Over the last 3 days, my blood pressure has been slowly creeping up, and last evening it hit 180 / 112. I went to the emergency room, and within 10 minutes it had dropped to 150/ 90 (which is still high for me). My concerns and questions are as follows:
History:
The other nutrients I am taking:
I went to the emergency room. By the time I reached the emergency room, my BP was 150/91 and I had not taken anything or intervened in any manner. At that time I told the physician that the following symptoms preceded the BP spike for about a week:
The test results are as follows: (* -flagged as abnormal, but not a source of concern)
Electrolytes
Organic / Inorganic
Thyroid Stimulating Hormone: 2.44* (Indicated this is slightly high, but not a significant deviation)
All Urinalysis Results were Normal: (I will present a few results)
I am looking for help in understanding the sudden spike in my BP and how I may address it. I sometimes believe it is related to Adrenal - Thyroid - Candida / Mold issues. I am not sure.
I have also noticed that my ears sometimes hurt when I chew. Have had lots of stuffiness and needing to pop my ears to clear them since the sinus infection. I continue to have lots of post-nasal drainage that creates a feeling of a lump in my throat sometimes.
All feedback would be helpful. I am looking for a Naturopath that can make the holistic assessment, but until then am hoping I can get some help from this forum that has a wealth of information.
Kind Regards,
Carolyn
Hi T2,
Thanks for your feedback.
I have also had a history of Adrenal Fatigue and Hypothyroidism. Had an episode similar in October, and it was my Thyroid medicine that was too high.
I forgot to note that I have noticed some popping and scratchy sounds in my (R) ear when I chew. A similar sensation is experienced in my Right jaw. Not sure if the BP is a precipitating factor (or vice versa).
I have had Tinnitus for years....seems to be worsening over time.
Diet History:
Have fallen off the wagon in terms of cookies, cake, ice cream (3 - 4 weeks prior to this episode). Over the last 3-4 weeks I have been eating a more healthy diet with vegetables, juicing (greens, such as spinach, cucumbers, apples, celery, fresh ginger), occasional bread, protein (fish, chicken), gala apples. But, I really was bad for a very long time.
Have had some issues with Candida and Mold. Should have been on a stringent anti-Candida diet, but I opted to fewer restriction as noted above.
Thanks for your feedback and
Kind Regards,
Carolyn
I have also had a history of Adrenal Fatigue
The adrenal fatigue can lead to the high blood pressure problems you mentioned earlier. The adrenal glands are over reacting with epinephrine.
and Hypothyroidism. Had an episode similar in October, and it was my Thyroid medicine that was too high.
Too high of thyroid medication can also speed up the heart rate and raise blood pressure.
I forgot to note that I have noticed some popping and scratchy sounds in my (R) ear when I chew. A similar sensation is experienced in my Right jaw. Not sure if the BP is a precipitating factor (or vice versa).
There are several possibilities there. Are you on any bisphosphonate drugs for osteoporosis or have any joint pain in the jaw.
I have had Tinnitus for years....seems to be worsening over time.
Tinnitus is most often from a constriction of blood flow in the ear area. This can be from a number of things such as diabetes, atherosclerosis, displaced vertebrae, medications like nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, etc.
I didn't completely answer your questions.
I forgot to mention that, yes there is a history in my family of High Blood Pressure and Diabetes.
First of all diabetes IS NOT hereditary. Secondly, high blood pressure is common in diabetes in most part from the vasoconstrictive effects of elevated insulin. In the early stages of type 2 diabetes, which accounts for 95% of diabetic cases, there is actually an excess of insulin being secreted.
I do not want to be a prisoner to my genetic heritage. I understand that sometimes the Medical Model is the answer for some, but I just do not want to have to do any sustained and/or prolonged pharmaceuticals. I see the devastation that they can cause, so am looking to understand my body and its requirements.
I was a Registered Nurse and had a hard time with some of the approaches, so hence my statement above. I left the field for Information Technology...:-)
Glad to hear that. I left allopathic medicine a long time ago as well because in short they didn't have a clue what they were doing. They were too busy still practicing medicine rather than performing medicine. And you were not allowed to really help people. Even if you knew how to help a cancer or AIDS patient you were not allowed to. You had to stand there and watch them die. So I got fed up and left.
