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Is the earth flat?
Most worshippers would think that this issue of a flat earth is completely irrelevant to FAITH, but the ability to learn TRUTH is exactly what it is all "UNDERSTANDING" and FAITH about.
Alot of information about earth's history (archaeolgical discoveries) has been covered up for centuries. Some scripture verses bring the issue to doubt and the BOOK OF ENOCH also offers some light on the matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtexVioLrXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6CPrGHpmMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwPDKj04fAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIJo2Pp46hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM2RL5ptkYE
https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEAKVPvzGRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCqThIOc4QQ
Islam and the flat earth…..and the HEBREW perception of the universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pgs7Km3XkM
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Been there, I know this subject must be important to you or you would not have posted this twice. I can't guarantee that I will be able to watch/read all of those links you have provided.
I understand truth is important to being able to live our lives as effectively as possible...but understanding His TRUTH comes first and foremost.
Now having said that, I realize you may be a little like me and want the christian discussion to also include how it applies to our everyday lives. I have tried to do that but....
We have to be careful that all this truth seeking does not interfere with seeking the most important TRUTH out there. There are still many that need to be reached with the simple gospel...no matter how "milk of the word" it may be.
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This is a reply to # 2,287,451You are right, refreshed, but it seems that the toughest challenge about getting others to understand truth is that many worshipers simply refuse to leave the book on the shelf and actually LIVE Godly and peaceful.
The first step to discover REAL truth is to OPEN YOUR MIND.
When coming to Curezone, I found that accepting alternative medicine requires a step of faith (an open mind). It seems that ALTERNATIVE UNDERSTANDING of scripture is often found felt as SUBVERSIVE and many people reject UNDERSTANDING.
Topics such as a FLAT EARTH/DOME are not just challenging, but also supposedly have roots in the Torah and The Book of Enoch. Admiral Byrd was very open about a HOLLOW earth and MASTEDONS (he saw these when flying over the Antartic) when he was interviewed on t.v.....(not the same as FLAT earth, but the DOME of Enoch seems to have a similar explanation).
One of those videos also shows 75 verses that refer to a flat earth.
So, this is to be considered an exercise to an OPEN MIND.
...(the "GOSPEL OF " salvation needs to be FULLY understood/defined as the "WORD OF TRUTH" in order to know that JESUS is the "WORD OF GOD".
Rev 19:13 He is clad in a robe dipped in blood, and THE NAME by which he is called is The Word of God....RSV
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Well it's phrases like "open your mind" that sends many christians packing. Ears close. It sounds too new age...having to do with using an empty mind to meditate with. This is part of the problem and why we don't get very far in our communications sometimes. I realize you are not using that phrase to mean that...but just wanted to use it as an example of part of the problem here.
Mastedons? Well now my interest has piqued. That first video is pretty dry. Perhaps it's too early to understand what you mean about a spiritual connection?
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This is a reply to # 2,287,573Ok, I watched all the videos that you posted, so no one would say that I didn't put in the time and effort to try and be opened minded.
I understand, that any lie told to us is not helpful in being able to make a decent decision for ourselves. I realize that there are people who think they are like gods, that do not think certain info is beneficial in the hands of the uneducated or unworthy masses.
That being said...God Himself does not want all His info out among people who can not...or will not understand and use such info correctly either. The book of Enoch even pointed that out. The difference being that we can trust God to have our best interests at heart.
That is why I believe it is so important to believe God and put our trust in Him completely. Knowing we are in His hands no matter what happens, for we will not be able to disprove all the lies of the devil in our lifetime. There will always be things we miss. Thinking we can out smart satan in all his ways is not possible. As soon as you have figured out one, he has already put in place a another plan to make you into a liar about what you discovered.
Either we believe the bible or not. It tells how we have to go through all of this deception. Now...do we just rest on laurels and ignore what is happening, not take note and stand for righteousness?...no. But realize that satan can take something as simple as a few distractions like flat earth and totally take our minds off what our true mission is and that is spread the gospel message.
I can't prove one way or another whether there is a flat earth or not...so I don't spend too much brain energy trying to make situations fit the theory. I thought the bridge guy was the worse of the the examples.
Yes the videos used scriptures to try and show some sort of proof...but anyone can use any parts of the bible and use it as proof of anything they want to. It's the same with bible codes. I do understand that every place a person is off in their understanding in general, the chances are very great their understanding in taking the bible as a whole is threatened in correct understanding as well.
Yet I personally can not see how the flat earth theory can make me understand the bible differently than I already do. Does it change our thoughts about heaven or hell? Does it change whether Jesus died on the cross for our sins? Simulated situation or not...I'm still in God's hands. He didn't allow me to be put into a puzzle matrix to be used like a rat that has to find his way out. We find our way out by faith.
