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Matt Stone was nice enough to put together this post about leaky gut. Enjoy :)
http://180degreehealth.com/2013/10/leaky-gut-syndrome#comment-90258
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,112,131He also includes "Lyme Disease, candida overgrowth, MTHFR deficiency, SIBO, 36 different autoimmune diseases, adrenal fatigue, gluten sensitivity, and Histamine allergy" to fit that flowchart.
Im not sure how serious he is, but if he really believes this than what is the cause of our issues? Is it really just in our heads as western medicine wants us to believe?- Re: Think you've got a leaky gut? Faith110
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This is a reply to # 2,112,157Beyond, the whole thing is a joke. He created the post because all of these illnesses have become the trendy diagnosis in the alternative medicine world.
and yes, after 2 years of dealing with this crap I've come to realize that the root of our problems are the physical manifestations of a broken mind.- Re: Think you've got a leaky gut? feo66
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This is a reply to # 2,112,163There may be some people that the root of their problem is primarily psychological. However, stress results damaged organs, regardless of the source.
Dr Hans Selye, who discovered the effects of stress, was able to produce the same pattern, regardless of the stressor.
Extreme cold, extreme heat, excessive physical exercise, injection with toxins.
http://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/data/Journals/NP/3855/230.pdf
The stages of the General Adaptation Syndrome are the same as James Wilson describes in his book (it is unfortunate the he renamed the condition…. It would have had a better chance of being accepted if he just called it by the name still used in medical texts)
I’m sure a few of the rats might have had psychological problems :) But it is not required.
Didn’t matter what stress he exposed them to, the pattern was the same.
Alarm → Resistance → Exhaustion
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This is a reply to # 2,112,170I think animals go through pyscological trauma when they are being 'tested' on Feo therefore they could of easily created their own mental stress. Im sure any human would being tested on by cruel scientists and doctors.
The vague report you mentioned also states massive physicological attacks on the body as a route cause, not simple normal things like going for a jog every day.
Pyschological trauma is the route of many illnesses, whether you dont think if it manifests itself as mental or physical hence why those billions of other people who heavily train on a daily basis, eat crap food etc and dont get sick, because lets face it, if what you are saying is true, then all the ahtletes, porn stars, drug addicts, junk food eaters etc would all have AF, and I know many of people in each of those catagorys and none have anything wrong with them.
The thing with mental trauma, is that it stays with you, always, it never goes away. Recovering from a run or a bike ride, takes a few days rest of sleep, the bodys on inate way of healing itself...but yes, if we do take our bodys to exhaustion through to much, and we do not have the mental capacity to back up getting better, or havie mental things constantly churning over we drift further into the 'whats wrong with me', and living with a chronic illness is possibly one of the most stressful things ever, and then there is coping with life with a Chronic illness as well...a massive bundle of mental stress, no wonder the bodies gets worn out!
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This is a reply to # 2,112,327Oh... I'm not saying psychological sources of stress can't be a cause.
I am simply responding to the implication that this might "all be in our head".
“The vague report you mentioned also states massive physicological attacks on the body as a route cause, not simple normal things like going for a jog every day”
The level of stress probably just dictates how long it takes to go through the stages and crash. He stressed the rats enough that they went through the stages in a few days.
I took 35 years to get to the crash point! So it seems logical that the amount of time it takes is inversely proportional the the intensity of stress.
Not sure what is “vague” about the report. It is a article published in the Journal of Neurophyschiary specifically discussing the stress research of Hans Selye. The foundation of James Wilsons book, and also the work of Dr Eck.
Possibly the difference between us and people who seem to be able to get away with stress for years is from epigenetics and pre-natal cortisol exposure.
Been meaning to post on that subject for a while.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2112481#i
So yes … people can run marathons and not have problems. But their kids may not be so lucky. Because endurance atheletes have elevated costisol levels.
Elevated hair cortisol concentrations in endurance athletes
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21944954
However, not all atheletes make it through their career without ill affects from all the training.
Should tennis be worried about mono?
http://www.ktxs.com/sports/Should-tennis-be-worried-about-mono/-/14769664/202...
Venus Williams has had an “auto-immune” disorder for the last several years. Several other top players have had to retire because their mono has morphed into autoimmune disorders.
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This is a reply to # 2,112,163Hey Faith110, gave me a good laugh, thanks for posting. At first I thought he was serious, just kind of skimmed through it and then read the responses and realized it was a joke. Then I went back and read the whole flow chart and I realized the part about farting since 1992 was a give-a-way. But it is so annoying running up against alternative doctors that are either just absolute m*o*o*ns or people trying to take advantage of sick people and make a buck off of them, for the most part the are probably a combination of both. These people destroy the credibility of real natural healers that could actually be doing the world a lot of good.
As far as the root of our problems being the physical manifestation of a broken mind, I agree with that to a certain extent, but the physical food that we put into our body can also impact the mind, it goes both ways. An unhealthy mind will lead to a diseased body, yes, but an unhealthy body will also lead to a diseased mind, they are both vitally important and neither one can be ignored.- Re: Think you've got a leaky gut? 155216
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This is a reply to # 2,112,322True that...however the world is array with unhealthy bodies, probably ninety percent of the world, and they arent all sick...
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This is a reply to # 2,112,322Saywhatagain- I'm glad someone besides Wiredgeneration and I got a chuckle out of this. People on this forum seriously need to lighten up sometimes. Laughter really is fantastic medicine!
And it is true, sadly. There are so many grubbers in the alternative medicine field that they've managed to tarnish the reputation of the industry, and if there are any true "healers" they just get swept up in the current of sh*t.
I do agree that food, chemicals, and all that mess will contribute to disease, but in my case I believe that prolonged intense chronic emotional stress was what weakened me in the first place. Then in my weakened state I became vulnerable to all the physical causes. Indeed both need to be addressed in order to see any progress- Re: Think you've got a leaky gut? saywhatagain
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This is a reply to # 2,112,480Yes, I totally agree, good to see there are quite a few people on the right track.
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