My lyme disease test results 
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I have had my lyme disease results back and the western blot section of the test was negative.
For the Elispot test, I tested positive for borrelia b. full antigen & borrelia b. OSP-Mix.
My T Cells CD3+ (%) was 82.05%. A healthy range is between 62 - 80 %.
My CD57+NK Cells tested as 54/ul. A healthy range is between 100-360 ul.
The following formulation was made:
''The result of the CD57 + NM-Cells count indicates chronic immune-suppression, which can be caused from borellia burgodorferi or other bacteria like chlamydia pnemoniae or mycoplasma pneumoniae.
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I am immunosuppressed and I now need to find out exactly what sort of bacterial infection I have before confirming it as lyme. The lab that ran this test is very unhelpful. I have contacted a special diseases doctor with my results but it will be about two weeks until I get to see him.
I am a little shocked by this, but not surprised. I have been dealing with a very complex set of symptomatological problems for most of my adult life. Now my persistance is starting to pay off as each self-funded test I have helps me get further to the truth.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,351,126Wow, I never tested positive for the lyme disease specific bacteria borrelia b. This could very well be the cause for you. I'll have to check if my CD57 level was tested in the past.
Yesterday I wrote a post with link to how someone here cured EC by taking the drug Lamprene for leprosy. He visted a top clinic. The post didn't mention why the doctor prescribed the drug, but I'm guessing because it was very effective against resistant bacteria infections like leprosy.- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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This is a reply to # 2,351,128Longterm, I appreciate the response. I am a little in shock over this and it doesn't prove conclusively one way or the other, which is the most worrying thing. I would rather know straight but the test is written in such a way not to fully contextualise the results. The lab is not responding to my request for further information; I suppose they feel they have met their part of the contract and it's for me to find out more using other means. It does feel pretty horrible.
If you are going to check your results make sure it is CD57- NK Cells.
Here is a thread discussing the issue.
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Lyme-Disease/What-else-causes-low-CD57/show/772748
I am going to spend some time registering for lyme discussion forums and ask more there.
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I just noticed something on my lyme tests. Maybe I didn't notice it before because I was just looking for positive results. It shows EQUIVOCAL for IFA, B Burgdorferi G/M/A. In the past, positive EBV test results changed to EQUIVOCAL. So, maybe the IFA, B Burgdorferi used to be positive for me. Really, it means borderline positive. However, the Multiplex B Burgdorferi test is negative. The EQUIVOCAL for the other test is suspicious, though.
The CD57- NK Cells sounds familiar to me. I might have had that test done in lyme test panel but lost that page. I'm going to call the lab to see if that test was done. Was this test part of your lyme test panel?
I had the lyme test panel done after I took strong antifungal medication. I just read that an Equivocal blood test result may occur during acute infection of something. Perhaps my immune system became stronger while on the antifungal so it started to show more positive results for lyme? See the information described below. I wonder if this is why my infectious disease doctor thought I had lyme disease.
"Many times people do test negative - this can happen if your immune system is run-down as the positive results are based on your antibodies in your blood. If you're immune system isn't functioning well, then you won't have the antibodies.
Sometimes after a few weeks of treatment, a Dr. will repeat the test and it may then show up as a positive.
People do test negative and still have lyme disease.
But, it's important to see a LLMD to determine this."
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"I have heard that a lot of chapped lips are actually due to bacterial infections as opposed to ordinary dry skin, so if that's true Lyme's patients ought to be prone to this. The most helpful thing I've found for this is to use Neosporin as lip balm. I don't know if it is the antibacterial action or just the emollient that helps so much, but I strongly feel it is the combination. As I've gotten deeper into my herbal studies, I've been making my own lip balm with coconut oil and clove oil, both of which are antibacterial and antiviral and they also give me much better results than plain lip balm."
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This is a reply to # 2,351,154Here are snapshots:
I can supply you the whole pages privately if you wish.
the bottom part is cut off mid-sentence as it moves onto the next page.- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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here it is continued..