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This is a reply to # 2,288,333You said....
"God Himself does not want all His info out among people".
Exactly!
Rom 14:22
The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God; happy is he who has no reason to judge himself for what he approves.
The Soul is a very personal thing (like a person's underwear is personal).
The only person on this earth that should be caring about a person's soul is that person themself. No one should let their SOUL be someone elses concern or be TAUGHT/influenced by another...DO NOT SELL YOUR SOUL to the CHURCH OF MAN, only the CHURCH OF GOD will provide REST for your soul).
....but this young generation of worshipers is being overwhelmed with alot of new information and discoveries. It would be helpful to them if they had someone to understand exactly what is important for ETERNAL LIFE (every human being already has the purification OF THE FLESH that was accomplished on the cross by THE WORD OF GOD (THE CHRIST that Moses chose to suffer for).
When God spoke to Moses on the mountain, He told Moses to tell the Jews that "I am who I am" sent him. This name is what God wants to be known as throughout all generation (this is the name of ETERNAL God).
Jesus came to earth in "the FULNESS of TIME" (the end of the age of time....and the beginning of the age of ETERNITY (and in the age to come ETERNAL LIFE").
Jesus came at "the end of the age to put away sin".
So there will be much confusion in this generation about scripture and God, but maybe your understanding will be very helpful to this generation.
Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that gives life
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1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
2 Corinthians 2:15-17
15 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, 16 to one a fragrance from death to death, to the other a fragrance from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ.
2 Corinthians 4:3
And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
2:12-17 A believer's triumphs are all in Christ. To him be the praise and glory of all, while the success of the gospel is a good reason for a Christian's joy and rejoicing. In ancient triumphs, abundance of perfumes and sweet odours were used; so the name and salvation of Jesus, as ointment poured out, was a sweet savour diffused in every place. Unto some, the gospel is a savour of death unto death. They reject it to their ruin. Unto others, the gospel is a savour of life unto life: as it quickened them at first when they were dead in trespasses and sins, so it makes them more lively, and will end in eternal life. Observe the awful impressions this matter made upon the apostle, and should also make upon us. The work is great, and of ourselves we have no strength at all; all our sufficiency is of God. But what we do in religion, unless it is done in sincerity, as in the sight of God, is not of God, does not come from him, and will not reach to him. May we carefully watch ourselves in this matter; and seek the testimony of our consciences, under the teaching of the Holy Spirit, that as of sincerity, so speak we in Christ and of Christ.
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This is a reply to # 2,289,494The Good News.
Paul sums it up here.
Corinthians 15:1-8 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me.
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This is a reply to # 2,289,525Nice. You gave it a good shot. I'll give you the answer tomorrow. I just turned to this page because I was about to logout. Too much turkey and sweet potato pie in the belly.
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This is a reply to # 2,289,525Ooops,forgive me for forgetting all about this thread. I don't come on CZ much. Just every so often.
Ooookay, now I'll give the answer.
The "Good News" is the Good News of the Kingdom of God. The "Kingdom of God" is literally the Holy Spirit. That's why Jesus told the disciples "The Kingdom of God is with you and shall be in you." He was referring to the Holy Spirit. That's why He came down to earth to die on the cross to get US back the thing we lost in the Garden of Eden with Adam's disobedience, the Holy Spirit, our conection with God so we can operate under the power of God 24/7 instead of the Holy Spirit coming "upon" a few special people like Kings, prophets etc for a finite period of time while they prophesy, get super strong (Samson). God wants us to have His Holy Spirit intertwined WITH our spirits so we will become ONE again with Him.
So folks should be preaching the Good News of the Kingdom of God, not Hellfire and Damnation. Type "Kingdom of God" into any online concordance and you will get a billion or so scriptures and you can read them.
Preaching is totally different than teaching. To preach means to declare something. Jesus declared the Kindom of God has arrived because it was already on this earth in Him and would be in "whosoever will" after He died and was raised to life again and put His blood on the altar in heaven.
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This is a reply to # 2,293,822Well after all Jesus had not died yet. He preached the Kingdom of God to the masses, but He shared the plan of salvation with His inner circle of disciples, who then after His death, went out and spread/taught the gospel of God's grace.
The old testament had plenty of scriptures that taught of the grace of God long before Jesus was even born as a baby. So it all ties in together as one.
Do you believe Jesus is in heaven sitting on the right hand of God the Father at this time as well as the Holy Spirit dwelling within a christian's heart?
