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I am almost ready to have some money to start with NB and have a second hair anyl ( first one done 2 years ago and did not follow though)
May I please ask, I have several NB prct. in mind, via a few people from this and adrenal forums.
Want to sellect one that is very kind and very familiar with severe adrenal exhaustion and someone who will listen well and not push supplements or protocal aggressively, since my body is so weak and can't handle much.
Some I've heard of are: Therea Vernon, Susan Cachay and Maureen Mintzlaff.
PS. Price a major concern too when working with a Practiconer.
Thankyou.
Paulette
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,060,631ring5100:
Susan Cachay "takes care" of me. I think she fits that description of yours for a sound and caring practitioner.
She's in Victoria, B.C., Canada.
Has a very "soft", gentle personality; is surprisingly caring and humane.
And I'll give you some details in a PM I'd rather not disclose publicly, check your inbox. - Re: best NB practicioners Onwards
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,060,631Paulette- You might consider interviewing Rick Malter who is from Trace Elements. TE takes a very different approach to treating anyone who is in the 4 low pattern.
I plan on sending our retests there in a couple of months. My son and hubby are needing something very different than what they are told to take. Right now I have modified my son's plan and he is doing really well. I think my ideas are more in line with the TE approach.
It is always good to talk to as many as possible before you make a decision.
http://www.malterinstitute.org/
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Onwards... i agree...read and discuss with as many as one can find. i have a friend whom drives to TX for TE services....she cannot say enough great things about them too. Make me want to get a reading of my HTMA there just to compare.- Re: best NB practicioners ring5100
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This is a reply to # 2,060,694Sorry, what is "HTLM"
And what is the difference between ARL hair anyl. protocal and this other lab mentioned. ?
Thanks. all new stuff to me.
Since I am in a very very severe adrenal status, I will need to find a NB practioner that is accommodating to this situation and I am very sensitive to so many nutrients, supplements and have low clearance, tolerance issues.
Which, in Dr. Lam's book on Adrenal Fatigue, is caused also by liver clearance, of which I will soon be starting some LipoGLutathione. ( the master recycler of all )
Paulette
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This is a reply to # 2,060,694Do you know where your friend drives to in TX?
Only that we live in Oklahoma and wonder, but if it's in Dallas area or further, that would be to far to drive.
Thanks. Paulette
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This is a reply to # 2,060,691Have you already spoken with him? Do you know his prices and much about his attitude, personality, etc.?
I think I read somewhere, he is in his 70's and lives in Arizona and was once a psycologist?
Thank you. Paulette- Re: best NB practicioners Marie64
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This is a reply to # 2,061,231Hi Paulette,
I was charged $140 for a hair analysis. I am not sure his re-test price thinking 140 but you can ask.
I use to spend about $660-$700 while on Endo Met supplements.( Was on 3 doses aday). Now I pay 100-120 for 3 month supple working with Rick Malter (Most TEI supplement). I am only on most of the supplements now 1 x a day and 2 supplements 2 times aday. He has no issues if you choice to buy your own vitamins or have left overs that he recommends you taking. Like I have my own Magnesium and potassium from my local vitamin store.
I messaged you the rest of the info I know about Rick.
Good Luck,
Marie
PS. IN the early 70's Paul Eck and Dr David Watts were researching together and Pual Eck at this time started ARL (does not was hair). In the Early 80's Eck and Watts split from an arguement. Watts Opened a lab very similiar to ARl called TEI (does not was hair). ARL lab is located in Arizona and TEI in Texas. On Another group Fernand did a short study on hair analysis and both had verry similiar findings. SO both labs are very close in their testing.
Hope this help you.
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- Re: best NB practicioners Marie64
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Hello Paulette,
As you know I used Theresa Vernon for 2.5 months..though very knowledgable... she was not able to just listen and not sell more products to me- it felt. The diet she advised - low carb - helped most, though once investigating AF/ copper toxicity..I knew that already. I still am thankful for her initial support...heck $500 bucks later I still am not mad.