I believe there are answers for my problem that are even more natural than the approaches I have initiated. The critical issue for me is to understand the underlying problems.
What you described is most often from over reaction of the adrenals. But you also mentioned that you have had problems in the past with high thyroid hormones from medication. This actually can lead to the same symptoms. Are you on the hormones just for hypothyroidism or for a thyroidectomy?
I know this is going to sound "not too bright", but I suggest that you visit you tube and watch a lecture by the name of "Sugar, the Bitter Truth" One of the things that sugar does is raise your BP,
Sugar does not raise blood sugar. In diabetics the elevated insulin from injections or from the build up in the early stages of type 2 diabetes is what raises the blood pressure.
and it causes inflamation. since your glucose was high, I suggest this. After listening to that very informative lecture, I will no longer be eating sugar or it's pals. Robert H. Lustig is the name of the lecturer.
I have never seen any evidence that sugar increases inflammation either. Inflammation is a result of hormones known as prostaglandins. Various things can trigger prostaglandins such as arachidonic acid from meats,
Sugar does suppress immunity though by competing with vitamin C. Therefore, the sugar suppresses white blood cell activity.
Hi Carolyn,
What is really important to also know is what are your pulse readings are normally and during these spikes? Not as important, but which can be helpful sometimes is if the heart rate is irregular or irregular.
Hi HV,
My pulse rate during these intervals is usually in the 89 - 94 range. The pulse is strong and regular.
When this happened in October, I had an X-ray, an EKG and enzymes drawn. They were normal, with the exception of some calcification in my spine. My neck does seem to have sounds as if there is calcification or particles when I turn it in a certain way.
Today, I decided to leave off every vitamin, nutrient and the Armour Thyroid. My Blood Pressure this morning was: 144/88; at Lunch it was: 142/87. A few minutes ago it was 165/88. The thing that is strange is that the evening that I went to the ER, my pulse rate was in the 180 range (noted in original post) and then dropped down to 150+ by the time I reached the ER.
I seem to get hot, and then there is a spike. I ate a few pecans about 30 minutes ago, felt warm, took my BP and it was 165/88.
I have started taking the following:
- Olive Leaf Extract
- Blood Pressure Factors
- Increased my Magnesium Citrate
- Water Factors (notice some mild swelling in my wrists)
- BP Dilavasic (a product given to me my my Naturopath)
- Valerian
I stopped the Adren-Cortical Fractions as it seemed to have a stimulating effect.
I stopped the Benadryl that I was taking for dust allergies.
Thanks much in advance for your assistance.
Kind Regards,
Carolyn
The only thing that has really beaten it for me was fasting with water only and significant diet modification. Firstly I would recommend a good read about the Water fasting forum. Over the years there have been a number of posts about BP and its response to fasting. There is a peer reviewed trail from "True Health North" which details the responses of over 150 people to this technique. And if you wish to read further, I think I have remembered this correctly: A Dr Goldstein has documented his fast history and BP is recorded all the way through.
T2, thanks for the feedback. I am making some significant diet modifications. In fact, have lost 4 pounds over the lat 4 weeks. I suspect some of it was related to fluid retention. Not sure I am ready for a Water fast....as I am sometimes hypoglycemic and that will not likely work for me.
On the diet influences quickly: No milk, no sugar, no grain carbs, greatly reduced carbs from fruit, (I ate a lot of fruit), increased veg component much of it fresh and raw: lots of root crops. Make sure micro-nutrient Vit C Vit D CQ10 etc and mineral levels are excellent, Mg Ca Na K etc. Lots of healthy fats and some protein (not as much as the fats). The diet is "unfashionable": resolve is required. Then envy of friends when they see the benefits is the reward for declining the cheese cake.
As to diet, I have eliminated all dairy, but have not eliminated all grain. I find that Cream of Buckwheat (which is not Buckwheat as we know it) works OK in my body. I am creating lots of "green juices" via Vita-Mix. I am not taking my Vitamins right now, but plan to re-integrate a multi-vitamin, extra Raw C,COQ10, Mixed Tocopherols/Tocotrienols, Fish Oil, Silymarin, NAC. I do not eat red meat, but consume Wild Salmon, Sardines and Organic Chicken.
