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The Secret Societies that we know of today are not modern, they are ANCIENT (more ancient than we know). They serve the DARK FORCES (the physical manifestation of the principalities of satan that have infiltrated the "Church"/temple religious system that has always been taught to us).
FOMENKO (russian historian/mathematician) claims that the modern form of human life (Homo Sapien) has existed for only 1200 years (human life form HOMO ERECTUS preceded us) and some people believe that planet earth might be BILLIONS of years old. The falsification of history (our understanding of history) has confused our understanding of scripture.
The first dispensation of divine blessings and gifts from the creator/deity was creation itself.
The FULL and eternal dispensation did not happen until Jesus came to earth. That is why scripture says that Jesus is the…………..”whole FULNESS of deity” (Colossians 2:18).
Jesus is the ETERNAL dispensation of divinity…..(the CHRIST that Moses chose to suffer for, and the eternal extension of the deity in the Garden of Eden).
God is not LIMITED by "TIME", but He does RECOGNIZE its importance to HUMANITY and that it is of practical meaning (but to Him "a day is as a thousand years").
In these “last days”, we need the new paradigm (reference point) of ‘ETERNITY’ for the proper understanding of scripture properly.
Deu 33:27 The eternal God is your dwelling place, and underneath are the everlasting arms. And he thrust out the enemy before you, and said DESTROY
Heb 2:14 that through death he might DESTROY him who has the power of death, that is, the devil,
Rom 16:26 according to the command of the ETERNAL GOD (this is the age of eternity, no longer the age of TIME).
Eph 1:10 as a plan for the fulness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
When Jesus came to earth (“in the fullness of time”….the completion and end of TIME), He ended the age of time (“He came at the end of the age to put away sin”….”and in the age to come, eternal life”.
The law illustrated many principles/precepts of good and proper living. God doesn't want us to be the kind of person who needs to be TOLD what to do, He wants us to be LOVERS OF GOODNESS..,we are to walk in LIBERTY (Law of Liberty, James 1:25 and 2:12) and be our own masters.
Psa 119:4 and I shall walk at liberty, for I have sought thy precepts.
Romans 2:26 So, if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?
Titus 1:8 but hospitable, a LOVER OF GOODNESS, master of himself, upright, holy, and self-controlled,
The 10 commandment law was for the Jews who sought circumcision (the commandments are NOT for us, we shall only KEEP the PRECEPTS/principles illustrated/outlined by them.
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This is a reply to # 2,361,155There is alot more that has never been taught. Churchgoers simply want to believe what pastors/clergy and scholars write AND ALLOW US ALL TO BELIEVE (they were taught by those before them who believed all the false and traditional teachings unknowingly by the THE DARK FORCES OF SATAN).
I've spent the last 5 or 6 years writing (mainly on one other "Christian" forum) about the real truth of scripture. The DARK FORCES (PRINCIPALITiES) ARE CONTROLLED/INFLUENCED BY SATAN TO COVER UP the truth of many things including history itself.
Look here...The Late Bronze Age Collapse in the Agean Region was what we read about in Revelation (the merchant ships in Rev. )…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis
The Battle of Megiddo and the Sea peoples…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_(15th_century_BC)
Read also…..Tel Megiddo (Har-mageddon)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Megiddo
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This is a reply to # 2,361,161Act 9:2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
Act 19:9 but when some were stubborn and disbelieved, speaking evil of the Way
Act 19:23 About that time there arose no little stir concerning the Way.
Act 24:14 But this I admit to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the law or written in the prophets,
Act 24:22 But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way,
Many scholars/researchers have noticed overwhelmingly that the principles of the TAO and what Jesus taught are strikingly similar…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao
You'll notice the the ENGLISH translation of the name for the TAO belief/ideology is THE WAY....and Jesus described Himself in JOHN 14:6 AS...
"the way".
SOCRATES taught the youth of ATHENS the principles of peace, truth, justice, etc. (righteousness).
