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There was a girl on quest for the cures named Staci Marshall who shared her story of triple negative which is the kind of cancer I have. I got a death sentence from 4 doctors as I refused to do standard of care.
Triple negative is very deadly and kills 4 times as many women about 10 or 15% have this type of very aggressive cancer that is notorious for reinventing itself and coming back usually spread.
I wrote to this girl on her Facebook blueberry melt and told her how she inspired me. she had refused all the big three cancer treatments and went on an aggressive alternative health program and changed her diet and life drastically, she has a young daughter about 6 or 7. Her tumor went away and her marker test was normal..she had only been diagnosed about a year when she told her story at the end of the 2nd quest for the cure videos..she seemed to have a very positive attitude.
I told her she was the first person who I heard who was curing triple negative naturally and how it gave me hope along with my story.
the next day some guy sent me an unsolicited message telling me Staci had died and to check the messages to post and see one where her brothers posted he had died from some complication...he did not say much and appeared to have been related as she was in his pictures and she had died about the time all activity stopped on the Facebook. I was shocked she died as I saw her as hope for me and also felt bad as she had a young child and so wanted to live.
this unknown guy then proceeded to tell me without treatment one lives 17 months and this was within when Staci died and he told me I had no hope without traditional treatment. He said his wife died about a year or so ago in 2010 and had stage 3a and that she had chemo, radiation and surgery but to assure her from getting it back she did a "she juiced, followed a fairly strict vegetarian diet and took supplements. She believed but it did not work."
He credits the chemo etc with giving them 4 good years together not the stuff she did nutritionally.
Then he says "as my wife's advocate, I did a lot of research on alt med and nutritional "healing." These therapies are expensive and do not work. Your best and only hope is conventional"
what the hell?
this really pissed me off him claiming that no alternative health modalities work when it is so broad and includes thousands of things and how does he know it does not work ..has he interviewed all the people with cancer like Dr Schulze's patients or the ones on quest for the cure etc to know they do not work..does he know anyone who claimed they cured themselves or are still here who did not go doctors route but naturally.
they are not all expensive and like chemo etc are not...they are far more expensive and also failed a lot (too?) is he badmouthing them?
The whole thing very much upset me as he tried to take away my hope which is so hard to have after doctors drilled it in me I will die without thermic stuff and maybe with.
I am now 2nd guessing myself thinking like am I just fooling myself..should I have done it...and it is just super upsetting to me,
One is to think oh he was just trying to help but was he really or is he blaming the food and juicing etc for not saving his wife instead of blaming the cancer or the traditional treatments is he on a quest to scare everyone into doing it the traditional way which he apparently loves or is he angry she died and trying to take it out on people who try the way his wife did and tell them they too will die without it or is he on a quest.
I am really upset with this and told him so and blocked him..I don't like doing that to people who suffered a recent tragedy but feel I must protect myself from people like this as hope is everything and he tried to take mine..
anyone know or suspect why he did that and how to get myself believing again. She probably did not do enough I suspect or maybe the chemo ruined her immune system or something.
I am also very saddened this girl, Stacie, who seemed to do it all right died,she really thought she was gong to live and I did too,,no I am wondering am I gonna die too as I have been in denial about I could die this whole time and I feel to even think I will die will ruin my small attempts at affirmations and trying to will myself and my mind to live. do affirmations and beliefs really matter.
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Please don't allow his negative attitude to spoil your hope; he evidently did not believe in what she did.
All too often people will categorize remedies, nutritional and standard treatments outside the US as 'alternative'. They do so to discredit anything that is not conventional - chemo, radiation and surgery.
First nutrition is the basic fundamental reason we survive; our bodies thrive and survive on organics. We are not designed to utilize toxins and chemicals to live on. We need organics or we will eventually succumb to disease. So it may not cure us alone when we are diseased but it will stop further contamination and help the body to heal.
