John 6:28-29 
vektek
9 y
519
More28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”- Re: John 6:28-29 trapper/kcmo
9 y
640
This is a reply to # 2,242,878you dont believe him if you dont do what he says.
its called lip service.
Isaiah 29:13
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Matthew 15:8
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mark 7:6
He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
there ya go. call god a liar again. i dare ya.
- Re: John 6:28-29 vektek
9 y
701
This is a reply to # 2,242,878If you truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, everything else is taken care of. It is through faith that we are sealed to Him. And then we live and move and have our being in Him.
Ephesians 1:
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
11In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the guaranteed of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Thanksgiving and Prayer
15For this reason, because I have heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love toward all the saints, 16I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, 17that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 18having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might 20that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, 23which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.Advertisement
Natural Weight Loss
Remove toxins from the body, restore digestive function, lose weight and keep it off.
- Re: John 6:28-29 trapper/kcmo
9 y
673
This is a reply to # 2,242,897thats not faith. thats wishful thinking.
faith is not blind. it KNOWS what its doing because it, you, me, whoever has faith, has experience. one doesnt know anything without experience.
faith isnt something you have, it is something you are. or arent, as the case may be.
"If you truly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, everything else is taken care of. It is through faith that we are sealed to Him. And then we live and move and have our being in Him."
this statement is not one of faith. its gobbledegoop if you cant define faith or know who jesus is and from where im sittin it looks like you dont.
love is deliberate. how can this religion you describe be of god? god is love and he speaks plainly. his will shall be done. he has worked out every detail. how does that figure into this poke and hope doctrine?
its narcissistic, i tell you. like gandhi said, christians are nothing like their jesus. they are full of lusts of the flesh and self worship.
i am speaking plain to you folks here. its no sweat off my nose if you ignore me. ive said something to you all so im off the hook.-
Re: John 6:28-29 vektek
9 y
709
This is a reply to # 2,243,055"his will shall be done. he has worked out every detail."
On that I will agree!
I love the gospel Trapper! I can't help it if that bothers you.
I Corinthians 1:18
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
"i am speaking plain to you folks here. its no sweat off my nose if you ignore me."
Yep, same here!
I belong to the Lord Trapper. Bring all the accusations you want, but all the accusations in the universe won't change the fact that I am His. You are not God and you are not the one that justifies.
Romans 3:
21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Advertisement
Natural Weight Loss
Remove toxins from the body, restore digestive function, lose weight and keep it off.
- Re: John 6:28-29 saywhatagain
9 y
702
This is a reply to # 2,243,086The question for me is what does it mean to truly believe in Christ? What does it mean to have faith in Christ? What does it mean to receive the grace of the blood sacrifice of Christ?
I don't mean to say that these concepts are complicated, they are not, they are extremely simple, but I still think that all of them are extremely difficult for man to comprehend. Why can't man comprehend these concepts? Because man's ways are not God's ways. Man always wants to understand things from the perspective of man, not of God. So when it says in the Bible to believe in Christ, man will take that concept and put it into practice the way that man interprets it. To believe in Christ is the easiest thing in the world but for man there are many obstacles, even for those who declare belief in Christ.
Most Christians never even ponder the idea that their version of believing in Christ could actually be completely wrong and I think this is a huge problem. If we take it for granted that we already understand the Gospel from our flesh perspective, how are we ever going to truly understand the Gospel? One who does not have any need of seeking, can never find.
So you are right Vektek, all we need to do is believe in Christ, have faith in Him and receive His Grace, but even this most fundamental concept of Christianity, most Christians don't understand and I will put myself into that boat as well. Just because I declare that I believe in Christ, does not mean I believe in Christ. Just because I declare that I have faith in Christ, does not give me actual faith in Christ.
What I will say of the majority of Christians is that they place their hope in Christ and that is a great thing. But placing your hope in Christ and having faith in Christ are two very different concepts. I place my hope in Christ and I believe that someday Christ will transform that hope into faith. But for those that have hope in Christ and in their hearts and do not have desire for that hope to be transformed into faith, that is just a shame because there is so much more that Christ could do with those people if they had a little more room in their hearts for Him. Most Christians think that they are a finished work, when they are actually just sitting at the starting line and Christ is waiting for them to start the race.
For me, I am not content with just hope in Christ or just having a little bit of Christ, I want all of Christ, I want to have faith in Christ and to me that means that Christ will reign in every second, every moment of my life. And I do think that is what Christ wants for me also and I believe that Christ has the power to do so. To me, if feels like some Christians will say this way of thinking is blasphemous because we want more of God. How is it blasphemous to want more of God to want all of God and only God in our lives? That is the opposite of blasphemy. I want more of Christ and less of me.- 2 Peter 3 refreshed
9 y
590
This is a reply to # 2,243,0922 Peter 3
3 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.
3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.
11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.
14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.Advertisement
Natural Weight Loss
Remove toxins from the body, restore digestive function, lose weight and keep it off.
- Exactly saywhatagain 9 y 607
- Re: 2 Peter 3 trapper/kcmo
9 y
531
This is a reply to # 2,243,102not the best translation but still, good enough to leave you without excuse.
- Re: John 6:28-29 trapper/kcmo
9 y
598
This is a reply to # 2,243,092"
I don't mean to say that these concepts are complicated, they are not, they are extremely simple, but I still think that all of them are extremely difficult for man to comprehend. Why can't man comprehend these concepts? "
because they have been hidden since the foundation of the earth.
- 2 Peter 3 refreshed
9 y
590
-
Re: John 6:28-29 trapper/kcmo
9 y
719
This is a reply to # 2,243,086half a gospel is a whole disaster.
"I Corinthians 1:18
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."
youre not supposed to TRY and be a fool in order to fit in.
jesus was not crucified on a cross. see w e vine. it is an upright stake or pale. the cross is a pagan symbol. three crosses symbolize 666.
im not here because i am bothered by any of you. i really dont have time for this. but it is the work i am to do, so i do it.
got a problem? tell the boss.
- Re: John 6:28-29 saywhatagain
9 y
702
-
- Re: John 6:28-29 trapper/kcmo
9 y
673
- Re: John 6:28-29 trapper/kcmo
9 y
640
Share:
Translate This Page: