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I am reading the instructions for tincture making in Dr. Schultze's newsletter. All steps are listed in the cayenne pepper tincture then referred back to in all the other tincture recipes. My questions are: 1) It appears that the cayenne pepper tincture is more specialized than some of the others. Do I just dump 100 proof alcohol on all the herbs (dry or fresh) in the recipes that refer back to the cayenne tincture procedure,or do I have to separate them out like the cayenne recipe and 2) how do I know the volume of my "parts" is enough to make an effective tincture? Thanks!
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This is a reply to # 2,175,260If new to making tinctures it is difficult to know the first few time but eventually you know from experience.
There are no hard rules but there are well known methods that are successful when making , for instance, cayenne tincture. One such method involves the use of a blender as this will greatly help getting herb and alcohol in contact with each other, especially if your batch will include fresh herb compared to dry. ** use of fresh herb, which contains natural liquid "water content" requires a bit more 90proof to offset**
One pint is towards the small size for a batch BUT big enough to be worthwhile. If you have a blender, use it, if not do not worry, you can still produce effective tincture.
As to parts, you generally know that you have not added enough parts of Herb when the texture of the combined herb & alcohol is watery. At the other extreme the consistency will be like a thick paste when the ratio is too much Herb compared to the amount of liquid/alcohol. Generally, the consistency is considered right on when the mixture looks or feels like applesauce - not to watery and not too thick. If you have blender and enough dry cayenne, fill the pint jar about half full ... just a bit under half , with the dried pepper or fresh, then dump this nearly half full jar into a blender that already has about half pint of 90 proof or there abouts of plain vodka. Run or pulse blender on high for 10 to 20 seconds and then stop to get an idea of the consistency, you are striving for something close to applesauce. Lets say after you added the ingredient parts as described above and blended for a while and you end up with almost applesauce but perhaps a but on the watery side. No problem, just pour the contents into your pint jar and add a bit more herb. If it was a bit on the dry side, no problem, just add a bit more 90 proof. The trick is to be close to applesauce consistency by the time the pint jar is nearly full. Leave a bit of room on top of jar so that you can add a bit more 90 proof after a day or two. **After a day or two the herb will have swollen a bit, some herbs swell more than others, this swelling may require a bit more alcohol be added after a day or two *** So, day one the pint jar is nearly filled to top with combined herb and alcohol, put lid on tight, shake well, put in cool dark spot. When you come back in day or two and shake some more you can top off the jar with more 90 proof, if for no other reason this top off reduces oxygen in the jar. When erring on parts, it is usually better to have a bit too much herb rather than a bit too little. As long as you do not make it so thick that there s not enough liquid for the mixture to slosh around when you shake the jar, do not worry about wasting herb, you 'll simply end up with strong tincture.
Good luck, and no, there is nothing special or complicated with cayenne compared to other tinctures; it is just peppers dry and or fresh, 90 proof and some blending or shaking and then sitting on a shelf in a full jar for at least two weeks. I have gallons of cayenne in various stages in the pantry, a coupe batches have been steeping for years.
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This is a reply to # 2,175,260please see both posts here
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Be sure you use parts and not volume if it is 2 parts comfey and 3 parts hopes for example use 2 cups of comfrey and 3 cups of hops and not 2 oz of comfrey and 3 oz of hops.
If the herbs are very resinous use 00 proof if you can gt it but for most if you cannot get 100 proof 80 proof vodka form grains is fine --the cheapest is also fine.
I save up to 90% of the cost over buying and they can last up to 10 year sand more according to Schulze while died herbs about a year so if you want to make a lot like buy lbs instead of oz of herbs, you know it will last and be good years later.
Although it can still work with conventional herbs for best results use only organic or wildcrafted herbs as these contain 7 to 10 times more of the phytochemicals that prevent and cure disease
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This is a reply to # 2,187,469I mix mine in the vitamix
but you just add one part of this and two parts of this till the bowl is full and then add the vodka.
Put it in the jar and let it sit.I use 50% herbs and 505 vodka or for stronger ones 75% herbs and 25% vodka also look at the jar and see is there 25 to 505 liquid floating on top of the herbs which settle to the bottom..if not add more herbs or vodka to get that mix..if not enough herbs then add more to get it either25 or 50% whichever you are doing and if it is all herbs and they are dry and not enough vodka liquid is on top (that is 25 to 505) then add more vodka..the vodka often soaks up a lot of herbs and tens to cost more than the herbs.
seethe link I provided for dosing info and how to label and store.