Second, remedies are not proven in any scientific or clinical way; they may help but they lack proof and at best they will offer some relief or assistance for the body. There are stories but as we see them they are stories and many we have followed up on are found to do many other things along with the remedies therefore it is hard to determine what helped. We would not rely on remedies alone as we would not rely on just a good organic diet.
Thirdly, supplements are good for the body but too often people believe that if they take a supplement that says it fights cancer or is anticancer then it will cure them; the thing is most studies regarding some herb or supplement are done in vitro not in a human body or in mice or rats, again not a human so we don't know what happens when it goes through the gut and to what strength is left or if it gets to cells. There are a lot of if's. Nice articles and good information but we need to transfer this into treating not just theory that if it works in petri dish will it work in the body. Also, many take many supplements thinking more is better when sometimes the body gets overwhelmed with stuff to digest and assimilate so you are over working the system that you want to use that energy to heal. There has to be a balance of good nutrients and body energy to heal.
Fourth, there are treatments used outside the US that have been working and curing for years; just because the US does not approve it for monetary reasons does not mean you cannot use them or go there to cure yourself. Life is worth something. For what one would spend on a used car a good treatment can be obtained and remission can be achieved. These treatments have a track record, studies and research behind them; this is where to look.
With a positive attitude, good organic living, good supplementation with targeted supplements for cancer stem cells, whole food nutrients, etc your body will be ready to heal when given a good treatment protocol that kills the cancer cells.
If you are looking for good research materials and some helpful assistance contact jesichashope.org and browse the site; you might find the information that will give you remission. Ask some the help is always free.
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Thank you Yes I found out he does not believe in this when I mentioned a number of people who did cure themselves (like Dr Schulze's patients, people interviewed on chrisbeatcancer, people in quest for the cures and the film dying to have known (about Gerson therapy) one still alive given 3 months to live for about 60 years at age 86()..he replied
"I only believe in science, not anecdotal stories. People lie"
So his mindset was made up and he probably felt his wife a fool to add nutritional things etc and blamed that in his resentment and superior attitude he had instead of the chemo etc
yes food etc is not really alternative but what we are supposed to do and eat yet they call it that lumping hundreds of things together as it is not their profitable big three.
I am being in low end of poverty unable to afford organics much of the time as I get
free produce from produce giveaways a large variety but only about 10% is organic. I do the best I can given my very limited funds and a few donations from relatives.
I am going to after mother's day do a lot more detoxing and also thinking of starting coffee enemas to detox the liver.
Yes I agree that natural healing programs do not lend themselves to testing as many of them consist of multoiple things and not a single agent like a chemo drugs. Indiidually though many thing shave been tested but the studies often do not get press due to their conflict with big medical and pharma profits. when one hears anecdotal case of success one after another if people are smart they will start noticing. I hope one day to add my story of success to give others with cancer especially triple negative breast cancer hope as they have no protocol specifically but even if they do I probably would not take that drug, preferring natural as smarter and better personally. Build the body and give it what it needs not poison and tear it down.
Because I am taking a lot of supplements and tinctures, your point made me feel I should at least take digestive enzymes with them to help the body assimilate and digest them better.
What are some of these treatments outside the us to help me know what to research?
Yes I am taking things that target killing cancer stem cells etc.
I did go to your site but I did not see much on what to take to help cure cancer..maybe I am looking in the wrong spot if so, can you direct me specifically what to do to get to this info there.
Thanks for your continued support.
Yes in retrospect his contact helped me. I had one sleepless night but it encouraged me to pray and listen and I feel God gave me some hope and direction. After that, I feel more confident that I may have a chance of living so in the end, it was all good.
I also attended a lecture recently on Gerson with a doctor who uses it and they had live blood cell tests there.
I had had every cell free radical damaged when I had radiation therapy 20 years ago when they had to give me more than normal despite only having 1/2 of the 6 side effects they said I would have most for life. so these supplements mostly antioxidants helped me hopefully to absorb or have less damage than I could have had but still every cell was free radical damaged when I had a live blood cell test a week later. I have not had any since and figured my blood would look horrible.he asked several times if I took blood thinners which I did not unless one of the supplements I take has that.
