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I read somewhere on this lip peeling forum that saliva contains cortisol so constant licking would be like applying a cortisone cream. I do not know if it is true.- Re: about the saliva DepressedLips
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This is a reply to # 1,992,031Well today is exactly 2 weeks since I started doing the saliva and cocoa butter lip balm method and although my lips aren't fully healed yet, I do think that this method is improving my lips. I no longer get the huge crusts on my lips anymore and most of my lip no longer turns white at all when it comes into contact with water. My lips are actually starting to look normal again :) haha
The only thing i have left to heal is the very upper part on my lower lip that still gets a little bit of white skin and also the "triangular" part on my upper lip hasn't healed yet but each day it seems to get better and regain a little bit of its natural color.
Like I said, I AM NOT fully healed yet so I want to wait a little bit longer before I make a full post about it but i just wanted to share my progress with you guys. Hopefully in a couple more weeks I will actually be cured and i'll finally be able to leave this f***kin forum! lol Anyways let me know what you guys think and good luck to you all. Peace.
Oh also I havent taken any pictures since I started this treatment so should I start taking some? I dont really think theres a point but if you guys want me too i will. Let me know, later.
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This is a reply to # 1,992,068Depressed,
Are you sure that your just not getting crusts because you are using oil on your lips? Everyone on here only gets thick yellow crusts when they completely leave their lips alone. So are you saying that the buildup is just different from when you were leaving them alone, or they are different then they usually are when using an ointment/oil on your lips?
I hope you understand my question.
Also you should take pics. And keep us updated - Re: about the saliva longterm
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This is a reply to # 1,992,068It is odd that the vitamin C paste helped to heal the raw triangular part on my upper lip, but my bottom lip still peels or is still affected somehow. And the reverse is true in your case. Why is this?- Re: about the saliva DepressedLips
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This is a reply to # 1,992,074Healing yeah i understand lol like if you keep your lips constantly moisturized you won't get any crust at all but even the first week that I started using the lip balm my whole bottom lip would be covered with a thin white layer of skin and now its only just the upper part of my lower lip that barely grows any white skin at all. Everyday I apply the lip balm it takes off the white skin and then I just apply more lip balm directly on top of the lip.
Longterm yeah i guess it is reversed for us haha but neither of my lips are fully healed yet, I've just seen the most improvement on my bottom lip and like I said the triangular part on my upper lip seems to get better each day. Hopefully it's just a matter of time before my lips are back to normal again :)
Ok i'll try to post a pic in a bit.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,992,084how many times per day would you say that you are licking your lips and putting on the cocoa butter?
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This is a reply to # 1,992,084hey depressed so your just licking your lips and applying shea butter how many times a day you doing it???
i get the same problem as you at the bottom lip. i think this is becasue the new skin starts buliding strength from the outter side of the lips and then when growing to heal towards the inner mouth the skin comes in contact with saliva and become weak and cant hold on strong enough causing it to peel and become a bit whitish!
its weird becasue if i was a girl i wouldnt even care about ec ay. as long as i could figure out away to go swimming in the water with out it turning white.
the only thing also is the white gunk that builds up over night when i wake up its always on the inner inner part of my top and bottom lip almost were the lips touch the teeth. f***ing annoying. i wonder if we constantly keep doing this our lips will eventually go back to normal and im talking like doing this for like 3 or 4 months?
i always try and think well what did the people do that got ec and got rid of it straight away and never went to the doctors or to this forum? surely there would have to be some people in the world. i mean its clearly not a 1 person in the world disease.
the lip balm im using has got anti bacterial fungi and viral properties in it. although i dont know how potent the ingredient is in the lip balm.
i will laugh so hard if something so simple like this works in the long run. i mean i kinda now believe the shea butter and licking lady at the start i was abit ify at the start but i actually reckon it might of worked for her. who knows!
anyways man how long you going to do this method for?
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This is a reply to # 1,992,100hey soil work! it hard to tell really to tell you the truth i only applied it twice. and when ec came back i only say it for about 4 days into the cycle. it definately came back but like i said its hard to tell. and i dont think 2 applications would be enough.
how you going anyways bra??? whats you currently trying??? what dont you try the indian dudes treatment???
anyways i been eating a f***kckckckcikccckkk load of chicken wings! goood stuff!- Re: about the saliva soilwork
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This is a reply to # 1,992,104I tried the fried chicken method! it didn't work! but keep trying it tastes good.
I would try the Indian guys method but I don't have beta gel or elovera.
I am currently trying bactroban on my lips and up my nose a couple times a day. it makes my lips kinda numb at first.
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This is a reply to # 1,992,074Longterm! My son said the same thing the Vitamin C paste made his upper lip look a lot better, too?- Re: about the saliva Healing2021
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This is a reply to # 1,992,106Maybe it has something to do with our top lip being less damaged/affected.
ECParent,
I hope if it made your sons lip better, he has continued it. From what I remember your son is about to try the beta gel. But if the Vitamin C paste was helping he should stick with it.