Apostle Paul also spoke to the Athenians (in Acts 17) and realized that he need not mention Jesus's name to these righteous people.
I found out that there is also a book called....
Paul, the new Socrates in Athens
RIGHTUOSNESS (truth, justice, and peace is the ideology/spirit of God.
...,it is THE WAY we should live.
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This is a reply to # 2,361,165Act 9:2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
Act 19:9 but when some were stubborn and disbelieved, speaking evil of the Way
Act 19:23 About that time there arose no little stir concerning the Way.
Act 24:14 But this I admit to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the law or written in the prophets,
Act 24:22 But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way,
Many scholars/researchers have noticed overwhelmingly that the principles of the TAO and what Jesus taught are strikingly similar…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao
In the scripture books that have been made available to us, we are offered no clues as to Jesus’s whereabouts for 18 years (and we don’t seem to care,.…shame on us). We have rumors that He was in ancient China and India (but our teachers NEVER BOTHERED TO FIND OUT).
Ancient China was “Christian” in 2500 B.C…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIf9ov5MWZo
Ancient Chinese worship Shang Dei of the bible (Shang Dei in their language)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLyVAE_JYFQ
Doctor Eric Cline about the year civilization collapsed (1177 BC)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4
Jesus was the only son that WAS begotten BY God the Father (offspring begotten). Jesus was the FIRSTBORN son of the Father….(and we are BROTHERS OF JESUS).
We are NOT to be slaves/servants (the Jews were that), we are to be SONS of God.
Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren.
I am not asking ANYONE to believe what I write (it is completely your choice to love the truth or not,…God wants it that WAY…..and I don’t care).
2Co 9:7 Each one must do as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Philemon 1:14 but I preferred to do nothing without your consent in order that your goodness might not be by compulsion but of your own free will.
So, when we LOVE, honor, and cherish THE TRUTH, we will BE SAVED….
2Thessalonians 2:10 because they refused to love the truth AND SO BE SAVED.
LOVE, honor, and cherish THE TRUTH in order to saved.
Let His ETERNAL SPIRIT teach you to always do the right thing so that your conscience will always be clear (purified).
All verses are from the RSV.
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This is a reply to # 2,361,161Back in the age if time, God dispensed His gifts and blessings differently than today in the age of eternity (the age of grace....the JESUS DISPENSATION). God reformed His relationship to us (the "reformation" happened when Jesus was on the cross)....
The concept of "TIME" is a very interesting topic, but I don't think it can accurately be comprehended.
The book that might be described or summing up and EXPLAINING REALITY (the bible) can be thought of as describing 2 (TWO) TIMES/EPOCHS.
Jesus was sent to earth "as a plan for THE FULNESS OF TIME" (yes, the END OF TIME). He ended the age of time,....and also began the age of eternity).....He is the ETERNAL SABBATH OF ETERNAL GOD......
Deuteronomy 33:27 .....ETERNAL GOD...
Jesus "THE CHRIST" the lion of Judah became IMMANUEL the LAMB OF GOD (that's what the book of Revelation is all about ....the lioGalatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.
Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
n lays down with the lamb).
GOD transcends TIME (to us humans, TIME is an IMAGINARY? and SUPERNATURAL concept...I THINK).....or is it a psychological manifestation of our FINITE minds????
Revelation 8:12 seems to have meaning that we never considered.....
https://www.history.com/news/536-volcanic-eruption-fog-eclipse-worst-year#:~:text=But%20in%20536%20A.D.%2C%20much,say%2C%20the%20literal%20Dark%20Age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jerusalem_(536)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/536
The volcanic winter of 536…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536
https://www.thoughtco.com/dust-veil-environmental-disaster-in-europe-171628
https://medievalreporter.com/worst-year-ever-536/
https://1260d.com/2021/12/08/locust-of-rev-9-and-the-year-of-hell-536-ad/
https://planetcalc.com/8535/
…the time differential (“one third”) of Revelation 8:12 is likely the switch to the GREGORIAN calendar from the JULIAN…..(more extensive investigation is required by historians and chronolgists).
https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/repeating.html?year=536&country=13
Revelation 8:11 The name of the star is Wormwood . A third of the waters became Wormwood , and many men died of the water, because it was made bitter.
