fearful? The anti-Semitic hate of Icke's "true believers" in this forum is obvious to me. Is it obvious to you?
I believe David Icke preys on spiritually disillusioned Christians & Jews who are looking for something as big as God to fill their lives? From Pat Robertson to David Icke is not a big jump in my mind? They are both racists but Robertson just doesn't believe in UFO's. I personally believe it is very possible that there are UFO's but I do not feel the urge to purge the world of Jews. Many David Icke followers do. David Icke has a grand conspiracy that I believe he offers as a substitute for God and Christ to his fans. David Icke fans seem to be cult-like? Do you see this? Or, is David Icke really like a huge conspiracy magnet who is really just selling fear by borrowing bits and pieces of every conspiracy ever told? On the surface, a lot of what Icke believes could have the taste of truth but does Icke twist the truth into a huge lie that is a bitter pill to swallow? I have a few more additonal questions for Christians who believe that David Icke is God's servant:
A) For Christians who believe David Icke is the real thing, please answer a few more questions for me:
David Icke denies that Jesus of the Bible existed and David Icke claims there is no God. (Alex Jones Intereview)
1) If you say you are a Christian and deny God and Jesus
then you are not a Christian?
(at least admit it)A David Ickian Perhaps but not a
Christian.
2) If you go to the extreme and hate God and hate Christ then
are you anti-God and anti-Christ?
3) If you are a Christian and espouse love but your works are
fear and hate then are fear and hate your god and are fear
and hate your messiah?
Do the math...
B) What are David Icke's works?
1) Hatred- David Icke creates fear and hate.
I believe that Icke is the leader of a crusade that at its
root is based on fear & hate(The Protocols of the Elders of
Zion). Every hate group in the last two centuries have used
the Protocols to justify hate & murder. Do you agree with
Hitler, KKK, The Aryan Nation, Henry Ford, & David Icke that
the Protocols are true? They called themselves Christians too.
2) Icke believes there is no God and he is on crusade to
convince the world of the same. Do you believe this?
At least admit it if you do. There is a big gap between what
David believes and what a Sunday School teacher believes.
3) Jesus of scripture professed love to those who despised him and Jesus of scripture forgave those who murdered him. Where are the David Ickians that are esposing love for their
enemies and forgiveness? I am looking...
If you claim that Christians are hypocrites and you follow David Icke's doctrine, then look inside yourself and see if you are a hypocrite as well. That is a good place to start the healing.
4) Although David Icke claims love is his driving force:
a) Is his love the love of money?
If it is money, what is he selling? Fear? Love?
Christinaity that sells love through fear is not my version of
God's love.
b) or what does David Icke Love? You tell me?
I really want to know because the only thing positive about David Icke that I have found on the world-wide web come from UFO sites and his own web-site. You might try surfing the net and see.
I am willing to debate any of these questions about David Icke and do acknowledge that David Ickes says he believes in love but does he? Ask yourself if love is really Icke's message to the world. I am looking to find a Christian who will answer my questions about David Icke and show me how Icke's arguments are in alignment with Jesus' teachings about God, love, and forgiveness. Where is the love? I am waiting.
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I am an open minded Christian who is willing to listen to your argument about David Icke. I have read a lot about David Icke and listened to an interview with Alex Jones. I am of the mind to believe that David Icke is opposed to Christianity and every Semitic religion but I am willing to be convinced otherwise. Show me. I have several questions but primarily want to know if you believe it might also be possible that David Icke is anti-Christ? I would love to debate with a Christian who believes in Icke's conspiracy theories about God & religion. It would be a learning experience for me and it might also prove useful to others with similar questions.
I have read enough about Icke to know that he espouses love but I have found David Icke's core beliefs seem to be based on fear? What do you think?
Let me also ask you: Are David Icke's fruits the opposite of love? I tend to see fear as the main fruit of Icke's conspiracy books? If you believe as Icke professes then I contend you are the fruit of his labor?
I see the open hatred toward Jews by David Icke believers in this forum as anti-love but you can change my mind. Forgiveness is a Christian virtue but I sense none of it here among the David Icke believers. Show me where any of Icke's followers have shown any forgivenes and love toward Jews? I am waiting for your reply.