Dr. Maureen Mintzlaff- whom I use currently is in alignment with my needs, gentle, not supplement selling to me, in fact reviews my HTMA w/ Dr. Wilson and Dr. Friehling before we consult. She too is a mother with a few children simular in age group to mine at home...she gets that i cannot detox only and not take care of my children, I am like a single parent with my husbands night job.
Simply put... I FEEL respected! This is huge for me. I was so lost, depressed and even the forum cannot take that away becuase for me i needed to still have that DR label to feel sure of what I was doing.....silly yes because i know MANY here provide more than one may ever get with a NB coach.
Go with your heart ....you will find the person who will make sense for you. many blessings to you Paulette
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This is a reply to # 2,060,692Onwards,
Have you used any of the TEI supplements? If so would you recommend them?- Re: best NB practicioners Marie64
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This is a reply to # 2,060,711HI Lolabear,
I am using most of them. I have no issues with them Plus I am on a low dose right now. WHich I like I can live my life.
Marie - Re: best NB practicioners Onwards
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This is a reply to # 2,060,711Lalobear- No not yet. My boys are both in 4 lows now so we ordered enough paramin to last a long time. Since they have both modified their programs it will take some time before we use things up.
Personally I have looked at both TEI and Endo-met supps and they both look like they are kind of the same in terms of additives, binders and fillers. This doesn't really concern me too much as I have made great progress using the Endo-met supps and so have the boys(on their modified programs). We will switch over to the TEI when the time comes. Some other things we buy from Swansons and will continue to do so. - Re: best NB practicioners ring5100
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Hi Paulette,
I am with Onwards. I did PM messaged you back. I am not a fan of TV's I only worked with her for 2 months and I found out she is more concerned about money then ones health. I want to change a few of my supplements froma health food store and she was so bent out of shape. She told me I needed to buy my supplements from her or she will charge me $100 when ever I called or needed help. Plus on a another group we found a few gals who were promised 20% off the supplements they never got that off. She charged them the full price like I was. Plus another girl was sent something and sharged for it that she did not need.
Onwards, you can call Rick and he will give you advice off you last hair analysis to get you Hubby and son on the right track until you get your re-test done. He is awesome like that.
Good Luck Paulette,
Please read my Pm message I asked you about the tanning you are haivng.
Marie
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- Re: best NB practicioners lalobear
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- Re: best NB practicioners siagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,060,631Hi Paulette,
I have worked with Theresa Vernon for the last 8 months. I do agree she likes to sell her supplements but have found after a few months of working with her that there is more to her than just the supplement selling. She answers my emails within the day of which i have sent her many. I have also called her when i had a meltdown as the supplements were making me anxious etc. I would say some of the other recommendations by the other people on here would be better for you if you are looking for kind and gentle. Theresa isn't that - she has a more masculine matter of fact energy but that works well for me. I also find her very knowledgeable - i don't buy every supplement she recommends - i just stick to the Endomet ones. Except for one time when i had a gum infection and i used some chinese herbs from her to heal it - took three days to heal and worked wonders. It seems from other peoples posts that Rick Malter is good and Susan Cachay. I guess we all need different things in our practitioner.
Good luck!!!
- Re: best NB practicioners INTi
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This is a reply to # 2,060,785To be honest, my practioner is not great but living in Australia, I'm limited in my selection. Think mine is like Theresa Vernon except he is open to trying cheaper supplements and is honest about other brands being the same. However, he pushes enemas etc which i don't use despite having bought an enema bag ready for use, but found i don't require it, my body just can't handle any impact from a strong detox yet.
However, I am finding that I am doing just fine without a practitioner in general because of this forum - it's been a God send. This forum is my practitioner! So i've been doing extremely well with advice from here and the supplements from my practitioner. I think most of it is a trial and error and having people tell you their experience without a commercial interest is an amazing added benefit. Think the forum has also been extremely helpful because in addition to their NB path to recovery most people here have been suffering other chronic related illnesses for so long and so they bring also a wealth of experience on related matters which i have found extremely helpful in the recovery process. It's like accessing a bag of goodies (advice on all related matters)ready for dispensing to others.
