Oral thrush but test negative for HI... 
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Hi! 3.5 years ago (2009), I slept with my first BF. He was the 1st and last I've been with like that. We had a sexua| relationship for 2 months before I broke up with him. I've been celibate since 2009. Around November 2012, I started getting white coated tongue and thrush on my gums. I first did an HIV 1/2 including group O antibody blood test at the hospital which came out negative in December 2012. I was put on Diflucan in February 2013. I then did an HIV 1/2 oraquick test in mid-February 2013 which came out negative. I finally did an HIV DNA PCR in early March 2013 which also came out negative. I would have accepted my results except that I've been getting soaking night sweats since November, constant headaches, as well as thrush. Has anyone experienced or know of anyone who has experienced something similar where they have all these persistent symptoms but continuously test negative? My doctor claimed that anxiety was my problem, but I had nothing to be anxious of when these symptoms came about. I only considered HIV when all these symptoms persisted.
Thank you for your help.
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- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... Kcirla
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,049,260You're very likely to have candida overgrowth, which is the main cause of thrush. Anxiety has very little to do with it. Don't listen to your doctor, most physicians have no knowledge of how to cure candida overgrowth permanently. Diflucan alone will not cure it.
Candida overgrowth is a condition linked to many diseases, AIDS included. The main causes of it are Antibiotics , poor diet, some pharmaceutical drugs, stress... When the candida that we all have starts to take over the good gut flora, symptoms like those that you have (and many others) start to appear.
A complete change of diet and the intake of herbs and probiotic foods are recommended to cure it permanently. Antifungal pharmaceutical drugs, although efficient at killing candida, are not recommended because they're often hard on the liver.
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- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... saywhatagain
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This is a reply to # 2,049,268I actually think that anxiety and stress are one of the main underlying causes of candida (as you said Kcirla that stress can be a cause of candida) but not the way that this doctor is saying it. It sounds like he is saying that it is just something psychological which is probably not the case at all. Anxiety and stress build up in the body over time and while they may have psychological causes at first, many times it can be purely physical stress, in either case, it will become physical stress over time. This will repress the immune system and allow candida and other bacterial infections to invade the body. Yes all of the many other causes we know about play a role, Antibiotics , diet, etc. but stress is really the key. This is a cyclical problem because as candida and other infections come in this increases stress in the body even more. The only way to completely cure candida is to remove all stress from the body and allow the immune system to do its job, low-carb diets and anti-fungals generally only work if it is a very mild case of candida.
- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... sammykay
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This is a reply to # 2,049,299Thank you so much, saywhatagain!
I will do my utmost to stick to a candida-fighting diet. I started taking olive leaf extract today and intend to invest in saw palmetto and ashwagandha tablets. I'm not the most patient person, but I guess I'll have to learn as it appears that this detox process will take awhile. I'm preparing for an interview and having this white tongue is embarrassing to the ultimate, not to mention that the night sweats make me miserable at night, and extremely fatigued during the day, which exacerbates my stress level, repressing my immune system further. I'm just tired of this. I'll try to calm down too, except it is sometimes difficult whenever I wake up with thrush, you know?
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This is a reply to # 2,049,268@Kcirla
Thank you for responding. I thought I would have someone telling me I'm being obnoxious and obsessive about my negative HIV results. It's just that the symptoms have remained for so long (going on 5 months) with minimal improvements. Admittedly, my diet is poor and I do have vitamin d deficiency (which has been shown to affect immunity), so it is possible that I have a fungal overgrowth. I'm just shocked at how utterly debilitating candida is. I'm even more surprised by how dismissive my doctor was about my symptoms. Thrush is not to be taken lightly! I eat Sugar like a maniac so I'll have to completely revamp my diet. Hopefully the symptoms will clear up soon. White tongue=not a good look.
Thanks!- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... saywhatagain
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This is a reply to # 2,049,404Look back through the archives and you will see many, many people in the same situation you are in now or much worse in many cases. Be very careful with any anti-fungals right now as these will add more stress to your system. Best thing to start with is diet, clean it up as best as you can, but out sugars, but you don't have to cut out fruit that is your choice, cut out all packaged and refined food. That is the first step. If you have a very mild case of candida anti-fungals and probiotics and a clean diet can help clear this up rather quickly, unfortunately most people that post on this forum have more extreme cases and this takes years to clear up, for these people, anti-fungals and probiotics will cause more problems. Pay attention to your body, die-off symptoms are okay but should only last a few day, if you feel terrible for weeks at a time, anti-fungals are probably not beneficial for you.Advertisement
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- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... kcbmmxi
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This is a reply to # 2,049,260It sounds like candida or another yeast or fungal issue. If you have only had one partner and don't share needles; then your negative HIV tests should be definitive. Do some candida research here and begin to alter your diet accordingly. Prepare for some die-off reactions if you add herbal anti-fungals like Grapefruit-Seed-Extract or olive leaf or even just raw garlic. Good luck--KB.
- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... sammykay
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This is a reply to # 2,049,289Hi KB! thank you for your time!
Yes, my first BF was my one and only and I have never done drugs/shared needles. I think my imagine got the best of me at one point where I imagined I had a superstrain that couldn't be detected by DNA PCR or a duo HIV antibody test 3 years after the fact. Like I mentioned to Kcirla, I'll look into changing my diet. More importantly, I'll do thorough research. I guess I should also add that my symptoms began when I moved into a new home and this home had SERIOUS mold and dandur problems. However, I had not known that when I moved into my home and found out 3 months later after my family paid $500 for an air quality inspection. The reason why I freaked out about my symptoms relating to HIV was because I was the only one who had night sweats, recurring thrush, and a noticeable white tongue. However, my mom did have severe nose bleeds (which I never had) and rashes. Thank you again, KB. I'll stop being neurotic!
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Hello,
Thanks for your inquiry. I would also rather think that anxiety may be what is making these symptoms appear and persist. All the necessary tests have proven you are negative to HIV so you are indeed negative. There is nothing to be worried about. Go ahead and live your life to the brim.
Just to clear your mind and have a feel good factor, go through a good all-round STI therapy and get the emotional balance right and I am sure all would be well with you.
I wish you the very best of health.
Dominic- Re: Oral thrush but test negative fo... sammykay
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This is a reply to # 2,051,037Dear Dominic,
I will try. People have been telling me to move on, but for some reason now I might actually start listening.
1 step at a time, huh?
will do
Thank you!
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