Revelation 8:12 The fourth angel blew his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, and a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of their light was darkened; a third of the day was kept from shining, and likewise a third of the night.
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This is a reply to # 2,450,631Many people in the human race (or SOCIETY however it's easier for you to understand) don't REALLY want to know 'TRUTH' (because truth is non-negotiable and cannot be manipulated or tailored for ones' own purpose).
TRUTH will often be rejected (it is simply HUMAN NATURE to be self-detrimental). Of course it is unwise and self destructive to reject truth, but nevertheless, it is the human tendency.
....so, even thought what I write is TRUTH, many people will tend to reject, ridicule, and mock both my message and me myself.....
.....BUT it is always wiser to LISTEN AND LEARN (simply hear me out instead of mock......humility is the way to WISDOM).
It would be educational and beneficial to you to read my recent writings labelled "ALTERNATIVE UNDERSTANDING" because even though I have always revealed 'truths' that have not been taught, discovered, known, or properly understood for 2,000 years, I have only had the opportunity to teach PIECEMEAL (meaning that I could only teach about ONE VERSE or PASSAGE AT A TIME instead of PUT IT ALL TOGETHER)...... my recent writings do just that (they put it all together).
Recently I just discovered that there is a name for what I've always been writing about, it is called 'SUPERCESSIONISM' (the concept/understanding that modern "christianity" supercedes Judaism and is the REAL true spiritual Israel of God).......
.....because the human tendency is TO REJECT TRUTH (most people have become famous/popular 'BIGSHOTS' by sticking the status quo standard of what has always been taught by the teachers if 'RELIGION' and don't give up or surrender their fame), ....."cristianity" has been stagnant for the last 2,000 years and has simply SETTLED and accepted the lies that have been taught (always "SEEING" the words on the pages of the bible but never "UNDERSTANDING").
....BE WISE....you have already taken a very courageous and admirable step of faith by coming to an ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE website.
In order to get a general understanding of what SUPERCESSIONISM, simply put SUPERCESSIONISM WIKIPEDIA in the search bar of your browser,...if you want more understanding about it, check biblehub.com and JEWISH VIRTUAL LIBRARY.com.
The teachers of religion and dogma (aka 'religionists') and the theologians, scholars, clergy, commentary writers, bible companies and everyone making money have always been teaching what will keep them in business and whatever is necessary to keep the collection plate full.......
...so don't just read my recent writings, but learn more about SUPERCESSIONISM.
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This is a reply to # 2,361,152If a person wants to know about God, the Bible can tell them all that they need to know (2nd Timothy 3:16,17).- Re: So, you want to know the truth? ... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 2,361,216183719,
You don't seem to be very courageous or smart (because YOU didn't ACTUALLY express any constructive or practical advice or opinions of YOU, nor did you clearly state an objection to any topic/subject), you simply took the 'bible stance' against me without clarification (pure resentment/hate ego-aggression).
This is a DEBATE forum whether you like it or not (actually it would better be categorized a DISCUSSION forum because the truth is non-negotiable).
Don't be ashamed to SPEAK UP and have an opinion (satan WANTS you to have low-self esteem and be scared of actually SAYING what you have to say).
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This is a reply to # 2,361,609You certainly don't seem to be a brainiac. If you have trouble finding something intelligent to say, at least have enough self-respect not to say anything at all.
Your reaction to the things I have been writing is by no way unique or even uncommon. TRUTH (real truth) is contrary to human nature and considered subversive and uncomfortable ("harsh" is an understatement).