But he said my blood was unique and only 2% of people had one like that..it is not perfect but very good he said. I am the only one he did not recommend his supplements for and I was surprised that they only found 2 cells in the sample of about 200 that was free radical damaged..they said they had never seen a cell look like that though (maybe due to all that radiation) but only 1% of the cells (mostly red blood cells) in that sample had free radical damage compared to 100% a week after radiation so I concluded something I had done in the pat 20 years or currently must be helping o making a difference and that really gave me some hope too.Advertisement
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While most of the world believes money gives power and it is in their forefront of focus; I chose to think with or without it love still prevails and does run the world. With that said - I am going to give you some ideas that you can use that hopefully will allow you to achieve your goal.
Remember only strength and persistence gets you to the summit.
Try using a baking soda bath 2 cups to a tub of hot water - soak for 40 minutes - not too hot though, just comfortable. This is a great detoxer.
If you go to the site - look into the Organic Living section, the cancer treatments are under the cancer treatment page. http://www.jesichashope.org then hit the appropriate buttons.
If you also send me an email I can give you some good options we have found are working or I will ask a colleague to give you some ideas. director@jesichashope.org - we focus on the person and our mission is only to help you, there is no money in free.
I do feel for the poor fellow that is stuck on what he thinks is Science when in fact there are more scientific papers that are showing non toxic methods used in other parts of the world are working far better. If the corporations can keep people in the dark long enough to extract their money and long enough to brainwash them, profits will continue. Corporations have no soul, the do not care if one or hundred die, if their profits go up they are happy and if they go down they want to know why and how to remedy it. Many small companies with a heart are driven out, reputations ruined all because a corporation is remedying a profit loss that small company imposed on them.
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Thank you so much. Jessica's hope. Yes I have been seeing through them for some time and rarely use their drugs etc choosing to go naturally and have had a lot o success using natural healing both on myself and others.
Due to my 37 year study of alternative health, herbs and nutrition and long history of doing what I think is best, it helped me to be able to withstand them telling me over and over i would die without their toxic treatments.
I did feel a lumpectomy was ok as I wanted to get the big tumor out to buy me more time to work on curing myself and I did some pretests to be sure as best I could be that it had not spread through rest o breast or lymph nodes.
I tuned down lymph node removal and biopsy to prevent risk of lymphedema and impairing my immune system further. One doctor agreed with me it was not really needed since I was not doing chemo as it is only to stage my cancer.
They did find it in a blood vessel inside the tumor so I am not sure if it spread. I ave refused to get marker test to this point. I did start on modified citrus pectin a week after surgery ass soon as I found out it can prevent the metastasis of cancer by making the cells slippery so they have a hard time sticking together in tumors and in distant spots,. It also prevents angiogenesis, promotes cell apoptosis (death) and removed heavy metal and has been shown in studies to create less metastasis compared to a control group plus a bunch of other things.
I feel I made a good decision not doing the chemo etc but once in a while someone says something and I get scared I made the wrong decision but I knew I could never, would never get chemo once I knew the often permanent and serious side effects particularly to the brain and the organs one most needs (lungs as cancer lives in low oxygen area) an liver (as one must detox). I am so glad I did not get chemo as I heard it can make the cancer more aggressive and it is already aggressive,..right now I feel the same as always and not sick though I do have a lot of pain form other things.
I really appreciate your last sentence as it gives me hope and I am so starved for understanding and hope as have found noone in my personal life or online except this site for any understanding of why I chose what I did and some support for that choice..it really meant so much to me when you said I will do well and waking up gives e an advantage.
I do feel fortunate that I have studied for so long and already knew many things to do to help me stop cancer and cure which left room for researching the many things I did not know and that i found the excellent quest for the cure videos.
I was lucky a few relatives helped me buy some things..just today a relative bought me an enema bucket that costs $60 so I could do coffee enemas saving me that money to use for something else and that I have found good sources of a lot of produce and some things are going my way..I was able to get exactly the treatment I wanted even though doctors said noone would do that.