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This is a reply to # 2,351,164Tergot,
I've had all those viruses listed CMV, EBV, VZV (I even developed shingles at a young age) Coxsackie, and HSV (cold sores). What does this imply?- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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This is a reply to # 2,351,167Found the PM function and pinged you a message.
I will ask the question tomorrow when I see the nutritionist. I don't know what this means at the moment and how it relates to other oppotunistic infections/co-infections. I suppose I should determine this before considering a lyme protocol because viruses are not affected by Antibiotics .
Thinking logically; surely only HIV and Lyme have the ability to suppress the immune system? (T Killer cells in this case) those viruses do not.
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This is a reply to # 2,351,163chronic immune suppression. This is very interesting result.. please keep us informed on what your doctors say regarding these findings. Also may i ask a quick question how do you sleep? i.e are you getting good sleep and regulary? my sleep is an issue because i am a light sleeper i wake up several times during the night which i know isn't good for my immune system.
Also i am curious do people who have th-2 immune driven conditions have also a known weakened immune system?
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- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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This is a reply to # 2,351,217Honestly? I am always tired. The earlier I get to sleep the more I wake up during the night and the more difficult it is for me to fall asleep.
I've become accustomed to going to bed later just so I fall asleep easier and only feel partly tired the next day. If I go to sleep early I know I won't fall sleep till later and I will wake repeatedly. So I'm used to being a walking zombie.
I almost never feel refreshed after sleep. I can't recall a day where I've felt I've had enough sleep, no matter how much or how little I get.
I'll ask your question to my nutritionist as I'd like to know that myself. My immediate impression would be that the activation of TH1 and TH2 subsets is likely caused by overactivity of the immune system not suppression. I think there is some difference between an inappropriate immune response to non-pathological antigens and the suppression of defensive cells in the body. If a person does not have lyme but has th2 driven conditions you always have to factor in environmental considerations like the lack of microbial challenge, dietary change that upset the microbial balance in the gut.
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- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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This is a reply to # 2,351,260So I am looking to get my case escalated to an infectious diseases specialist. I think they may be taking this seriously now. Follow up shortly.
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This is a reply to # 2,351,314Tergot,
The lab had a copy of my CD57 & NK Cell test resulta. Both results are borderline.
CD57 Absolute= 46%
CD57 NK Cells Lympho= 3.5%- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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This is a reply to # 2,351,322I don't understand the % values.
My CD57 + NK was measured in ul.
What are the healthy cohort ranges for your results ?- Re: My lyme disease test results longterm
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This is a reply to # 2,351,343My doctor's office gave me that information from my file over the phone. I just looked at lab's website to check out the normal ranges.
CD57 NK Cells (Absolute Count/ul)
<40 = low
40-98 = borderline
>98 = normal
My result was 46.
CD57 NK Cells (% of Lymphocytes)
<2.26 = low
2.26 - 4.65= borderline
>4.65 = normal
My result was 3.5%.
If you find out what "borderline" could mean as far as conditions go, please update.
I read "HHV6 virus can also lower cd57." Since I've had several viruses, maybe this is why my number was lower?- Re: My lyme disease test results Tergot223
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This is a reply to # 2,351,347I think in your case it warrants an borrelia elispot test from an up-to-date laboratory and a seperate HHV6 test if that is what you think you may have.
My nutritionist does think it is plausible for these coinfections to take hold and stay in the body for many years due to the immunosuppression from the borrelia. So I could have one or more of those coinfections, and that could be the reason for my ill health; even my EC.
Very worrying that the basal range you mention from your records is considerably different to my lab's reference range. I suppose there may be some discrepancy between the prescribed ranges from lab to lab but not by that much!
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This is a reply to # 2,351,413I live in the USA. Do you live in the UK? They have different lyme disease testing.
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This is a reply to # 2,351,421I cannot say much more at the moment. I'm seeing a infectious diseases doctor shortly. I'll post updates as and when they come through.
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