Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasmin 
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MoreHow they are related? I really need some trustful info
I received my ceruloplasmin result today. It is 180. The reference is 200-600. Chelation continue...
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Author: "andrewhallcutler"
Date: 23 Feb 2005 06:35:28 -0000
The ceruloplasmin is relevant to copper, the rest are generally relevant to autism but not directly to copper.
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Newport on Copper
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Copper Toxicity
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- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... #68716
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This is a reply to # 1,890,918Thank you.
I took lot of NAC + MSM, zinc, molybdenum and it seems to work.
The problem is that now I crave plant foods - potatoes, tomato sauce, rice bread, nuts...
My hemoglobin and iron are low...
Is it possible to be deficient in copper?- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Whispering Wind
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It is very possible to be deficient in copper, yes.
I had a nice conversation last night and copper came up. I realized I had not taken my chlorophyll in many months so prior to going to sleep I dosed down a good four tablespoons and cannot believe the difference I feel this am, better than I have in months.
The problem with supplementation to remember is that it can definitely throw off other nutrients in the body, use of zinc for any length of time is always needing a balance of copper. Go buy a bottle of chloropyll and enjoy!
I'm so relieved to have been reminded of this. Thanks Trapper! - Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,891,071You need to read those links I posted again. Its possible to be both toxic and deficient at the same time.
Also you forgot the rule that states no Zinc without Copper in proper ratio...
...also if youi supply copper in salt form your body can chose to let it go if not needed. This one has the correct ratio of 10:1 copper:zinc:
http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-OptiZinc-240-Tablets/1361?at=0
- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,891,201iherb is a great company.
dang! i have been using jarrows 15:1 formula!!!
AAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,891,244You may want to fix my post its of course 10:1 or 8:1 in favor of zinc. Which also makes that supplement way out of ratio..or a labeling issue..
Zinc 30 mg or 30000 mcg
Copper 300 mcg
- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... #68716
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This is a reply to # 1,891,252I don't have copper toxicity for sure or at least not in noticeable form.
Zinc was my every day pill years ago. I overuse it. I used also a lot of molybdenum + NAC + MSM.
I'm low in hemoglobin and iron... without copper is impossible to make hem.
Do you know any examination to have some clue except ceruloplasmin? Ferritin maybe?
- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... #68716
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- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Newport
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- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Whispering Wind
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When I take Zinc and forget to take chlorophyll I have problems, like recent. I can tell you that when I take chlorophyll and no zinc, I have zero issues. This is what I use. It's excellent.
http://www.amazon.com/Chlorophyll-100mg-Liquid-World-Organics/dp/B000KITWYC/r...
- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Newport
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- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,891,262>>without copper is impossible to make hem.
Oxidized copper cannot be used for this, so it is possible to be deficient in copper yet toxic with oxidized copper.
Only NAC and Moly work on oxidized copper..but unlike binding fresh copper with sulfur which makes it available to the body oxidized copper cannot be reused and must be excreted.
See Hulda Clark on copper toxicity and sources like pipes, but I would add the new chlorine chemistry used in the water supply to that...
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This is a reply to # 1,891,244This is ironic! I was thinking the other day about the ratios. I actually stopped the Jarrows one,(15mg Opti-zinc/1mg copper) about 8 weeks ago. I started noticing fatigue, really tired. Any ways i wasn't taking any zinc or copper for 8 weeks and realised that i was CRAVING "chocolate" with a capital "C" big time, the more Molyb i took, the cravings got worse even tho despite my years of being exposed to in-organic Copper(drinking water, swimming and showers). Chocolate has COPPER and MAGNESIUM. I knew it wasn't Magnesium as i was taking it a bit and still am. ALong with B6, active form.
So if Newport says its possible to have both def and toxicity. This could explain things..
When i had this organic non-diary chocolate it had a lot of Iron 4mg per bar. I had three and felt pretty good, wondering if it was the Stevia Sugar (it was low). But now i realise its the IRON! LOL
I will also change brands to Newport one! Thank you mate
WINNING!!! Got my tests done last week, find out if it is so! :) Thanks Newport and team!
- Re: Adrenal hormomes and ceruloplasm... Newport
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You've already addressed this Newport, but the link you posted contains a zinc to copper ratio of 100 to 1. Ideal is 10 to 1 or 8 to 1.
Then again, what is the absorption of the "type" of Zinc and Copper in the product by Source Naturals?- Re: correction Newport
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Then again, what is the absorption of the "type" of Zinc and Copper in the product by Source Naturals?
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Believe it or not I didn't realize that until now. But I have AOR Zinc and Copper balance on the shelf as well and this one always tested better for me. At some point I tested that the copper in salt form was the reason why.
Aparently in that form the body can just ignore it and pee it out...- Re: correction #68716
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This is a reply to # 1,891,532"Oxidized copper cannot be used for this, so it is possible to be deficient in copper yet toxic with oxidized copper."
Yes, I'm aware of that. But I took so much zinc, NAC and moly and think that i'm low in both - oxidized and available copper. With my low ceruloplasmin I can't rise my copper until heal adrenals and they regulate my cerulo...
- Re: correction Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,891,543>>rise my copper until heal adrenals
You can bypass adrenals by using frequent MSM, sulfur is better anyhow. I am beginning to wonder if the adrenal function of binding an amino acid to copper isn't a last resort function. In normal organic farming the sulfur cycle is functioning and copper would not be supplied without sulfur.
Certainly explains why I had so much success with McCabe Ozone and Sulfur treatment.
SULFUR, MSM and DMSO
http://www.oxygenhealth.com/sulfur.html
As for adrenals outside of copper there are many other possible reasons for them not to function as expected.
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This is a reply to # 1,891,556I've just started MSM and it gives me a raging headache. Of course I jumped in with both feet as usual and plan to lower the dosage and continue using it.
I am totally ignorant about the merits of copper. If I wear copper my skin turns green wherever it touches. If I wear silver or gold plate over copper the copper comes through to produce the pretty green color. Any idea what that's all about?- Re: correction Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,891,668>>I've just started MSM and it gives me a raging headache
As long as you are chelating as well...
>>wear copper my skin turns green
Oxidizing.. - Re: correction just thinking
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Dr. Wright has suggested that when you have a headache from ingesting sulfur, you might need additional molybdenum to help metabolize the sulfur.
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