I'm not sure what you BP measuring procedures are? Being systematic about that is important.
I have a pretty sensitive BP Monitor by Omron (Model: BP785). I take my BP on rising, at lunch and in the evening.
Again, thanks for your feedback.
Correction: My BP, not my pulse rate was 180.
OK, that definitely indicates epinephrine induced hypertension. I will have to go in to this more later. I am teaching a class on diabetes again tonight and have to be there in an hour so I am out the door.
James,
Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you. I will point out a couple observations that I have made.
1. I was getting Vitamin D-3 from several sources and wonder if that precipitated an increased level in my serum plasma, which might increase the BP?
2. Blood Pressure has decreased ince getting off of all Vitamins (including Vitamin D) and using:
3. I have used deep breathing (abdominal) to calm bodily systems.
Just some ovservations that I have recently made.
Carolyn
Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you. I will point out a couple observations that I have made.
1. I was getting Vitamin D-3 from several sources and wonder if that precipitated an increased level in my serum plasma, which might increase the BP?
Yes, this could be playing part of the role since the D can raise your calcium more. I glanced back over you original post a while ago and noticed a few other things you mentioned that I will go back and address.
2. Blood Pressure has decreased ince getting off of all Vitamins (including Vitamin D) and using:
Be careful with ingesting clay. Clay generally contains a lot of calcium, but also a lot of aluminum and heavy metals.
Before olive leaf became popular as an antimicrobial its primary use was as a sedative.
Magnesium citrate will definitely help. It does not address the epinephrine, but magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker. You also mentioned in your earlier post about muscle twitches, which indicates a magnesium deficiency. I prefer magnesium malate, but magnesium citrate is a close second choice.
Ashwagandha will help with epinephrine-associated hypertension due to its supportive effect on the adrenals and by increasing GABA levels. Ashwagandha is also a natural ACE inhibitor. So this is a very good choice.
I do not know what the ingredients are in this one.
3. I have used deep breathing (abdominal) to calm bodily systems.
Just some ovservations that I have recently made.
Getting back to the high blood pressure and pulse, as I mentioned earlier this sounds like epinephrine induced hypertension. Of course there are various things that will raise blood pressure such as calcium, ACE, insulin, prostaglandin inhibitors, water retention, etc. But most things that raise blood pressure will not raise pulse like that other than epinephrine. Natural beta blockers such as ashwagandha are great choices for epinephrine induced hypertension as long as it is not induced from an adrenal tumor. If this were the case though then I would expect a much higher BP and pulse.
In your case though it sounds like you may have more than one contributor to your high blood pressure though. If your thyroid medications are not being controlled properly this can also contribute as well as your elevated serum calcium.
Over the last 3 days, my blood pressure has been slowly creeping up, and last evening it hit 180 / 112. I went to the emergency room, and within 10 minutes it had dropped to 150/ 90 (which is still high for me). My concerns and questions are as follows:
History:
I recommend staying away from the cortical extract and anything else with glandulars. They can over stimulate the adrenals in the short term and adrenal glandulars/extracts can atrophy the adrenals with regular use. If you have been on it for a while though you will need to wean off slowly.
For the vitamin C try to get your C from natural sources as much as possible. Natural sources tend to be stronger and more stable than the synthetic ascorbic acid commonly sold as vitamin C. If you do take the synthetic don't over do it. I recommend no more than 500mg 4 times daily.
Those are dangerous drugs, and simply trying to kill Candida does not work. If the terrain is still too alkaline to the point that it is conducive to Candida overgrowth then the Candida will simply grow right back. Candida is a normal part of all bodies, but is normally kept in check by the acids produced by our flora. You would be better off focusing on cultured foods and prebiotics to restore the flora.
Most sinus infections are fungal in origin, but people are frequently put on antibiotics that only make the problem worse. Run a search on this forum for "sinus infections". I have recommendations on how to use probiotics to deal with the infection.
Digestive enzymes also shut down the body's own production of enzymes. In addition, many contain cellulase and hemicellulase that can worsen Candida:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1480855#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1555407#i
You ought to look in to weaning off this. Armour will shut your thyroid down further. Thyroid medications are also well known for contributing to bone loss and if not regulated properly could also be contributing to your high pulse and blood pressure.