From an interview I listened to several weeks ago with David Icke & Alex Jones, I determined that David Icke has taken the next step of going from saying he was the Messiah years ago to denying the existence of Jesus Christ and now even denying even existence of God. Hardly Christian but that said, is David Icke anti-Christ? I believe he is but you can convince me otherwise. Show me.
David Icke believes there are secret socities that are ruling the world(and I believe this as well); Icke calls these beings shape-shifting lizards and I call them demons. Not much difference I suppose? What do you think?
David Icke has created a following of neo-Nazis and racists who believe that because of a global conspiracy of Jews and alien lizards that they would approve the genocide of all of the Jews on earth to rid the earth of the genetically mixed lizards and Jews. Is murdering Jews the answer to the world's problems? In my opinion, there are evil men in the world of every race and culture and singling out Jews to me is racism of the worst kind. Creating an equal amount of hate toward those evil men who are ruling the earth to overcome them is a losing proposition in my opinion. What do Christians gain by supporting a Jewish World Conspiracy belief? Only love overcomes fear and I see a lot of fear coming from the David Icke believers who believe in a Global Jewish World Conspiracy in this forum. Do you? It is also my opinion that David Icke feeds the fire of fear and anti-Christ to those who are fearful? The anti-Semitic hate of Icke's "true believers" in this forum is obvious to me. Is it obvious to you?
I believe David Icke preys on spiritually disillusioned Christians & Jews who are looking for something as big as God to fill their lives? From Pat Robertson to David Icke is not a big jump in my mind? They are both racists but Robertson just doesn't believe in UFO's. I personally believe it is very possible that there are UFO's but I do not feel the urge to purge the world of Jews. Many David Icke followers do. David Icke has a grand conspiracy that I believe he offers as a substitute for God and Christ to his fans. David Icke fans seem to be cult-like? Do you see this? Or, is David Icke really like a huge conspiracy magnet who is really just selling fear by borrowing bits and pieces of every conspiracy ever told? On the surface, a lot of what Icke believes could have the taste of truth but does Icke twist the truth into a huge lie that is a bitter pill to swallow? I have a few more questions for Christians who believe that David Icke is God's servant:
A) For Christians who believe David Icke is the real thing, please answer a few more questions for me:
David Icke denies that Jesus of the Bible existed and David Icke claims there is no God. (Alex Jones Intereview)
1) If you say you are a Christian and deny God and Jesus
then you are not a Christian?
(at least admit it)A David Ickian Perhaps but not a
Christian.
2) If you go to the extreme and hate God and hate Christ then
are you anti-God and anti-Christ?
3) If you are a Christian and espouse love but your works are
fear and hate then are fear and hate your god and are fear
and hate your messiah?
Do the math...
B) What are David Icke's works?
1) Hatred- David Icke creates fear and hate.
I believe that Icke is the leader of a crusade that at its
root is based on fear & hate(The Protocols of the Elders of
Zion). Every hate group in the last two centuries have used
the Protocols to justify hate & murder. Do you agree with
Hitler, KKK, The Aryan Nation, Henry Ford, & David Icke that
the Protocols are true? They called themselves Christians too.
2) Icke believes there is no God and he is on crusade to
convince the world of the same. Do you believe this?
At least admit it if you do. There is a big gap between what
David believes and what a Sunday School teacher believes.
3) Jesus of scripture professed love to those who despised him and Jesus of scripture forgave those who murdered him. Where are the David Ickians that are esposing love for their
enemies and forgiveness? I am looking...
If you claim that Christians are hypocrites and you follow David Icke's doctrine, then look inside yourself and see if you are a hypocrite as well. That is a good place to start the healing.
4) Although David Icke claims love is his driving force:
a) Is his love the love of money?
If it is money, what is he selling? Fear? Love?
Christinaity that sells love through fear is not my version of
God's love.
b) or what does David Icke Love? You tell me?
I really want to know because the only thing positive about David Icke that I have found on the world-wide web come from UFO sites and his own web-site. You might try surfing the net and see.
I am willing to debate any of these questions about David Icke and do acknowledge that David Ickes says he believes in love but does he? Ask yourself if love is really Icke's message to the world. I am looking to find a Christian who will answer my questions about David Icke and show me how Icke's arguments are in alignment with Jesus' teachings about God, love, and forgiveness. Where is the love? I am waiting.