Merry Christmas. :)
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This is a reply to # 2,288,344Getting back to a step of faith, in natural health or our beliefs in christianity. One of the things I think we have to ask ourselves is, are some of these teachings on curezone part of the things that the fallen angels brought to earth to teach humans? There is some reason why God didn't want them to. I ask this because some of the things didn't sound all that bad to me. Logically we may say that teaching women to rim their eyes with cosmetics may have consequences due to causing men to lust after them more...but other than that...is it a sinful thing? Cutting roots? Is is wrong? Or was it a way to hold back the acceleration of technology that would cause things like the "mark" to come about too soon...or the cutting of roots would lead to genetic engineering of our food?
God being all knowing...did He want to hold back certain info, because He knew satan would add his own piece of disinfo to the mix and use it for evil? For example, I can read curezone and all it's different ways of healing and I think they sound like they will work but I notice that a negative belief system many times is attached to a good portion of it. Christians feel like they are in a minefield, tiptoeing among the truth and the lies. Which puts them off from putting any faith into whatever truth is mixed in it.
In other words, by applying the true part of any healing protocol, are we exposing ourselves to any of these attachments that satan has joined to it?
An example is...I use iridology to check my health. It is something I learned to use from a christian iridologist and I then continued learning on my own. Now some christians believe it's like reading palms and so it's believed that it moves us closer into fortune telling, which the bible tells us to avoid. However, if studied, one finds there is a logical reason why one can look at one's eyes for analyzing health. Just like a doctor can look at your tongue or nails and see if there is a health deficient.
Yet, even though I agree that iridology is harmless, I have trouble believing that muscle testing is just as harmless. I have struggled with this for years...mainly because iridology many times goes hand in hand with muscle testing. I think it's because I don't truly understand it well enough. There is a fear that I'm dabbling with some part of the unknown that God would not approve of. So I hope you can see the point I'm making here about christians being overly careful in making unknown steps into other realms of thought. They truly just want to honor the Lord's wishes.
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In the Garden of Eden, humanity got damaged for all time because Adam chose to have THE KNOWLEDGE that some things are "GOOD" and something are 'NOT GOOD'. Thus humanity became JUDGEMENTAL and PRUDISH.
So when you ask IS IT GOOD?, you are being philisophical and insightful (I think the word is ALTRUISTIC).
Read Ezekiel 16. You'll find that God is willing to tolerate (and even EXPECTS) much debauchery from us lower beings. The 49th verse explains the REAL REASON He punished Sodom and Gommorah (otherwise homosexuality is simply a human idiosyncrasy and irrationality).
The Romans had SCRIPTURES (and worshiped God as a BOOK and buildings, etc.), but God did not accept their 'worship/devotion'.....bureaucratic devotion is not borne out of love).
Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.
God left His 'DNA' inside of each human being (once found,the anointing seed will reveal His REAL truth and counteract all the "LIES" we've been taught for centuries.
1 John 2:27 but the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you; as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no LIE, just as it has taught you, abide in him.
The REAL reason that God did not bless the Romans....
Rom 1:21 for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened.
All verses are from the RSV.
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This is a reply to # 2,288,443Well it's a very good example to show us all that there is a perfectly good reason why we go through all of this in our lifetime. If all the riches and blessing are just handed over to us on a silver platter, we are not thankful, we don't acknowledge Him, and we are prideful. Homosexuality is along for the ride.
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This is a reply to # 2,288,496Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to THE CLOSE OF THE AGE"
The History Channel video called…Book of Enoch: History Channel 12 minutes long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKzqwmr8rS8
Is “Phantom Time” a THEORY or FACT?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis
“TIME” has been recorded in different ways…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Rohl)
….also FOMENKO has his own Chronology (sequence of historical events) and there was a convention of historians in Glasgow also that decided on another chronology.
…so…Could “THE TAO” actually be an IMITATION of THE PRINCIPLES of Jesus and divinity? Many researchers have noticed a striking similarity in the principles (peace, justice, etc.). On youtube, there arew videos that show that the language characters are in GENESIS.
We could be understanding TIME/history all wrong.
There are rumors/legends of Jesus in ancient India and South America (Saint Bartholomew preached in INDIA….where else did He go?).
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This is a reply to # 2,288,496Sometimes God will allow u to astray off the straight path not to far just far enough so that u can experience the temptated path running on self will if that's where u want to be,u see God will allow you to astray so that you can have an understanding so that when you speak u can speak with an understanding why because you been there done that an you understand, Jesus himself shared in our humanity he knows what it feels like to be tempted,he knows what it feels like to be persecuted, how can anyone understand better than the one who's experience it,how can someone who's never done drugs say to the drug addict how easy it is to get off of drugs unless they've been there done that been delivered an set free,an then they will have a testimony a word an a sword ,u see God will hand some people over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that there SOUL may be SAVED
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