I also have gotten so much info and so many sending me ideas of what might help so I am blessed even though I get down sometimes
this site and the people are it are so wonderful.
I will try the baking soda baths..I have some on hand as am taking a little orally each day and it is very cheap. would it hurt to add other things like hydrogen peroxide, seaweed, organic bath slats and/or Epsom salt with it or should it only be used alone?
Yes I think money is overrated but right now in need of it but I always felt and lived my life helping others and enjoying my children and life and nature
I appreciate you orienting me to your site where to find those things which I did not see before. thanks,
it is completely unconscionable what these corporations do with not a thought. I often wonder what happened to these people?
yes I think that guy must have grudgingly gone on along with what his wife wanted to do (eat better etc) and her death must have left him with someone to blame and he took his experiences and then disbelieved all the many who healed themselves classifying them all as liars to not go through cognitive dissonance. I told him many studies are done on natural treatments but do not get widely seen and also some things are so diversified and use so many things, they are hard to study but you know you can't often reach people like that.
Dr Lorraine Day who cured herself of a serious cancer with alternate health and faith told us in her film cancer doesn't scare me anymore why doctors never see these studies and how the big pharma uses their big buck advertising to shape what the magazine publishes or does not by withdrawing advertising money and closing magazines that lose that revenue and that precedent keeps the other medical journals in check but with the internet things are and will change..
Doctors will se more and more people like me who tell their doctors they think the treatments are too dangerous and they will be doing aggressive alternative health treatments and if Drs do not change they will be seeing drops in patients I feel though that may be a little down the road but I did know generally in my life I tend to do things a long time before others and almost always it later becomes more widespread or trendy or popular so thought the doctors now se me as different and foolish, I am confident one day they will be encountering more and more people like me and then after that a lot more I predict.
Speaking of corporations, we need to end corporate person hood.
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Yes I got your email and I hope that I can help you on your journey.
Cure is a word not many in mainstream want to use, I am often surprised to still see it in the Webster Dictionary.
People are afraid to stray from mainstream because since we were little we were told to trust the doctors and they were there to make us well. We got used to having a tummy ache and having a doctor give us a pill and it went away. We are an instant gratification society and want instant relief. We have lost the ability to know that healing is the body's job and it takes time.
We were designed to heal without drugs, we are not deficient in drugs nor do we thrive on modified organisms - GMO's we thrive and survive on organics - we heal by means of plants and minerals placed on the earth for that purpose. Do not fear the threats of doctors, they know not that they do not know the right answers, they live in darkness that the pharmaceuticals have put them in.
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This is a reply to # 2,249,884I will observe here that there ARE highly effective natural and alternative cancer protocols out there which do not require a clinic, a physician or mainstream treatments or drugs.
For example, the Cellect Budwig protocol is highly, highly effective. As is the one we suggest at The Best Years in Life. But it can be a murky and confusing world when one searches for what really works versus what is hyped to work.
To beat cancer naturally, we believe that a person must cleanse their body and their environment of toxins (which, together with poorly nourished, cleansed and hydrated cells, are by far the main root cause of cancer) and:
*Includes plenty of juicing (a la Gerson)
*utilizes multiple anti-cancer and immune boosting herbs and other supplements
*eliminates bad diet and bad habits
*employs an anti-cancer diet which includes potent cancer fighting and immune boosting foods and avoids foods which may contribute to cancer
*addresses stress management and lifestyle advice
*includes regular exercise
*includes direct and indirect sunshine
*and more.
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Yes there are many things out there in the world that can and does help people with trying to overcome cancer.
As for some of what you discuss - I say No comment in order to keep myself from publicly addressing the situation. Suffice to say - if I see people dying while using treatments I begin to raise my red flag. I want to see improvements but more importantly I want to see people go into full enduring remission - they want to and deserve to live a life without cancer. The body has the ability to reverse cancer - it can do it; so why do we insist on just treating it? Let's help people utilize the best things out there and make more survivors.
