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indianagirl
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Hi Everyone,
I have been working with Dr. Lam for about a month and a half and have had some great progress in some areas and actually feel like I've gotten worse in other ways.
I have a good friend who also happens to be an herbalist and a psychic. She recovered fully from stage 4 AF several years ago with the help of a ND here in town.
She is recommending that I see her ND and that I do pretty much the same that Dr Lam is recommending but with less Vit c (so far it's been too much for me) and adding in ashwagandha. She feels very strongly about the ashwagandha.
I am just confused and would love some feedback if any one has any thoughts.
I do feel like I've learned a lot from Dr. Lam's asst and it got me through the woods but for the last week or 2 have felt like we are at a standstill and following her protocol has me feeling like I'm back sliding every few days at this point.
I know they are experts but my friend has special insight, and knows me very specifically.
Would it be self defeating to quit Dr Lam's program at this point?
Thanks for your help!
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I feel like I am in the same spot as you. My major symptoms which were the SEVERE anxiety attacks and heart palps are gone but I am still very not well. I have been digging in to the V C and think I may seriously slack off on that and try to move towards herbs if I can afford that. If I had a ND here to see I would give it a shot and just see what they had to say. It surely couldn't hurt to listen. Then you could decide how you feel about continuing with Lam. The more I read about the vitamins and suppliments, the more I think herbs are going to be the best thing to help the body heal itself.
I wish you the best and please let me know if you do visit the ND and what they recomend.
Peace to you. ;)
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- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,820,999I know, personally, Vitamin C causes such severe hypoglycemia and panic I can't tolerate it in even very tiny doses.
- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... omo
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This is a reply to # 1,821,006Could you link to studies or other information about vitamin C causing hypoglycemia?
I'm only finding some information on how vitamin C helps prevent hypoglycemia.
And generally the information I'm finding is that vitamin C is very important for adrenal function.- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,821,018There aren't any. I'm just relaying my experience.
If I take it I go hypoglycemic very quickly and it's actually worse for me because no matter how much I eat it doesn't raise back up for significantly longer than usual.
I think it has something to do with raising insulin levels. It's chemically very similar to glucose and actually uses the same insulin mediated uptake pathway, but that's just speculation on my part. - Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... indianagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,821,018yes, Vit c IS very important for adrenal function, I'm just thinking less for me would be better right now. Definitely too stimulating.
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Yes, that is what I find too.
But, since I am in a very severe stage of AF, and not to build up a tolerance, I take 3,000mg. of a vitamin C drink which I sip on over a period of 16 hours, and than slack off for a few days gradually, than increase again.
Vit. C is so good for sooooo many things, not just adrenal.
I also take a whole food form only of vit. C.
Paulette- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,821,099It's weird. I used to be able to handle a lot of vitamin C.
I'm not saying it isn't good for the adrenals, but whatever problem I have is not being caused by a lack of vitamin C because while I was taking higher doses my condition worsened and I was no longer able to tolerate it at a certain point.
Sorry I don't have any references on it, I just have to trust how I feel. It makes me feel awful.- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... hope4myadrenals
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This is a reply to # 1,821,136Puppetmaster, same thing happened to me. As long as I was taking modest amounts, like 1-2,000 mg a day, I was ok. When I got on the Lam program and went up to super high doses, it really messed me up. I stuck with the program for over 5 months, but it was rocky. I can't take vitamin C now without crashing. It's been half a year of no vitamin C for me. Recently, I found I can take 250 mg a day for 2 days, and then I have to go months off of it otherwise just that small amount will make me severely crash, with brain fog. I think my body has a love/hate relationship with Vitamin C... I really need it, but it is too much for me to handle.
Indianagirl, I would go with my intuition if I were you. :) If too much C makes you feel bad, ease off of it for a time and take it slow. In the meantime, it wouldn't hurt to get a second opinion with the ND.. there is wisdom in multiple opinions.- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... feo66
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Hope4myadrenals,
Here is one idea. How about trying to put just a little vitamin C in water bottle and sip on it through the day to build up a tolerance.
I got this idea from Dr Lam. He has been trying to get me to take "Adrenal Boost" for 6 months. Every time I try even one drop under my tongue, I would start getting gas and bloating that same day.
He now has me putting one drop in a water bottle every 3 days and sipping on it through the day. The idea is for your body to build up a tolerance. I've been doing this for a week and I seem to be handling it OK.
You could try the same thing with Vitamin C and see how it goes.
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- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... feo66
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This is a reply to # 1,821,443Let us know if it works. There are others here who can't take B vitamins or other supplements....even though they need them.
Might be a good approach for others having difficulty with some supplements
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This is a reply to # 1,821,006o interesting, that was one of the things that was just not getting better, even felt like it was getting worse at times...the hypoglycemia.
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This is a reply to # 1,820,9771.5 months is not very long. Considering it probably took you more than a decade to get there.
Don't let them push you too much. Sometimes the massive vitamin C is stimulating for people, but it worked great for me.
If you feel worse, then back off.
The other thing is to watch out for what Lam called the "resetting period". Where a supplement works for a while and then all of sudden makes you worse.- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... indianagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,821,037Yes the liponano makes me feel like I'm having a mini crash, even in very very diluted forms. It's scary, brain fog will come on within minutes and I will feel like I'm losing motor function and everything starts to ache, but then it wears off and I'm ok after an hour or so. Just seems like it can't be good for me.
hmmmm, what to do what to do.
I want to continue with them but also take the ashwagandha.
- Re: Thinking of jumping tracks, am I... indianagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,821,037Hey Foe, how long did you work with Dr Lam?
Where are you in the recovery process now?
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I found this info on Vitamin C very interesting.
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/vitaminC/Ascorbic-Acid-Is-Not-Vitamin-C/
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This is a reply to # 1,820,977No you not crazy, Dr Lam doesn't work for everybody. I also mega dosed on vitamin c and now I can't touch the stuff. Even though vitamin c is a supplement it can still be harmful. You even said it yourself in some areas you getting worse.
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