The status quo for humanity is that MAN'S KINGDOM shall reign supreme and "CHURCH"/clergy and BOOKS shall go unharmed and unchallenged so that they can be bowed to for life.....they are tools of the dark.....(master satan for this world).
About 5 years ago, I encountered a lot of resistance to the things I write, I was about to just GIVE UP, but The Lord kept me in the game.
ALWAYS at the last moment He showed me something (even ONE WORD) that somebody wrote that showed that they WERE listening and learning (MANY TIMES).
Some people only express a feeling because it is UNCOMFORTABLE to read/understand something that is contrary to everything that they hold dear (no matter how irrational their beliefs).
Even against their better judgement, they will choose to stay SAFE in their comfort zone where they grew up (romantically/sentimentally connected to their HERITAGE),.....so they react HEROICALLY.
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This is a reply to # 2,361,630The REAL reason that God destroyed Sodom and Gemorrah was NOT their sexual perversion (yes, all the naysayer ‘know it alls’ that don’t like what I write are in for a shock)…..you are perfectly welcome NOT TO believe what I write, I won’t be disappointed.
The real REASON THAT God destroyed those 2 cities is that even though they were blessed abundantly and had a sufficiency of food (“surfeit of food”), they did not care for the poor and needy (God is not a republican).
Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.
WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT LIES for centuries because the dark forces of humanity don’t want us to know the (real truth) of anything (they don’t want us to even BE ABLE to figure out that we have been taught lies.
Likewise, what the Romans really did wrong is also kept a secret (the dark do not want you or anyone to “draw near” to God and be rewarded (God is NOT a punisher, He is a REWARDER of those who seek Him)”.
Heb 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him. For whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
Jas 4:8 Draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you men of double mind.
What the Romans did wrong is that they KNEW GOD (they had the scriptures), everything that they did to honor The Lord (including offering thanks) was NOT ACCEPTED by God because it was all MECHANICAL AND PHONY (going through
the motions……LIKE US).
Rom 1:21 for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened.
The house of Israel only had ONE “husband” (housemaster/caretaker…..JEHOVAH) and was an IMPURE BRIDE….THIS was why the Jews needed to be introduced to JESUS…..we have three (mathematical sum ‘trinity’).
2Co 11:2 I betrothed you to Christ to present you as a pure bride to her one
husband…..(“her”= Israel).
>>>>>THIS IS, IN EFFCT, A NEW FAITH…..a “faith for faith”…. (WE are NOT JEWS)<<Gal 3:28 there is neither male nor female
Rom 1:17 the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith
When the Jews left Egypt they brought with them many pagan beliefs and practices. They didn’t just make the golden calf, but always kept their habits of idolatry.
Jer 3:8 She saw that for all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel, I had sent her away with a decree of divorce; yet her false sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the harlot.
Heb 11:26 He considered abuse suffered for the Christ greater wealth than the treasures of Egypt…..
…BUT….whatever Moses said to them, the
Jews DIDN’T listen to him.
Act 7:39 Our fathers refused to obey him, but thrust him aside, and in their hearts they turned to Egypt,
The term/phrase “SON OF” means “ACCOMPLISHED STUDENT OF” (like ‘chip off the old block’)….be a “son of” God only, not a “son of man” and his ways, AND CERTAINLY don’t be a son of all the perditious and heretical teachings that we have been taught in ‘RELIGIOSITY’ (because you see what their lot is).
Jhn 17:12 and none of them is lost but the son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled.
2Th 2:3 the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition (if you ignore the law of liberty, God considers you LAWLESS).
It is not simply that we have MISTAKEN INTERPRETATIONS, but the pastors/clergy have simply not done their responsibility and made sure that they didn’t pass on to us the same old lies of darkness that have been circulated for centuries…
1 John 2:27
but the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you; as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie, just as it has taught you, abide in him.
So if you care to look inside of you and find the anointing seed that God left in all of us (His ‘DNA” if you will…..or ‘spiritual common sense’), then you can have THE ANOINTING (it’s not only for some people, but you can’t be a naysayer).