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This is a reply to # 2,249,769Don't let people like that destroy your mellow.
There are alternative treatments that work to kill cancers. The approach that I am most familiar with is Iodine supplementation. Our immune system REQUIRES Iodine to kill cancer cells via apoptosis.
Our neighbor was sent to home hospice to die from uterus cancer and was told she had less than 3 months to live. After taking Iodine with required co-supplements for 9 months, her cancer was gone. She is still alive today more than 2 years later. See our Testimonials, chapter cancer & prostate for more success stories.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KQ8tCLrOoQQJ8h_gSRM1aZ1Ya-YqaN4B3i8NMXOm8TY/edit#
The author of the book, "What you don't know about Iodine can wreck your life," goes into great detail on how & why iodine killed her stage 3 breast cancer, she is still cancer free after 4 years.
I have also created my research report on how & why iodine (with required co-supplements) kills cancer cells. See Cancer here:
https://sites.google.com/site/iodinereferenes/cancers
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CU1cOKdIxzuu-Mgb9iKV4QL0sKxOdt1pYE2mWms2FGI/edit
Iodine doctors such as Dr. Brownstein have been using iodine to successfully treat cancer for years. Google Browstein Cancer for more details.
The owner of the Yahoo Iodine Group was cured of her thyroid cancer by Dr. Brownstein, and tells her story: Still alive today.
http://www.naturalthyroidchoices.com/
The iodine doctors recommend 300mg of iodine daily with co-supplements. Details here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IzFKo-r2-Nn8_z0KUrOhHdlanzSuhkuV3QO03XF6YTY/edit#
You can join Author Lynne Farrow's Breast Cancer Choices Group here:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/breastcancerthinktank/info
See her website here:
http://breastcancerchoices.org/strategies.html
Bottom line, there is an iodine deficiency epidemic especially among women. We require iodine at 25 to 50 mg a day to stay healthy.
So cheer up, there is a great deal of hope from iodine supplementation. Since iodine is required for good health anyway, you can also pursue other options.
Best to you,
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Grizz you are amazing and so kind doing God's work.
I thank you for all the help and support you have given me and info on iodine since my diagnosis last year.
As you may recall I had to quit my iodine protocol where I was up to 300 mg due to hair loss. I did not know if the hair loss was an effect of bromide detox or something else..there were 3 other things It could have been.
Though my hair has not thickened back (I lost about 75% of my hair thickness and length (due to hair breaking off), I have noticed some of the strength of my hair has returned.
You will be happy to know I have restarted taking the iodine and protocol about 2 maybe 3 weeks ago. I am going to go slower this time. I started at 2 drops then 4 today I will start 6 drops and gradually increase it but at a slower rate than last time.
I got scared lst time when doctor did an iodine test to get a baseline and it said my iodine was like 1600 times too much Now she says she gave me the wrong test and will not retest it. I missed out on the free test by Lynn due to missing my deadline so I guess I will just do without it.
I did have a question though. I am not sure if you recall me asking it before when I was on it..that time I took sideways drops and maybe was supposed to take vertical drops not horizontal when taking liquid lugols.
This time I am not sure so began it with vertical..I think one yields more iodine per drop and this makes it so you are taking either not enough or too much.
oh I went to look how much iodine mg is in each drop and found this reference to vertical drops..is it right
http://www.lugols.com/calculating.html
I had to return the iodine crisis back to the library as someone else wanted it I did xerox the protocol and mg dose chart but misplaced it for now so cant look it up.
How many mg per drops (vertical) is in one drop of the 5% solution.
So if I am currently taking 6 vertical drops, is that 37.50 mg?
Or is horizontal drops the measurement.
