First month with Dorine 
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Firstly, I should say that I traveled from one very hot place to another very hot place halfway around the world from where I live. So jet lag and heat are a probably a factor in my lack of progress. Luckily, I had a cool dark room and a fairly light schedule. Believe it or not, I actually slept deeper with jet lag, but alternated Ambien and Rohypnol, and Xanax when the lag wore off and the insomnia hit again. I confess I also regularly ate outside my strict diet.
Whew, that looks ugly in writing, but feel like I can't afford to skip one night of sleep when crashing. I just arrived home two nights ago, and because I'm jet lagged again, I'm not on scripts and I'm feeling well enough to write, I'm thinking that perhaps the meds aren't worth the sleep after all. Dilemma.
Anyway here goes,
I'm having trouble tolerating my Lam protocol. Dorine started me on Liponano C, C Support, and Pandrenal all in one day, but soon switched me to a rotation soon after. Now she has me sipping a large container of water with Liponano C 1/4 -1/4, all day 1, then C Support 1-0 all day 2. I've had more aches and pains then ever before, and lots of anxiety, heart palps, and sleeplessness in spite of my usually helpful meditation practice.
She is now recommending "Liponano G" (Glutathione) for my liver because she believes I have a sluggish liver. It actually makes sense to me because I've had some success with Glutathione IV's and Immunopro (a G precursor) in the past.
However, she has asked me to lay off the Milk Thistle, lymph yoga and massages for awhile because it causes a detox, and she feels that I shouldn't stir things up for awhile. But I'M thinking that the Glutathione will stir things up considerably. I'll need to bring that up in our next consultation.
I'm confused because before I started with the Lams, (or reading this forum) I could handle large doses (including IV's) of C. Now it seems that one big sip of my water/vitamin can cause a mini crash, with neck and hip pain. I'm now down to 1/8 of Lipo C a day.
I've never had hip pain before. Why do the new vitamins cause me aches and pains? Is this Inflammation caused by the C?
Because I'm feeling OK today, and the weather a bit cooler, I'm inclined to stick with Dorine's suggestions. I hope I don't regret this decision.- Re: First month with Dorine indianagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,849,093You're describing my experience with Dr Lam's Vitamin C to a T!
I worked with them 3 months and finally threw in the towel about 2 weeks ago. I feel better since, than I did on all that C and stuff.
I figure it just wasn't right for me and there has to be a better way.
They kept telling me that I was having low clearance issues but she never suggested a sluggish liver or anything for it.
I would assume it's the same thing.
I know lots of people have had these same struggles with that program but others have not or have pushed through it and gotten well with them.
I personally just came to a conclusion based on my intuition and low quality of life with all that pain that I should try something else.
I was never nearly so inflammed before and could handle large doses of C too.
I did crash pretty bad in June and was less tolerant of it after but it seemed to continue to hold my progress back as it was just not agreeing with me.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,849,093Welcome to the club. It gives me a lot of pain to hear people coming on this forum time and again, referring to the lams and using phrases like "I used to be able to tolerate vitamin C," "I'm confused," "I don't know what to do," "I'm having trouble tolerating my Lam protocol." It makes me sick knowing innumerable people have fallen of the Lam wagon, unable to tolerate vitamin C anymore, sicker than they were before consulting the Lams, and several hundred dollars poorer for investing in them. There is no money back gaurenteee with the lams, and of course, they won't be able to return you to your prior health before you trusted them with your precious health.
Listen to your intuition. You're paying them to help improve your health, not damage it.- Re: First month with Dorine #118230
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This is a reply to # 1,849,392Thats funny if it wasn't for them I would still be crawling around the floor from severe weakness(very low cortisol). I feel that the people who cannot tolerate the liponano c have low stomach acid and need digestive enzymes or maybe clearance issues that would be helped with chlorella.
My girlfriend's daughter had adrenal fatigue so bad she called the Lam's, after about 5 months on the program she said she feels better then she ever did. Lot's of energy.- Re: First month with Dorine hope4myadrenals
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This is a reply to # 1,849,457That's funny, my message wasn't for you. I wasn't writing to people who get well off the program. Good for you, and for them. I was writing to someone who was getting worse off the program, and hope others who get worse won't stick with something that is bringing them down.
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This is a reply to # 1,849,464I was trying to explain that maybe they needed digestive enzymes for low stomach acid or chlorella to clear the toxins out of the liver.
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This is a reply to # 1,849,467It had not occured to me that it would be a digestion issue that inhibited my tolerance of the C.
Can you explain further? I definitely have digestion issues that were much better with enzymes and before my major crash.
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This is a reply to # 1,849,489I really don't think digestive issues cause the intolerance of vitamin c. Poor digestion is one of the main problems with AF because fluctuating cortisol causes this. I think depending on what stage a person is has alot to do with their tolerance. Ascorbic acid is just plain horrible for the body. There is so much research to back this up. It just is not something our bodies can use. Treating our adrenals with natural occurring substances is so much easier on our bodies. When I started taking Rose Hips for my vc and bee pollen for the B5, my body was grateful.
I have used digestive enzymes some but it isn't recomended to use alot. I have been taking bitters to assist my liver in cleansing and producing more bile to digest. Taking so many unnatural substances is the same as taking drugs. They are meant for our bodies and don't promote healing.
I do think Dr. Lam knows alot about Af but their use of synthetic crap just isn't working for the majority. At first I started doing really well with his protocol but all of a sudden I spiraled down. It was a direct link to the ascorbic acid. Again, it is unnatural for our bodies. Rose Hips are good and even better is Amla. I eat Kiwi's too because they have more vc than oranges. Just my 2 cents anyway.
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This is a reply to # 1,849,519If vitamin C (acorbic acid) was so bad, do you think the vitamin C foundation would promote it all these years?
They also promote liposomal C.
http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1
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This is a reply to # 1,849,589Why would the Vitamin C foundation promote this is a very good question. Why do alot of things get promoted? Things like drink more milk, and how we need fluoride are things we should know the truth about. Here is a very interesting post and if this isn't enough to cause you any concern with it, I can find more info.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1530791
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This is a reply to # 1,849,457Hi,
Have you really been helped by the Lams? I can't afford to make a mistake. I am so afraid to go ahead with this program because I am reading a lot of negative things. How have you continued to do with it? thanks
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This is a reply to # 1,849,093You've been through a lot. And a major move> Moving is a major stress in itself, not to mention the jetlag.
But, I hope you rally.
I've heard some people not doing well on the liponano C and some do well.
I personally will stick with my whole food vitamin C powder, which I sip on all day long.
So you once took a similar product to Immunocal.
I'm considering getting this mainly for my Zoloft withdrawal as it is supposed to help take the edge off the withdrawal symptoms and I can't handle the nausea with this, as it disrupts my blood sugars than via the adrenals... but. after 10 years on Zoloft .. it stopped working a few years ago, so I'm coming off it.
Please keep us informed on your progress and changes.
Wishing you a better day tomarrow.
Paulette
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