Psa 74:21 Let not the downtrodden be put to shame; let the poor and needy praise thy name.
Psa 109:16 For he did not remember to show kindness, but pursued the poor and needy and the brokenhearted to their death.
Pro 31:9 Open your mouth, judge righteously, maintain the rights of the poor and needy.
Isa 41:17 When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue is parched with thirst, I the LORD will answer them, I the God of Israel will not forsake
Eze 18:12 oppresses the poor and needy, commits robbery, does not restore the pledge, lifts up his eyes to the idols, commits abomination,
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This is a reply to # 2,361,820Okay. Again, White Tulip, you don't possess or say anything intelligible to discuss (no ideas/concepts, OBJECTIONS, REASONING, OR INTELLIGENT OPINIONS of your own)......nothing that can facilitate practical and productive decision making.
You are not catching on, nobody can communicate with YOU or present a counter argument (answer to) if you present nothing of YOUR mind.
Make a point!!!!!!- Re: COMMUNICATION is paramount! TRUE... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 2,361,864Declare your humanity and be recognized as an intelligence.
Time is running out...
The last generation????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGRIqBokmyQ
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-upgrading-humans-will-become-the-next-billion-dollar-industry-2017-04-03
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This is a reply to # 2,361,820Who REALLY wants to know/realize the truth about reality/history?....hmmmm????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347to413eVU
The Jews are not what/who we think they are.
When Jesus said "Woe to you scribes and pharisees...", He called them children of hell.
...but thus is not taught to us, it wouldn't be useful to us to know the TRUTH because we want to live a lie and continue doing what ever we like regardless of it's morality/merit.
The MONEYCHANGER MASTERS that rule us don't let us seek the real truth because all they want is our money and labor (we are slaves of the MONEYCHANGERS).
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This is a reply to # 2,361,152You should Google search: catholicguidance blog.
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This is a reply to # 2,361,152No doubt many people will think my observation of "the age of time" and the "age of eternity" is insignificant Of course).
Basically, the Old Testament is the HEBREW BIBLE (it does CONTAIN many things that can be useful to us in understanding the NEW Testament).
The Jewish sacrifices used "the blood of bulls and goats", but that was insufficient and INADEQUATE for the forgiveness of sins, so The Heavenly Father sent us a LAMB.
The Jews only knew God according to TIME (that is why their Sabbath was a TIME PERIOD (sundown Friday to sundown Saturday). OUR Sabbath is ETERNAL (JESUS is the ETERNAL SABBATH and ETERNAL COVENANT).
(do you really think that "TIME" had nothing to do with God? He is a cosmic reality).
There is no "OBEY"/duty in the law we are to abide by (law of liberty, James 1:25-2:12), but many refuse to abide/live by it, so God considers them LAWLESS.
Abide by the LAW OF LIBERTY. It is not an OPTION, it is a mandate law.
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This is a reply to # 2,367,057It is amazing how many times I've pointed out to people that the bible (man's collection of scripture books approved for release) CLEARLY states that the 10 commandment law is dead and gone.....yet people seem to be infatuated with death.....
What is written in clear black and white on the pages of scripture must be paid attention to and lived by. If you refuse to live by the new law, then you will be considered to be LAWLESS (a “man of lawlessness”).
Jesus spoke to the Jews in figures of speech.
Jhn 16:25 "I have said this to you IN FIGURES; the hour is coming when I shall no longer speak to you in figures but tell you plainly of the Father.
Jesus abolished the 10 commandment law (the law of sin)….
Eph 2:15 by abolishing in his flesh the law of commandments and ordinances
2Ti 1:10 our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.
If that is not clear enough…(the law of sin caused DEATH)….
Heb 2:14 that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil,
Jas 1:25 But he who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer that forgets but a doer that acts, he shall be blessed in his doing.
JAMES 2:12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged under the law of liberty.
All verses are from the RSV.
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