The other nutrients I am taking:
Don't exceed 400IU daily. Higher levels can screw with hormones.
I went to the emergency room. By the time I reached the emergency room, my BP was 150/91 and I had not taken anything or intervened in any manner. At that time I told the physician that the following symptoms preceded the BP spike for about a week:
The first two symptoms can indicate low magnesium and elevated calcium. Keep in mind that calcium is a muscle contractor and magnesium is a muscle relaxant.
The test results are as follows: (* -flagged as abnormal, but not a source of concern)
Electrolytes
Organic / Inorganic
Thyroid Stimulating Hormone: 2.44* (Indicated this is slightly high, but not a significant deviation)
All Urinalysis Results were Normal: (I will present a few results)
I am looking for help in understanding the sudden spike in my BP and how I may address it. I sometimes believe it is related to Adrenal - Thyroid - Candida / Mold issues. I am not sure.
I mentioned in the other post that you likely have several things contributing to your high blood pressure including the low magnesium, high calcium.
With the calcium being on the high side they should have also checked your parathyroid hormone levels.
I have also noticed that my ears sometimes hurt when I chew. Have had lots of stuffiness and needing to pop my ears to clear them since the sinus infection. I continue to have lots of post-nasal drainage that creates a feeling of a lump in my throat sometimes.
All feedback would be helpful. I am looking for a Naturopath that can make the holistic assessment, but until then am hoping I can get some help from this forum that has a wealth of information.
The suggestions I made in these posts should get you started. See how you respond and I can make recommended adjustments based on results.
I want to share the approach (and protocol) I have followed along with my observations and tracking results:
02/22: Discontinued all nutrients,including Vitamin D, Multivitamins, COQ10, Tocopherols, etc. Did not take Armour Thyroid Extract; Eliminated Sugar, Bread; Consumed Vegetables and Protein
Taking:
02/23: Resumed Armour Thyroid Extract
Continued the items from 02/22; Did not add anything; Continued the dietary restrictions.
02/24: Same regime; increased water consumption to about 12 glasses of spring water per day
02/25: Added blueberries (1 cup) to my AM meal; Added Life Extension Multi-Nutrient mix, COQ10, Mixed Tocopherols, Nystatin for Mild Candida;
02/26: Added Curcumin, Continued with additions from previous days
02/27: Dilavasic BP not taken in about 3 days; ran out of the product
Will summarize the remaining days:
2/28: Highest BP noted after eating an apple in the evening; My body felt warm and my BP was taken and the results: 148/81
2/29: Highest BP 138/79;
3/01: BP Range: 118/75 - 123/ 79; p: 76 - 85 (Note: Had a soy-based, low-glycemic bar)
3/02: BP Range: 117/72 - 124/79; p: 76 - 84; Ate 1 Larabar and 1/2 metagenic, soy-based, low-glycemic bar)
3/03: BP Range: 112/69, 123/74, 141/79 (Note: Increased warmth, headache and BP elevation noted after eating field peas and a salad containing vinegar); pulse range: 72 - 89; Was able to get BP down to 115/73 after vitamin consumption and allowing the body to process the insulin surge.
3/04: Headache on rising; felt it was residual from the previous evening; BP - 134/77; P - 91
Midday BP: 125/79;
Evening BP: 116/73; P - 79
I am still gathering data; My blood pressure seems to be responding to the nutrients, but I still have these spikes that I continue to investigate and track.
I would appreciate any feedback that you might provide. Thanks in advance for the assistance from this forum.
Carolyn
Hi Carolyn,
There does appear to be a pattern of your blood pressure rising after meals. This leads me to believe that at least in part that the problem may have to do with insulin resistance. Spikes in insulin from the food can cause constriction of the blood vessels leading to higher blood pressure. Normally insulin will dilate blood vessels in the small amounts that are normally released. When a person has insulin resistance though the pancreas can release more insulin than normal. In higher levels the insulin has an opposite effect and constricts the blood vessels raising the blood pressure.
If this is the case then chromium polynicotinate and magnesium malate can help increase insulin sensitivity.