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- Re: best NB practicioners siagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,060,831Hi INTi,
Do you work with an aussie practitioner so you can get the supplements faster? Just curious as i called endomet labs to see if they could be shipped to aus via an american practitioner for my mum and they said yes. I know TV ships supplements to Australia. I am from Brisbane but live in LA and at some stage will move back (hopefully) and i was told i can have supplements ship direct from US. I guess it would take bit longer.- Re: best NB practicioners INTi
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This is a reply to # 2,060,852Hi Siagirl, yep it takes max 3 days to get it shipped interstate. Never tried ARL via international order, not sure if it would cost more and take longer, suspect it would. I only know of iherb that ships things dirt cheap to oz and takes max 5 days. But i've had other products shipped to oz from the USA and it takes 14 days and/0r 5 days but costs alot more and at times there is delays at Australia Post.
But send us an email when you get back and I can give you my practioners' details - think its fair to say i use him mainly to order products. I have you guys for most of the real support. Seems to work for me so far ;)
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This is a reply to # 2,061,031Thank you "ALL" so very much for the references provided.
I will have to write them all down and on a day I feel a bit better, come up with a decision.
I still have to set a side some more money for this and pray that will come about in end of May.
I am in such a very bad state of adrenal fatigue. Have been declining acturally the past 1.8 years.
The standard adrenal protocal from Dr. James Wilsons book on ADrenal fatigue, is not working as it did some years ago when I was in a moderate stage. So, I KNOW, because of the high cortisol levels of stress, I"m lost a lot of cell integrity, collagen greatly lost, lots of anxiety and sleep problems, very weak, thinning hair, digestive problems, all of which I never had in a moderate stage of AF.
So, I will check out of these NB practicioners, also one that is very knowledgable about my adrenal status and understands I need to take things very slowly because of low liver clearance and cell permeabiity, tolerances, etc.
Thank you so much.
I sincerely pray NB can be a stepping stone of which I can see some improvement. According to all the info. I've read on Bio-unavailable copper from Dr. Wilson's and Theresa Vernons website, I seem to fit the symptoms to a tee and probably have the past 17 years.
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This is a reply to # 2,060,831Hi INTi,
Yes i definitely find this space supportive and helpful. I am figuring you work with the guy in north QLD as it doesn't look like there are too many listed. I have learned to do the bits that i can tolerate too. Some things my body just can't do yet unfortunately. If i move i may keep working with TV and just plan accordingly with shipping and hair test times. i chose her because i follow Maria's blog http://www.restco.blogspot.com
and i swear i sometimes feel like i am reading about myself. She is recovering well with TV. Do you have a nice organic farmers market you go to in aus? I used to love going to my weekly organic market every weekend. I miss a lot of things about home.
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This is a reply to # 2,061,251Hi Siagirl, yep I go sometimes to the farmers markets, but they are so expensive. I'm finding that I don't really need them as i have an ozonated machine which i put my veges in and they pretty much clean out most toxins and parasites. But as my gut heals I'm finding i can handle most veges organic or not. BEsides not all organic veges are that fresh, which kind of undoes the whole "nutritional" value component of eating veges in the first place.I find frozen veges are the best for me at this stage,with a few chinese veges (as I live somewhere with big chinese population and they are in abundance) at least they are frozen straight out of harvesting and as long as they are properly frozen, i love the crunchy feel they still have - unlike some organic veges i've paid a lot for.
You are right, my NB practitioner is the one in Qld. When do you plan on coming over to OZ? would be great to converse with someone in Australia - we can swap notes!
I'm going to check out the link you sent me, love when there is a site on someone's personal healing journey - helps so much when there is someone out there with exact symptoms and seeing what they do to heal. It's like there is no need to re-invent the wheel!
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Thanks.
As mentioned, and mostly because I have anxiety and Depression bad . . . and get stressed to easily.
this is why I need to work with someone who is very gentle and understanding and has a positive attitude.
Thanks again.
Paulette
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This is a reply to # 2,060,631PS to all again.
ALso need a pract. that is well knowledged in "severe" adrenal exhaustion, the stage I am in and the severe status of this takes a different approach than one who is in a mild to moderate stage of AF.
Paulette
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