On one hand, a water fast of 8, 14 or 21 days should get rid of a smaller cancerous tumor thorugh autolysis.

On the other hand, a raw vegan + juicing diet, implementation of the Gerson therapy, etc. supposedly helps with cancer.

So what is the best relationship between the two?

First, it is very difficult to nail down exact number of days of water fast to eliminate tumors through Autolysis because we are all different and different pre-fast history of the faster. Same way it is very difficult to say that Gerson therapy cures all cancers for the same reasons.

Two water fasts did not do this for me as of yet. However, in this video, Dan MacDonald at 13:30 says that when there was insufficient nutrition between fast, the body rejected the fast to some extent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8FxjTaqbmU

Does that mean that a big blast of vegetable juice after fasting, continued for 3 months, and then a new fast, is the proper staging? Does that rebuilding enable you to dig deeper?

It is very unclear.

We have talked about this a few times. If one fast does not work, it is advisable to re-feed on raw foods for at least the same number of days as days fasted and then fast again. I love Lou Corona and Dan McDonald and they are right to some extent. Also same thing applies Jon Barron’s article. They do not talk about fasting to completion. The true hunger only returns when the body has done its job of cleaning. Vegetarians and vegans do much better with fasting with water only.

I am also a bit worried that I have not regained the weight I lost from fasting. The first fast alone made be lose 25 pounds. The second fast didn't keep me lower than that, but I am still 30 pounds lower than I was before the first fast. This is not good. I would like to go back to my original weight.

I do not think you are emaciated but it may help you to read the following:

This is what Dr. Shelton says……

Great emaciation is due to impairment of health and the degree of emaciation is commonly proportionate to the degree of impairment. Such cases frequently make no gains in weight until after a fast. "Starvation from overfeeding" is a common, but rarely recognized phenomenon. Large numbers of habitually over-fed individuals have long since lost their power of digesting food at all, or they do it in a very imperfect manner. Oswald said of this: "The overfed organism is under-nourished to a degree that reveals itself in the rapid emaciation of the patient." Only remedy to this is to fast again.

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I prefer juice fasting not water fasting as Dr Schulze who cured 90% of his incurable patients advocates.

he says if well go vegan if sick go 100% raw vegan and if ill or dying soon do juice fasting and stay on it till well.

Dave the raw food trucker who cured his cancer and lots more did one I think 120 days long. I know he did 100 day ones.

I am now in stage 4 with aggressive cancer told not long to live. I will be doing juice fast soon and plan on doing the grape cure of only taking in grape juice and eating grapes for maybe 10-14 days then am doing Dr Christopher's protocol for yeast (Candida killing and leaky gut healing f

http://articles.herballegacy.com/natural-protocol-for-systemic-yeast-overgrowth-and-leaky-gut-syndrome/

I then plan to do regular juice fasting (including potassium broths) and the incurables program of Dr Schulze plus other supplements etc I am doing.

the longest I ever juice fasted was 2 60 day ones but hope to get to 100 days or more this time.

I have found juice fasting works as a reverse yoyo where I lose a lot of weight then gain 1/2 of it back putting my body at a lower setpoint theory weight.

I have read when one adds lot of green juices one does not have the problem of losing so much weight.

They can be greens with lemon or lime or ginger if no sugar wanted as with the yeast cleanse above or mixture of any fruit with any greens'

Some greens include kale, collard greens mustard greens, spinach, romaine, dare leafy lettuces, arugala (not romaine darker ones) leafy tops of carrots, beets, daikon, parsley root, etc, parsley, watercress, broccoli, broccoli-rab, celery, any Asian market green and wild greens like burdock or violet, daisy leaves, lamb's quarter, plantain (leafy not the banana), cleavers etc

to these add any fruit such as any citrus, berries,. apples. pears, dates, prunes, mango. papaya. pineapple, peaches, nectarines, etc

to kill cancer stem cells be sure to include any berries especially raspberries, grapes, broccoli and broccoli sprouts, pomegranates as these all kill cancer stem cells (also turmeric and green tea) one can take herb teas as well on a juice fast.

Hopefully adding a lot of green drinks (and green smoothies when not fasting will help...Victoria Boutenko said this helps one not have the lose a lot of weight then gain it back and forth so might try that.

I know the lady who wrote the juice cure book tried everything and did long water fasts but did not help her cancer till she did the grape cure which she details in her book

http://www.amazon.com/The-Grape-Cure-Johanna-Brandt/dp/1570672792

Now we know resveratrol in grapes does a lot to kill cancer stem cells which are the only cancer cells which spread to different organs etc and metastasize. resveratrol is also found in cranberries but would not drink or eat too much o these as prolific author-r Jensen who lived to be 100 years old and was on of the teachers of Dr Schulze said cranberries are not good for one's health and one of the few berries birds would not even eat.
 
In my post on here a few pages back with cheap in the title, I list other foods that help kill cancer stem cells etc..I would include as many as can in the juice fasting.

that post is here

http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2244226#i

If trying to fix another disease, get the book food your miracle medicine and look up what foods help that disease and put those in your juicing/juice fasting.

If you can find a look inside the book many have the index where you can get some idea of what foods help a particular disease without buying the book but it is only $4 shipping and all and well worth the price based on 10,000 medical studies. also tells what foods to avoid with each disease.

http://www.amazon.com/Food--Your-Miracle-Medicine-Jean-Carper/dp/0060984244/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449159541&sr=1-1&keywords=food+miracle+medicine

May need to paste and copy the links into search engine as they don;t seem to be clicking right