Also I find it kind of weird that he still doesnt come on here and talk himself. Is there a reason? But your a good and dedicated mom.- Re: about the saliva jsl123
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This is a reply to # 1,992,114yeah maybe although most people bit and picked the triangular part alot especially in the begining like me and vunk were our top triangular part started peeling.
i reckon we all just got f***keddd up chronic chapped peeling lips. just simple rare cases of chapped lips.- Re: about the saliva jsl123
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This is a reply to # 1,992,128i man for me my first epesoide of ec lasted for about 1 months just the top lip and the triangular part keeped peeling and becoming white when in contact with water. all i did was bite it spit it out and apply blistex and did that for about 3 weeks and it just healed and went back to normal.
so i wonder all the time well if it healed once im sure my body can heal it again. although the first time it wasnt as chronic but maybe that becasue i keeped it moist maybe if i just left it it would of crusted like doing the leave it alone theory. thats why i reckon your derm is right when saying she treated the person from just months of continual vaseline.
anyways thats my 2 cents for the day. im off to work next week so im pretty excited!- Re: about the saliva Healing2021
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This is a reply to # 1,992,129Yeah well treating it as a wound is my next treatment for sure. Based on my biopsy it seems like the most likely diagnosis.
So I'll try Hyaluronic acid for about 4 weeks. Most people I have read on here took it as a supplement, but I will be using topical Hyaluronic. And those I have read using topical Hyaluronic acid all used some stuff they bought online, so I'm not sure if that's any different then the prescription stuff my derm wants me to use. Cuz she said it is pretty expensive for a prescription, like 30-40$, so I wonder if its a little better than the online/over the counter stuff.
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This is a reply to # 1,992,136sounds promising dude! wasnt there a guy that was currently doing that???
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This is a reply to # 1,992,144Yeah,
But like I said he was using some stuff he got online (but I really don't know if that makes a difference).
But he was also using some other oil also, so I don't know.
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This is a reply to # 1,992,146true how much does this ec shit sucksss
worse thing! i had a cute girl try talk to me at the gym the other day and literally freaked out becasue i was paranoid of my lips she must thought i was rude and a kook! ahhh welll!!!!!!!!!!
f***ckcickckckckc ec!
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This is a reply to # 1,992,147hey guys I've been out in the sun and swimming in the water around the falls in the grand canyon, and my lips are feeling so much better! Everything has peeled this week, and only a small part was really sensitive and inflamed when it came off as you'll be able to see in the picture.
Also I have been letting the saliva run all over my lips when I take a shower for quite some time now and it seems to really be helping, so I still think the saliva will be an aid to healing this.
Also my friend that came on vacation with us has psoriasis with red bumps all over and when we were hiking the first day we all got a little burnt and since the sun was behind us it was mainly burnt on our backside, and her psoriasis is nearly healed on the back of her legs! It's pretty amazing...and the front still looks basically like it did before. But I'm thinking like I thought before back in Jan that sun exposure is a major help with this as well. So when I get back home I am going to be going out in the sun a lot more and swimming in the ocean.
Let me know what you guys think! The left part of my lip (right side of picture) wasn't sensitive at all when the skin came off, so it seems like it's doing a lot better! At least I look a little normal at the moment :) yay!
Click here for the pic!
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This is a reply to # 1,992,150hey dan! lips look awesome i can see were its peeled they look a little raw and sensitive but apart from that everything looks great! did the top recently peel aswell? it will be interesting to see how the next cyclee builds up! as we will be able to see if this leave it alone thery is really working or not. becasue off that picture your lips look really like there on there way to being cured!
also i agree sun and salt is good for skin.
also thanks for the p.m message!
also keep going man really hope this works for you! the big question is if it does cure you do you think its a cure for everybody or do you think theres different types of cures out there? i would pressume if its just the lips trying to heal back to normal there shpould be plenty of different variations in getting healed!
your on your 7th month now ay geeez its been along time! really hope this works for you man! if it does ill have to give it a shot later on in life when i build my confidence and have 12 months to kill!- Re: about the saliva lipshitz
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This is a reply to # 1,992,164Yeah, I used Hyaluronic acid I ordered online for about two months, with emu oil to help it penetrate the epidermis. In the last two weeks of using it, I experimented with applying more of it and more frequently, and the rate of peeling sped up slightly during this time.
I'm still in the phase of not using it to see if my lips go back to how they were before, or get worse. For two weeks now off it, I can say that my peeling rate has slowed even further (9 days), and there is healthy looking skin.
So I would recommend only using two drops/per day of the acid and two drops of emu oil (or another carrier oil). Using it by itself it seems to just dry on the lips quickly and make them feel tight. To do proper experimentation, you could put it only on the upper or lower lip and see if there is a discernible difference.
I just picked up some cold-pressed avocado oil and will talk to my naturopath tomorrow about mixing it with Vitamin B12, which is variation of a Psoriasis treatment without exfoliating agents. I want to experiment with this as well while I wait to receive my chelating agent (DMSA) to remove the lead and mercury in my system.
As for the hyaluronic acid, check the past threads cause someone posted about some "superior" stuff, maybe there was something to it. I remember also reading back then about something called Matrixyl 3000, which also stimulates collagen production and is sometimes sold as a mixture with hyaluronic acid and Vitamin C. I think it was drylips or jsl123.
Peace,
C.S.
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This is a reply to # 1,992,031I bought shea butter, which is more solid than liquid. I decided to spit in it to make it easier to apply! Forget the vitamin C paste. It seemed to be working at first, but I think it just dried the raw part on my upper lip. It is now soggy white skin so it did not heal.
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