Hopefully I will be able to do it this time at the higher cancer dose which I think you said is at least 300 mg right soon without hair loss as I do believe very much in this treatment and felt it was most promising when I first read Lynn Farrow's book.
thanks for all you do and for your help with me..it is appreciated Grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,249,966Knowledge Seeker,
We use vertical drops of Lugols. The 5% Lugols = 6.25 mg per drop, and the 2% Lugols = 2.5 mg per drop. Horizontal drops deliver almost 2 x more mg per drop.
http://jeffreydachmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/The-Guide-to-Supplementing-with-Iodine-Stephanie-Burst-ND.pdf
Cancer – Cancer is a result of mutated cells. Iodine is absolutely critical for
something called P53 gene which is known as the “keeper of the genetic code”.
Without Iodine and selenium it will not function to eliminate abnormal cells from
the body such as cancer. Cancer patients have taken anywhere from 50 – 300 mgs / day successfully. Here is a good article on how P53 works with the mdm2
in cancer
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071015215101.htm
For information on the P53 and Iodine see the Minerals for the Genetic Code book.
21. Information about Breast Cancer & Iodine
The best resource for Breast Cancer is http://www.breastcancerchoices.org
which is a nonprofit organization run by Lynne Farrow who is a Breast Cancer survivor. They are dedicated to the grass roots research into iodine’s effectiveness as treatment.
Another good resource is a book by Dr. David Derry called Breast Cancer and Iodine.
https://sites.google.com/site/iodinereferenes/books/breast-cancer-iodine
Best to you,
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This is a reply to # 2,250,016Thank you for the video I watched it and appreciate you posting it. If you or anyone would like to pray for me, my name is Jane
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This is a reply to # 2,250,021Praying for you Jane in the name of Christ to fully recover. Especially since you have been so selfless and helped so many here.
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Thank you so much..this caring post made me tear up..to have someone on their own pray for me and say what you did is so nice.
I have been told I am kind by hundreds I spoke with one on one and estimate I have helped about 10,000 people one on one over the last 10 years or so. It is gratifying to be appreciated and I want to continue to help others with a strong testimony of healing and learn to better take are of myself as well.
I do care for others and have a lot of empathy for hurting people. I have nearly no family support so it is hard and it hurts.
Lately I have gotten out of the habit of my program and fallen behind of everything and would appreciate prayer in addition to complete recovery that I can get more organized and get things done and go back to what I was doing and more. I am still doing a few things and diet but need to get back in habit of what I was doing.
My brother--my only helper-- almost died three weeks ago and I got sidetracked and quit things and it is hard to get back on track fully.
I also was getting some financial help (a little) from sister, Julie, as I have hard time affording things but I think she got mad and stopped sending if you might pray she will start sending it again and also a cousin who said she would send a little and did not, I would also appreciate that as it is had to buy what I need on my small income.
I really appreciate your prayers on my behalf that this aggressive cancer will not come back as they said. I feel I have more to do and learn in my life. Thank you dear friend :)
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This is a reply to # 2,263,571Right before I read your message to me, I had spent hours reading how some people have really strongly been helped by host defense blend of 17 mushrooms. I've been reading Amazon reviews and some of them were cancer patients.
I'm not affiliated. I'm just looking for something to help me not be bed bound anymore and was looking at their reishi mushrooms and ended up looking at the other product as well.
I was also reading Dr. Mercola's article on medicinal mushrooms and some people mentioned the same product.http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/31/organic-mushrooms-for-immune-support.aspx
I'm sorry but I forgot, do you have an aggressive breast cancer? If so, I was reading a book called Iodine Crisis by Lynne Farrow and it said you can take progesterone cream and mix it with Lugols Iodine drops, about 25mgs worth, and mix it well and rub it on the breasts to help overcome it.
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineref.html
I'd really look into Iodine if you aren't already.
I will pray for what you asked me to. I will also have my son pray for you, he has stronger faith than I do.
Be well kind lady!
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I'm not 100 percent sure it's 25 mgs. I need to find that book and look it back up for you. I just want to add that I have been using 25 mgs mixed with progesterone cream, and although I haven't been diagnosed with cancer I have used it on my breasts and it really helped with the lumps.
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