As far as parts follow the recipe..you can make as much or little as you want..for measuring device can be tsp, tbs, tea cup, cup, bowl or pan so in the recipe I gave above for example use 2 tsp of comfrey and 3 tsp of hops in a bowl or jar and mix then add the proper amount of vodka to get the settled mix to be the right proportion you want like 25% vodka and 75% herbs for a stronger one or 50-50 if that is what you want.
If using a pan then it would be 2 pans or comfrey and three pans of hpops and then mix and add the right mix of menstrum (vodka, apple cider etc) and then keep in dark place shaking often for at least 2 weeks I often just leave mine soaking taking some to add to tincture bottle as needed to strengthen it.
follow the steps at the link I gave adding in the things I added in the 2nd post and here.
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This is a reply to # 2,187,469Your feedback has been very helpful! I have horsetail brewing in the back of a cabinet as we speak!
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This is a reply to # 2,189,797Great--glad to hear it, dragonflychange
I see I made several errors or typing errors in my previous posts in this thread and cannot edit them so I am reposting them correctly with some added info below
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Be sure you use parts and not volume if it is 2 parts comfrey and 3 parts hops, for example, use 2 cups of comfrey and 3 cups of hops and not 2 oz of comfrey and 3 oz of hops. If using smaller measure like a teaspoon, then it would be 2 tsp of comfrey and 3 tsp of hops not 2 oz of comfrey and 3 oz of hops.
Parts is a measurement like cup, bowl, tbs etc-- when doing by volume and not parts then you can use oz but this is not recommended at all. Parts is recommended and as the number of parts of a particular herb increase (like 16 parts of cedar berries, 2 parts of lobelia and 1 part each of lavender and fennel) you would us a lot more of the herb in the formula with cedar berries you are using 16 times more cedar berries than either fennel or lavender and 8 times as much cedar berries than lobelia.
If the herbs are very resinous like pine, use 100 proof vodka if you can get it but for most if you cannot get 100 proof vodka, then 80 proof vodka made from grains is fine --the cheapest is also fine. I buy the large bottle which are about starting here in Ohio at $13.65 a bottle.
I save up to 90% of the cost of the tinctures over buying then ready made and they can last up to 50 to a 100 years and more according to Schulze while dried herbs only last about a year so if you want to make a lot like buy lbs instead of oz of herbs, you know it will last and be good years later. I find generally the alcohol is the biggest expense as the herbs just suck it up.
If one makes individual herbs instead of a formula, then they can then add them together in the right number of parts to make a new formula. For instance, one can make the 2 parts of comfrey and 3 parts of hops mixed together in a container then adding the vodka till they get the right proportion (like 50 % herbs and 50% vodka when the herbs settle tot he bottom) or they can make a big tincture of hops and a big tincture of comfrey and then mix 2 parts of comfrey already made and 3 parts of hops all ready made into a container and mix like putting 2 cincture bottle of comfrey and 3 tincture bottle of hops into a big jar which would then still leave them some plain hops tincture and plain comfrey tincture in the original bottle that could be used to make another different tincture like 1 part hops and 1 part lavender or 2 part comfrey and two parts horsetail for instance for a mix and match thing.
Although it can still work with conventional herbs for best results use only organic or wildcrafted herbs as these contain 7 to 10 times more of the phytochemicals that prevent and cure disease
2nd post redoneI mix mine in the vitamix
but you just add one part of this and two parts of this till the bowl is full and then add the vodka.
Put it in the jar and let it sit.I use 50% herbs and 50% vodka or for stronger ones 75% herbs and 25% vodka also look at the jar and see is there 25 to 50% liquid floating on top of the herbs which settle to the bottom..if not add more herbs or vodka to get that mix..if not enough herbs then add more to get it either 25 or 50% whichever you are doing and if it is all herbs and they are dry and not enough vodka liquid is on top (that is 25 to 50%) then add more vodka..the vodka often soaks up a lot of herbs and tens to cost more than the herbs.
See the link I provided for dosing info and how to label and store.
As far as parts follow the recipe..you can make as much or little as you want..for measuring device can be tsp, tbs, tea cup, cup, bowl or pan so in the recipe I gave above for example use 2 tsp of comfrey and 3 tsp of hops in a bowl or jar and mix then add the proper amount of vodka to get the settled mix to be the right proportion you want like 25% vodka and 75% herbs for a stronger one or 50-50 if that is what you want.
If using a pan then it would be 2 pans or comfrey and three pans of hops and then mix and add the right mix of menstrum (vodka, apple cider etc) and then keep in dark place shaking often for at least 2 weeks I often just leave mine soaking taking some to add to tincture bottle as needed to strengthen it.
follow the steps at the link I gave adding in the things I added in the 2nd post and here.
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